Value of: Monahan and Savard to Jersey

[Wayfarer13]

Now on pace for 22 goals and 58 points. Will cost a team less than a mil on the cap if retained at 50 percent. Thoughts?

Got it wrong. At moment the cost is less than a million which drops everyday if the team obtaining him has cap space. Now if I have it right if the team is in the LTIR situation the full contract is applied to that. One hell of a deal. No need for retention.

 

[Guess]

Except he's never had good advanced numbers despite playing with some very good players in the past.

You mean preinjury with Flames (2019 and earlier)? If so then I have no rebuttal, but he looks good in the eye test

 

[Trabdy2]

Except he's never had good advanced numbers despite playing with some very good players in the past.

Teams have paid 1st round picks for players with poor underlying numbers in the past. It would not be the first time, nor the last. It's just not a sure thing that it will happen.

 

[Hisch13r]

Nah we suck we shouldn’t be adding. Also Savard is god f***ing awful so I wouldn’t want him anyway

 

[Wayfarer13]

Thoughts? Good luck getting a first. I hope my team doesn't give one up for him. His underlying numbers are horrible and one game doesn't change that.

Signed, the fans of the 31 other teams in the NHL.

But hey, Hughes gets what he wants. That's why the Habs got a first for Petry and a first for Edmundson and the Dach and Newhook deals have been raging successes <3

Got a first for Chairot and Matheson is doing quite fine. Edmundson? Well injuries are injuries but his return was much more than the boards predicted in the end. Little early to write off Dach and Newhook but then again street cred in here is declaring someone a bust on a small sample size.

 

[Trabdy2]

Nah we suck we shouldn’t be adding. Also Savard is god f***ing awful so I wouldn’t want him anyway

What's crazy is Savard returned a 1st and a 3rd at the TDL 3 years ago, and he wasn't that different a player today than he was then. Players who aren't that good can sometimes return big because of the market.

 

[Jack Spider]

Savard + Monahan + 2nd + 2nd for Hughes

 

[Bone Density]

Matheson would fit the Devils system well, but the extra term seems like a no-go, although the cap hit is very reasonable. We also need more of a defense first type.

 

[LesCanadiens]

you're right if you totally ignore the last five years of their careers prior to this one they're exactly the same

Guess you've never heard of a playoff rental or their typical cost. Your posts are not going to age well if and when a deal is done. That's when I expect we'll never again see you in any Monahan trade thread. And that will be a great day.

 

[LesCanadiens]

Matheson would fit the Devils system well, but the extra term seems like a no-go, although the cap hit is very reasonable. We also need more of a defense first type.

He'll give you nightmares.

 

[Trabdy2]

Thoughts? Good luck getting a first. I hope my team doesn't give one up for him. His underlying numbers are horrible and one game doesn't change that.

Signed, the fans of the 31 other teams in the NHL.

But hey, Hughes gets what he wants. That's why the Habs got a first for Petry and a first for Edmundson and the Dach and Newhook deals have been raging successes <3

Oilers gave up a 2nd and 7th at the TDL for Kulak, whose numbers of any kind were not very good, period. It's almost like teams pay a lot for mediocre players pretty regularly at the TDL.

 

[Bone Density]

He'll give you nightmares.

Shame. Dude can skate like the wind, but I guess that's about it lol.

 

[LesCanadiens]

Shame. Dude can skate like the wind, but I guess that's about it lol.

He's skittish. When he reaaaaally tries hard to play it safe. He's a force to be reckoned with. Like today, he was excellent all 200ft. But it's usually not the case and he produces more turnovers than 10 bakeries.

 

[Miller Time]

Shame. Dude can skate like the wind, but I guess that's about it lol.

Nah... He's actually pretty good all around. Just a bit shaky at times when he tries to do too much.

If he's your #2 next to an elite #1d, or leading the 2nd pair, I think he'd be viewed more favorably... Not unlike Shea Theodore in Vegas.

20-22min/night, he'd be awesome. It's that the Habs have him playing 25+, in all situations, and the Savard is the only other dman with more than a season of experience on the Habs Blueline.

Doubt Hughes would move him for anything short of a massive overpayment. Outside of the truly elite #1D men out there, not sure many vet dmen would handle the roll he's been asked to play as well as he has

 

[Bone Density]

Nah... He's actually pretty good all around. Just a bit shaky at times when he tries to do too much.

If he's your #2 next to an elite #1d, or leading the 2nd pair, I think he'd be viewed more favorably... Not unlike Shea Theodore in Vegas.

20-22min/night, he'd be awesome. It's that the Habs have him playing 25+, in all situations, and the Savard is the only other dman with more than a season of experience on the Habs Blueline.

Doubt Hughes would move him for anything short of a massive overpayment. Outside of the truly elite #1D men out there, not sure many vet dmen would handle the roll he's been asked to play as well as he has

Agree he does a lot better in a smaller role. Because he's being relied upon so much, he's probably more valuable to the Habs right now. I do like him a lot though. That goal he scored against us earlier in the year was a beauty. Cut through our entire team.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Got a first for Chairot and Matheson is doing quite fine. Edmundson? Well injuries are injuries but his return was much more than the boards predicted in the end. Little early to write off Dach and Newhook but then again street cred in here is declaring someone a bust on a small sample size.

And how did the team that paid a first for Chiarot feel about that purchase?

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

It took a couple more injuries on top of Hamilton for Foote to get into the lineup. As mentioned, Colin Miller was back at practice today. Hopefully Hughes isn't too far out after the All Star break. Monahan doesn't exactly fill the bottom six spot that we'd be looking for. Once Hughes is back, Hughes-Hischier-Haula-Lazar would probably be set down the middle, maybe mix in Tierney/Nosek.

..hold up. The plan is for Colin Miller to be engaged and good? Man.. good luck, I mean that sincerely.

 

[Brodeur]

..hold up. The plan is for Colin Miller to be engaged and good? Man.. good luck, I mean that sincerely.

Didn't say that exactly.......OP implied that we needed to trade for a D to replace Foote whereas Miller was already slotted as the filler 3rd pairing D.

 

[Guy Larose]

Devil's fans don't have to worry, Monahan has a deal with KH to pick his team out of the ones interested, so he wouldn't go to a shit team like NJ anyway. He wants a contender.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Devil's fans don't have to worry, Monahan has a deal with KH to pick his team out of the ones interested, so he wouldn't go to a shit team like NJ anyway. He wants a contender.

Good.

 

[TBF1972]

Savard + Monahan + 2nd + 2nd for Hughes

for sure

does slafy now has a burner account?

 

[Wayfarer13]

And how did the team that paid a first for Chiarot feel about that purchase?

They lost a bet

 

[Wayfarer13]

i offer nothing for two players, who are most likely on the irl, when the playoffs start.

Why are you wasting thread space and the reader's time posting on this thread?Nothing useful to add to the conversation.

 

[HuGort]

Monahan has better numbers than Lindholm

 

[ole ole]

Nah we suck we shouldn’t be adding. Also Savard is god f***ing awful so I wouldn’t want him anyway

You got 2 things right your team does suck and shouldn't be adding this season.

And how did the team that paid a first for Chiarot feel about that purchase?

And that has what to do with anything in this thread? Keep reaching like you usually do.