OT: MLB Thread XLVII

[Maximus]

If Bauer is legitimately looking for 5-6 years at $35-$40 million, my reluctance becomes a f***ing hard pass. That's crazy money for someone with two elite seasons and five decent seasons. I don't care how much money Cohen has, that's the type of deal that starts to hamstring you down the road with respect to the cap.

Listen, I've been probably the biggest proponent here on this board of us getting Bauer, but if these #'s are true and he wants up to $40 mill per, I'm likely, ready for this, jumping off the Bauer train and will settle for us bringing in an Odorizzi type or even a John Lester as we could use a lefty in the rotation seeing Matz is likely not going to be part of it.

In my mind and priority numero uno is and if we are going to pay the big bucks out, is let's get George Springer here. We do that, everything else is just gravy. But yes a hard no as well if Bauer is going to command that much cash for that term.

Now one caveat tho, if we could get Bauer on a one year $30 mill type deal, I'd definitely consider that as in I'd likely for sure do it. But no way in hell for 5-6 years at 35-40 mill.

 

[Leetch3]

can't fault him for asking but if anyone gives bauer that kind of $$ they are insane...he's had 1 great season but he doesn't have the track record to warrant that.

another thing to keep in mind about bauer is that a few years ago he talked about how easy it was to cheat to increase your spin rate. i think he was calling out the astros and cole...then went out basically told people he was doing it and increased his spin rate by a ridiculous amount for 1 inning. then last year in only 11 games his spin rate was the same as that 1 inning. So what are the chances that he suddenly became really good vs he was just cheating again in a shortened season and then will get his $$ go back to not cheating and have a 5+ era.

and that doesn't even get into how much of a PITA he is.

 

[romba]

I don't care how much money Cohen has, that's the type of deal that starts to hamstring you down the road with respect to the cap.

I think many Mets fans, like the wise ass who told Steve Cohen FAs only cost $, were hoping the team would blow through the luxury tax like an addict and their stimulus checks.

The reality is that no one wants to pay the luxury taxes, even (especially) the billionaires, so the Mets need to be smart with the deals hand out. Once the Mets are right on the doorstep to win they'll be more willing/tempted to give that giant contract and go over the threshold, as long as they can almost guarantee a WS or two. The problem is that the Mets Ace of Aces ain't getting any younger.

 

[Leetch3]

I think many Mets fans, like the wise ass who told Steve Cohen FAs only cost $, were hoping the team would blow through the luxury tax like an addict and their stimulus checks.

The reality is that no one wants to pay the luxury taxes, even (especially) the billionaires, so the Mets need to be smart with the deals handed out. Once the Mets are right on the doorstep to win they'll be more willing/tempted to give that giant contract and go over the threshold, as long as they can almost guarantee a WS or two. The problem is that the Mets Ace of Aces ain't getting any younger.

i personally have loved cohen's approach/mindset of wanting to build the team the right way...the idea that he would spend like a drunken sailor cause he's old and doesn't want to wait is only good if you win. but it is not a smart long term strategy...doing things the right way might take a minute but long term it will pay off. the place that met fans should be hoping he spends crazy $$ is on the front office, scouting staff, player development etc AND the international free agent market. THAT is where the big $$ teams truly flex their financial power, loading up their farm system with talent that doesn't need to go thru the draft. those kids get signed at like 16 so the more guys you can sign the better the odds that a few will pan out in a few years...

plus you also have to weigh the caliber of the players involved...jt realmuto is probably the best catcher in baseball so you could argue that he would be worth paying. but fans act like every free agent available is mike trout or degrom and we should throw piles and piles of $$ at them just cause we can.

 

[romba]

i personally have loved cohen's approach/mindset of wanting to build the team the right way...the idea that he would spend like a drunken sailor cause he's old and doesn't want to wait is only good if you win. but it is not a smart long term strategy...doing things the right way might take a minute but long term it will pay off. the place that met fans should be hoping he spends crazy $$ is on the front office, scouting staff, player development etc AND the international free agent market. THAT is where the big $$ teams truly flex their financial power, loading up their farm system with talent that doesn't need to go thru the draft. those kids get signed at like 16 so the more guys you can sign the better the odds that a few will pan out in a few years...

plus you also have to weigh the caliber of the players involved...jt realmuto is probably the best catcher in baseball so you could argue that he would be worth paying. but fans act like every free agent available is mike trout or degrom and we should throw piles and piles of $$ at them just cause we can.

I think Steve Cohen's sly comment complimenting the Padres strong farm system giving them flexibility, tells you what you need to know about the front office and development staff he's investing in. Mets seem in good hands.

Trades might cost more in terms of total assets and it's hard to part with those assets (see: Prospect Hugging Crosstown Rivals), but they also net you years of stars at a cheap price, further avoiding those pesky taxes that star caliber FAs come with.

 

[East Coast Bias]

Fwiw, Jon Heyman reported that and Bauer himself responded calling it bullshit.

who really knows whst he’s asking for.

 

[nyr2k2]

Fwiw, Jon Heyman reported that and Bauer himself responded calling it bullshit.

who really knows whst he’s asking for.

I would definitely expect Bauer and his agent to shoot it down, or shoot anything down. Having his asking price out there isn't to his benefit. I also have no doubt he asked for that--he's Trevor Bauer--bit probably doesn't actually expect to get it.

As you said, though, who knows.

 

[SA16]

Bauer is obviously not getting 35-40M when Gerrit Cole, the better pitcher, got 36M last year (for 9 years) in a much better economic market.

 

[Leetch3]

 

[Bob Richards]

LMFAO oh shit

 

[JimmyG89]

 

[NYR94]

Finally something big happening with the Mets. (I hope)

 

[NYSPORTS]

will Carlos Baegra be in the deal too?

 

[nyr2k2]

No qualms about giving up Gimenez. Need to see the whole deal. Exciting stuff.

 

[nyr2k2]

Isaiah Greene and Josh Wolff are two other pieces. If it's just the three of them I love it.

 

[NYR94]

Cleveland was interested in Greene at the draft.

 

[JimmyG89]

 

[nyr2k2]

Mets have surplus SS and a good one in the pipeline.

Greene and Wolf are nice prospects but not blue chippers.

I f***ing love it. Get another starter, sign Hand, and let's go.

 

[NYR94]

Wow Rosario too. I guess if the Mets kept him he would have had to play OF or they'd move him in another deal.

 

[East Coast Bias]

Wow.

 

[JimmyG89]

Mets have surplus SS and a good one in the pipeline.

Greene and Wolf are nice prospects but not blue chippers.

I f***ing love it. Get another starter, sign Hand, and let's go.

They need to get a centerfielder too. Hand is the ideal pitcher for the bullpen and they already said they are interested. They do need a #4/5 starter to go in an hold down a spot before Syndergaard comes back.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I need the Kermit the frog gif.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Not a baseball fan, but this sounds like a big deal. Congrats, Mets fans.

 

[NYSPORTS]

They need to get a centerfielder too. Hand is the ideal pitcher for the bullpen and they already said they are interested. They do need a #4/5 starter to go in an hold down a spot before Syndergaard comes back.

i think they'll get Springer.

DeGrom, ?, Stroman, Carrasco, Matz

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

That’s a big boy move.

Rosario sucks.