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EveryDay said:
Tell me you know nothing about him without telling me you know nothing about him......

He's getting 50% of his points on the PP like pretty much every offensive players in the NHL, it's such a stupid argument, well done.

Try to watch some hockey, you might like it.
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In the top 40 point getters in the NHL exactly 2 have gotten 50%+ of their points on the powerplay. #39 and #40, Stamkos and Marchand.
 
31 Thoughts suggested Monahan for Kakko? To me I'd say no. Kakko can't score. He's a good third liner but he's not even going to replace Monahan's 20 goals. Habs need goals. Either a first pick or a top 6 forward prospect. A second round pick better off keeping Monahan. Because once UFA traded they rarely sign back. You know Monahan gone for good and a 2nd just isn't worth it.
 
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Why is Casey Mittelstadt not being more widely discussed as a trade target?

Buffalo is out of it, or no? Theyve committed to Thompson and Cozens. And theyll havd more guys behind him needing contracts. He was over .7 PPG last year and over .8 this year. And around 2/3 of thst is 5 on 5. Hes an RFA and his current cap hit puts Monahans to shame relative to production.

This guy is a great possible option that no one is mentioning.
 
John Mandalorian said:
Why is Casey Mittelstadt not being more widely discussed as a trade target?

Buffalo is out of it, or no? Theyve committed to Thompson and Cozens. And theyll havd more guys behind him needing contracts. He was over .7 PPG last year and over .8 this year. And around 2/3 of thst is 5 on 5. Hes an RFA and his current cap hit puts Monahans to shame relative to production.

This guy is a great possible option that no one is mentioning.
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Because he is part of their future.
 
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Scintillating10 said:
31 Thoughts suggested Monahan for Kakko? To me I'd say no. Kakko can't score. He's a good third liner but he's not even going to replace Monahan's 20 goals. Habs need goals. Either a first pick or a top 6 forward prospect. A second round pick better off keeping Monahan. Because once UFA traded they rarely sign back. You know Monahan gone for good and a 2nd just isn't worth it.
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I'm more skeptical that NYR would remove a player from their lineup, rather than add to it. It's rare to see a contender move out a useful player.

That being said, I'd be all for Montreal getting Kakko for Monahan, rather than a pick/picks/prospects.

With Kakko, the ceiling justifying a very high pick doesn't seem to be getting reached, but a lot of very good 2nd and 3d liners are high picks who didn't reach their full potential. It'll just be confusing seeing people refer to him as KK since in Montreal that's meant Kotkaniemi for 6 years now.
 
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Pretty sure the Habs don't even want more picks. Kakko makes a lot of sense for the Habs, not sure how Rangers would feel about it.
 
ole ole said:
Can they not afford their 25 yr old top point getter?
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I have to assume they are planning on signing him to a long-term deal, otherwise they'd have dealt him already. He's younger than Thompson, so even with a long-term focus it would be best to keep him.
 
TheBuriedHab said:
Pretty sure the Habs don't even want more picks. Kakko makes a lot of sense for the Habs, not sure how Rangers would feel about it.
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trading a 23 year old RFA that'll be cost controlled for the next few years for a 29 year old UFA rental piece would be the most braindead thing in existence. Rangers aren't trading Kakko under any circumstance unless they are getting someone they plan to extend for a long time, and certainly not someone pushing 30.
 
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AirGut said:
trading a 23 year old RFA that'll be cost controlled for the next few years for a 29 year old UFA rental piece would be the most braindead thing in existence. Rangers aren't trading Kakko under any circumstance unless they are getting someone they plan to extend for a long time, and certainly not someone pushing 30.
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A 4 point bust isn't even a desirable return so there's no worry there.
 
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Scintillating10 said:
31 Thoughts suggested Monahan for Kakko? To me I'd say no. Kakko can't score. He's a good third liner but he's not even going to replace Monahan's 20 goals. Habs need goals. Either a first pick or a top 6 forward prospect. A second round pick better off keeping Monahan. Because once UFA traded they rarely sign back. You know Monahan gone for good and a 2nd just isn't worth it.
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I would happily trade Monahan for a 2nd and I would be thrilled to trade him for Kakko. That would be an outstanding return and that would mean the Canadiens would receive a 1st round draft pick plus Kakko in exchange for paying Monahan for a about 85 games.

To be able to turn some cap space into a 1st round pick and Kaapo Kakko works for me.
 
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FerrisRox said:
I would happily trade Monahan for a 2nd and I would be thrilled to trade him for Kakko. That would be an outstanding return and that would mean the Canadiens would receive a 1st round draft pick plus Kakko in exchange for paying Monahan for a about 85 games.

To be able to turn some cap space into a 1st round pick and Kaapo Kakko works for me.
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I would of thrown in Monahan and a 2nd for Laffy but now, he seems to have improved. Which of course would raise his value far higher then simple numbers.

We still need Monahan given that we don't know how Dach will be after his surgeries. He may be far more valuable to us for the next few years then whatever Kakko may bring.
 
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HabsAddict said:
I would of thrown in Monahan and a 2nd for Laffy but now, he seems to have improved. Which of course would raise his value far higher then simple numbers.

We still need Monahan given that we don't know how Dach will be after his surgeries. He may be far more valuable to us for the next few years then whatever Kakko may bring.
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I will be extremely disappointed if this management doesn't move Monahan for whatever the best option is. Holding on to him would be idiotic.
 
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FerrisRox said:
I will be extremely disappointed if this management doesn't move Monahan for whatever the best option is. Holding on to him would be idiotic.
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On paper, of course we want a return for Monahan.

But...

If our next year centers are Suzuki, Evans, Newhook and thin air, season is done.

The injury to Dach is still an issue until proven otherwise. If he shakes it off and a full 2C, great, but if not, we are in a heap of trouble at center. So THAT is the only reason I want to keep Monaham.

Losing a season for a second is not a smart move.
 
HabsAddict said:
I would of thrown in Monahan and a 2nd for Laffy but now, he seems to have improved. Which of course would raise his value far higher then simple numbers.

We still need Monahan given that we don't know how Dach will be after his surgeries. He may be far more valuable to us for the next few years then whatever Kakko may bring.
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Look who Laf playing with though? Still only on pace for 50 points with a minus 16.
 
AirGut said:
>points are everything in this league
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Kakko isn't good enough defensively to have the offensive numbers he has. He's literally a younger Joel Armia with worse offensive and defensive capabilities. A useful fourth liner but not a key piece in any trade that isn't a swap of potential.
 
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Scintillating10 said:
Look who Laf playing with though? Still only on pace for 50 points with a minus 16.
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Laffy is the drafting lesson of a player who has all the tools as a junior and a huge point getter but can't elevate to that in the NHL.

I see him as a 50 point winger max but hardly a star or elite. 2nd line top 6 with good linemates.

Slafy is going to be better then him but not by much.
 
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