OT: MLB Thread XLI: Dog Days

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I agree, you could tell by the moves they got to acquire Cano and sign Lowrie that they weren't 100% sold on McNeil and Alonso coming into this season, and to a lesser extent, Rosario. Especially with Lowrie, he was going to be an everyday utility player, playing 3rd, short and 2nd depending on whether the kids played well or someone needed a day off, etc. Turns out all three of those young players have been excellent and guys you want in the lineup every day. I especially remember all the fretting over Alonso's defensive ability during the winter and spring training, and even though people around the Mets talked about he's undeniable hitting talent, they always seemed to be too hung up on the fielding. He's no Keith Hernandez but their evaluations of their own players honestly are a cause for concern. They weren't confident about these guys in the beginning to really commit to them. Plus they have guys in their organization who are talented hitters but don't seem to have a position with the team anymore because there's no DH (yet) in the NL. JD Davis can hit but isn't a good or even average left fielder. Dom Smith hit this year but he's a first baseman and that's Alonso's job now, and Smith didn't look too good in left field either.
I agree, I mean for years on end this has been going on. Developing and grooming is one thing, KNOWING whether a player is a cant miss or not, is another. In the past, if not anything else.....they've over valued players that never panned out, and undervalued some that went on to be really good players/pitchers.
The only can't misses I remember were Straw, José and D dubbs.
 
Was at Ranger Flyer game tonight and so didn't watch the game and only heard the result on way home. So 4.5 out with 8 to go seems to me to be...yes I see her...that lady with the big pipes is heading to the stage and about to take the microphone.

The fact that it's the 22nd of September and the Metropolitans are even breathing is a credit to the heart, soul and resiliency of this team that was dead and buried about two months ago. Hell of a fun ride it's been these past two months and I enjoyed spending alot it with my Ranger brothers in here who share the same "fate" as I do and are Met fans...lol

I anticipate that with the solid core we got, the solid SP and the hopeful addition of Cespedes and Lowri bats, if Brodie can fix the damn bullpen, we should be right back in the mix next year and it should be some more fun next August and September....here's to hoping!
 
With that roster Mets should be in the postseason. Especially in a weaker NL.
 
Nice to get your eulogy while still alive lol good for CC. His kids were super pumped about the Japan vaca too
 
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10-0 with a 2.25 ERA since early August... literally the opposite of what transpired the first half of the season

He's healthy and actually trusts his knee right now.

...and Sevie doing Sevie things. He may be the main key to the Yanks postseason fortunes.

Throwing an effective Paxton and Sevie in Gms 1 and 2 followed by the wildcard that is Tanaka. Punchers chance.
 
With that roster Mets should be in the postseason. Especially in a weaker NL.

All they needed was an avarege bullpen this year. Couldn't do it. Came in at bottom 5.

Nats, Braves and Dodgers are all good teams. Brewers are a bad playoff team - their staff is bad.
 
Can't dig holes each season and get into the playoffs. Simple as that. June the last two seasons sunk the team. Last year was way worse than this one, but a 10-18 June keeps teams out of the playoffs.

40-50 before the ASB. 41-24 since that point.

The season was lost in June and that's something this organization needs to figure out. It's not just one year where it was bad, it's two years in a row where June essentially ended their season.

Figuring out a way to be .500 at the ASB would have put this team right in it for this final week. The 6 losses against the Cubs and Braves masks the team's performance over the first 90 games. Can't have bad months and get in. A bad week could set a team back, but a whole month is a death sentence.
 
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on the mets shit the bed against the marlins...who saw that coming? oh thats right everyone

tragic number is now 1 i think
 
on the mets **** the bed against the marlins...who saw that coming? oh thats right everyone

tragic number is now 1 i think

As a longtime Met fan, I take the fact that they made the final 2 months fun and interesting as a positive. Seeing we don't make playoffs much, that's about all we can really take from this year. For first time in seemingly forever we had important games to look forward too in August and most of September. I think we can build upon this...I do.

Brodie needs to address the bullpen in the worst way and if he succeeds, we'll be in the mix as I've said over and over next year.

Is it dissapointing that we sucked for the first 4 months of the season? Absolutaly...it was as pissed as I can recall as there were some high hopes entering the year. Is there hope for next year and going forward? No doubt but Brodie needs to make the right moves in the offseason.

Been fun gents...now it's time for the Rangers to hopefully soften the blow!
 
Kind of reminds me of the 05 Mets a little bit. Young guys improving and having some vets around to help. Unexpected performances from some younger guys. Leaky bullpen.

Fix the pen and this is a playoff team, possibly one that could contend for the East with Atlanta.

Get healthy this offseason and come back with one of the deepest lineups I've ever seen the Mets have. Going to have legit starting caliber players on the bench.

C: Ramos
IF: Alonso, Cano, Rosario, Lowrie
OF: Conforto, Nimmo, Cespedes
UTIL: McNeil, Davis, Smith (just means they can play OF and IF)

Backup catcher and defensive OF might be the only needs for this team. Nido isn't the guy for me, but will likely be the backup.

They have some MLB level pieces for trade if they are looking to swing a big trade. Depends on what BVW wants moving forward, but there is enough here that with a real bullpen that this squad could win 90+
 
Kind of reminds me of the 05 Mets a little bit. Young guys improving and having some vets around to help. Unexpected performances from some younger guys. Leaky bullpen.

Fix the pen and this is a playoff team, possibly one that could contend for the East with Atlanta.

Get healthy this offseason and come back with one of the deepest lineups I've ever seen the Mets have. Going to have legit starting caliber players on the bench.

C: Ramos
IF: Alonso, Cano, Rosario, Lowrie
OF: Conforto, Nimmo, Cespedes
UTIL: McNeil, Davis, Smith (just means they can play OF and IF)

Backup catcher and defensive OF might be the only needs for this team. Nido isn't the guy for me, but will likely be the backup.

They have some MLB level pieces for trade if they are looking to swing a big trade. Depends on what BVW wants moving forward, but there is enough here that with a real bullpen that this squad could win 90+
I'd be very happy not seeing Smith or Davis in the OF again.
 
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I'd be very happy not seeing Smith or Davis in the OF again.

If the NL added the DH, we'd be rolling in options to put there. Only time I think we could have ever said that. I'm used to them having to DH some random players that cannot hit.

Agreed with both in the OF, but there are no other spots, except for Davis at 3rd. Hope he works on it this offseason. Won't have Frazier playing over him there.
 
If the NL added the DH, we'd be rolling in options to put there. Only time I think we could have ever said that. I'm used to them having to DH some random players that cannot hit.

Agreed with both in the OF, but there are no other spots, except for Davis at 3rd. Hope he works on it this offseason. Won't have Frazier playing over him there.
Is Frazier signed for next season?

I wouldn't be surprised to see Dom Smith traded.
 
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