Speculation: Monahan forward most likely dealt first

[Junohockeyfan]

This should be the decision taken but this summer, Habs should ring him back. Right now the best interest is to cash in the way he has been playing.

I would bring him back as well but only if there was a way to trade Dvorak. The past week and a half he has been really good. Not sure if its better chemistry with his new linemates (Armia / Roy) or if he has shrugged off a nagging injury. He looks more engaged.

However i would only sign him for 1 or 2 years and for less than 3.5M. Which is unlikely.

 

[HabsAddict]

Just because he's French Canadian and Gorton was there when he was picked doesn't mean their interested. It's been a long time since any GM showed a predilection towards French players.

I couldn't care less about his name or origin, only about his play.

He still carries the 1.OA mantle but at this point he's what he plays. His current potential is 60 point 2nd line winger and to be worth and paid accordingly. He's young but he's also a bit of a signing question as to what he will sign for in a few years. Will he sign a multiple 4-5 million contract or walk himself into FA.

I would pay a 1st top 10 protected only because we have a need. Maybe a year from now if Beck and Roy show themselves as top 6 potential then that need reduces itself.

 

[HabsAddict]

I was suprised at what Monahan signed. If that was a show me contract and indeed he plays well and healthy then some GM will gift him a multiple 5 million contract.

I wouldn't mind a 4x4 but that wont be where the market will go. Given that there was negotiations but no signing, I would be suprised if he's with us next season.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Monahan had 3 points last night and his +/- was 0.

His 2 PP pts don’t count in +/- so in a 9-4 beat down he was on the ice for 1 GA, pretty damn good I’d say

 

[ole ole]

Monahan 5 years for 8 million per year?

His 2 PP pts don’t count in +/- so in a 9-4 beat down he was on the ice for 1 GA, pretty damn good I’d say

From what i have been reading his PP pts have no added value on this board.

 

[John Mandalorian]

From what i have been reading his PP pts have no added value on this board.

It’s fine. But it’s not much of a selling point if he’s not going to be on PP1 of the acquiring team.

 

[BLNY]

I couldn't care less about his name or origin, only about his play.

He still carries the 1.OA mantle but at this point he's what he plays. His current potential is 60 point 2nd line winger and to be worth and paid accordingly. He's young but he's also a bit of a signing question as to what he will sign for in a few years. Will he sign a multiple 4-5 million contract or walk himself into FA.

I would pay a 1st top 10 protected only because we have a need. Maybe a year from now if Beck and Roy show themselves as top 6 potential then that need reduces itself.

I brought up what I brought up, because we (should) all know that they're the primary reasons people try and link him to Montreal. Drouin wasn't able to manage expectations, and he had a 50 point, 20 goal, season before being acquired. I see nothing to suggest that Lafreniere would fair any better.

The first overall mantle is long gone and dusted. He doesn't give us an edge over guys within the organization I'd rather give the minutes to.

We have a need for elite offensive instincts at forward. There's nothing in Lafreniere's game to suggest that exists. When it comes to the Rangers, give me a pick(s) or prospect(s).

 

[John Mandalorian]

I brought up what I brought up, because we (should) all know that they're the primary reasons people try and link him to Montreal. Drouin wasn't able to manage expectations, and he had a 50 point, 20 goal, season before being acquired. I see nothing to suggest that Lafreniere would fair any better.

The first overall mantle is long gone and dusted. He doesn't give us an edge over guys within the organization I'd rather give the minutes to.

We have a need for elite offensive instincts at forward. There's nothing in Lafreniere's game to suggest that exists. When it comes to the Rangers, give me a pick(s) or prospect(s).

Wouldnt that describe Michkov?

 

[HuGort]

I was suprised at what Monahan signed. If that was a show me contract and indeed he plays well and healthy then some GM will gift him a multiple 5 million contract.

I wouldn't mind a 4x4 but that wont be where the market will go. Given that there was negotiations but no signing, I would be suprised if he's with us next season.

Monahan might get 4x4 but from rebuilding team seeking leadership and character. But can't see Montreal doing that.

 

[10Ducky10]

His 2 PP pts don’t count in +/- so in a 9-4 beat down he was on the ice for 1 GA, pretty damn good I’d say

Yup, you should keep him...

 

[HabsAddict]

I brought up what I brought up, because we (should) all know that they're the primary reasons people try and link him to Montreal. Drouin wasn't able to manage expectations, and he had a 50 point, 20 goal, season before being acquired. I see nothing to suggest that Lafreniere would fair any better.

The first overall mantle is long gone and dusted. He doesn't give us an edge over guys within the organization I'd rather give the minutes to.

We have a need for elite offensive instincts at forward. There's nothing in Lafreniere's game to suggest that exists. When it comes to the Rangers, give me a pick(s) or prospect(s).

Laffy may be better then the trainload of mid 6's we are growing. Beck or Roy "should" match him and maybe better but they are at least a couple of seasons away before we know for sure.

I'm not a Laffy fan but he does offer immidiate effectivnes.

Of course if we can do better with someone else, like Zegras or equivilant, I'm all in on that. Maybe Pinto.

I would put our first plus more into play for a high quality young forward.

 

[Hunter368]

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[bleuetbio]

I really don't think Hughes will be dumb enough to re-sign Sean Monahan.

He absolutely needs to trade him for the best asset he can return and there's no reason at all to resign him as a free agent.

Monahan has been our 2nd best forward overall after Suzuki. In fact, I would trade him only because he wants to play for a cup contender. I would personnaly prefer to stay with him and makes Joshua Roy a better player if we cant get a 1st rd pick.

I doubt Laf or Kakko are right pieces Habs need. They looking for 2nd line scoring, young with upside. Probably bundle a defenseman with a basket of picks type trade.

Habs set on first line. The third line pieces are generally easier to find.

Both Kakko and AL will command high prices due to their draft status. I can't see Montreal going there.

Kakko, no real interest and I think the habs are done with the Fins. It has been failure after failure for a decade except for Lehkonen.

I would take Lafreniere for sure, just to replace the size of Josh Anderson's spot on Dach line. It would help Kirby to stay healthy, but no need to talk about Lafreniere anymore, he got good numbers this year. Rangers must keep him.

I would like Gab Perreault... clearly not the best fit for us but still a good prospect

 

[HuGort]

Monahan has been our 2nd best forward overall after Suzuki. In fact, I would trade him only because he wants to play for a cup contender. I would personnaly prefer to stay with him and makes Joshua Roy a better player if we cant get a 1st rd pick.

Kakko, no real interest and I think the habs are done with the Fins. It has been failure after failure for a decade except for Lehkonen.

I would take Lafreniere for sure, just to replace the size of Josh Anderson's spot on Dach line. It would help Kirby to stay healthy, but no need to talk about Lafreniere anymore, he got good numbers this year. Rangers must keep him.

I would like Gab Perreault... clearly not the best fit for us but still a good prospect

See who we get in this upcoming draft first before we decide who to trade for. I would take the pick for now

 

[McSuper]

His 2 PP pts don’t count in +/- so in a 9-4 beat down he was on the ice for 1 GA, pretty damn good I’d say

Context matters. What lines was he playing against? I ask this as I would hope the Oilers have interest but I don't watch Montreal games at all so maybe it's not a fit.

 

[Gaud]

They are in the same mold as Newhook and Dach: young players who haven't reached their apparent potential.

I get the feeling they are looking for "late bloomers" with a good attitude. I am not in that locker room, but im not sure that's the vibe Laf is giving out.

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

trading a 23 year old RFA that'll be cost controlled for the next few years for a 29 year old UFA rental piece would be the most braindead thing in existence. Rangers aren't trading Kakko under any circumstance unless they are getting someone they plan to extend for a long time, and certainly not someone pushing 30.

In all fairness, he had been in constant regression for four years. Never moved forward and now has what? 7 points halfway through the season.


That said, I agree to pay higher price than anyone else with that production. But to talk like he’s a building block adding to their current cup window? I can’t go that far mate

 

[Gaud]

Just because he's French Canadian and Gorton was there when he was picked doesn't mean their interested. It's been a long time since any GM showed a predilection towards French players.

There was one game over 2 years ago where there wasnt a single quebecois player on the ice for montreal, and OMG that got so many journalists enflamed and outraged!

I personally think it should be the best person for the job, point final. That being said, I see a value in having hometown talent on your team and i think that you have to have the pulse of what's going on in your own back yard before anything else. Drafting is not a science, but teams like Tampa Bay have been solid in what they picked up from the LHJMQ.

Bergevin didnt seem to care much, but ill point out that the habs have RHP, Roy, Savard and Monty in the lineup, with Simoneau, Kidney (LHJMQ Maritime), Légaré, Mailet, Mailloux, Trudeau, Beaudin. Trois-Rivière has 14 players on their lineup from QC too. No real game changers here (Mailloux, Roy to some extent one day?) but more than in the last decade for sure.

 

[TS Quint]

I couldn't care less about his name or origin, only about his play.

He still carries the 1.OA mantle but at this point he's what he plays. His current potential is 60 point 2nd line winger and to be worth and paid accordingly. He's young but he's also a bit of a signing question as to what he will sign for in a few years. Will he sign a multiple 4-5 million contract or walk himself into FA.

I would pay a 1st top 10 protected only because we have a need. Maybe a year from now if Beck and Roy show themselves as top 6 potential then that need reduces itself.

If he is scoring 60 points on the Habs that’s easily a first line player for them.

From what i have been reading his PP pts have no added value on this board.

Can’t tell if this is a reading comprehension problem.

 

[Baksfamous112]

Laffy yes, Kakko no.

Kakko may be just a 40 point player.

Laffy is moving up in points slowly and MAY have a higher ceiling.

We have Beck, Mesar, Farrel, Roy, Kidney, Heinaman and Ylonen in the same category as Kakko and likely one of them in Laffy territory. Beck/Roy may even be top 6 material....hopefully.

You’re out of your mind if you think Hughes would pass on Lafreniere for Monahan just because we have « guys » like Farrel, Kidney, Heinaman and Ylonen. There’s level to this thing and those guys ain’t it.

I would send any of the guys I mentioned straight to Siberia to bring in Laf. Don’t kid yourself.

 

[samsagat]

Monahan is sheyte!

Always injured, only have pts on the PP, bad on forecheck, bad defensively, ineffective physically...

I must be myopic since this doesn't fit with what I saw from him.

Fans from other teams know better, as usual ..

 

[pth2]

Monahan is sheyte!

Always injured, only have pts on the PP, bad on forecheck, bad defensively, ineffective physically...

I must be myopic since this doesn't fit with what I saw from him.

Fans from other teams know better, as usual ..

Yup. Our eyes are lying to us.... he isn't playing a smart offensive game while being ok defensively, nor is he helping his linemates produce, nor is his PP time indicative of offensive smarts: people who've never liked him and never seem him play know better !

 

[HabsAddict]

You’re out of your mind if you think Hughes would pass on Lafreniere for Monahan just because we have « guys » like Farrel, Kidney, Heinaman and Ylonen. There’s level to this thing and those guys ain’t it.

I would send any of the guys I mentioned straight to Siberia to bring in Laf. Don’t kid yourself.

I would drive to montreal to put Monahan on the plane for Laf straight up trade....but that will never happen. So you are arguing against something that i never suggested.

What the price is likely to be is closer to a 1st but top 10 protected. That is the reason that I'm cautious about a trade for Laf. And of course weighing it against what we have now.

BTW...depending what we have on the board at draft time, yes i would make that trade. Unless of course there is a center available with at least 2C written on him.

 

[HuGort]

Monahan is sheyte!

Always injured, only have pts on the PP, bad on forecheck, bad defensively, ineffective physically...

I must be myopic since this doesn't fit with what I saw from him.

Fans from other teams know better, as usual ..

A lot of NHL GMs must disagree with you. Because every week there's a new rumour of Monahan going different city.

 

[Hunter368]

I fully expect Monahan will be traded, he will be someone's plan B or C at 2C or their plan A or B as a middle six winger/3C. What his return will actually be, I won't guess bc its hard to tell and will depend on the market, who else is available, seller/buyer market, prices and retainment or not (I assume none).