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BMOK33 said:
I wouldn’t be so sure the Nats are uncatchable with their schedule. The Mets need to hope the Cards cool off a bit so that the division is still in reach when the Cubs play them 7 games late. I’m not sure how Atlanta will handle that series late in New York. If it matters for the Mets the Braves find themselves in that awkward position of if we let them in and 2 weeks from now they beat us in the LCS we’ll never live it down
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I'd love nothing more than your scenario to pan out seeing that would mean the Mets played great these final 3 weeks to be in the WC game.

On a related note, hate when injuries happen to anyone but especially to great players. Christian Yelich is out for the year after fouling a pitch off his knee cap. Huge blow for the Brew Crew. Sucks so bad as when I saw the highlight of it didn't look like it was a season ender but just a game ender.
 
Maximus said:
I was so afraid that that play by Pete was going to end up costing the Mets...I really did. But we held on to win a pretty big game. Either this is the slowest death for a team on record or maybe we still have one final push left in us.

You have to think at the very least to even have an iota of a shot to get the WC, with 18 games left, we'd have to be no worse than 2 games out by the time we play those 4 vs Miami and the 3 vs the Braves to end the season. We gotta hope the Brewers,Phillies, DBacks and Cubs continue to play around .500 ball while we go something like 13-5...14-4 something along those lines.

As of right this second Fangraphs has the odds at this and it don't look pretty:

Cubs-65.7
Brewers-27.6
Mets-10.5
DBacks-4.9
Phillies-3.6
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It "doesn't", but since when is "pretty" ever associated with the Mets? Oh yeah, maybe Lee Mazzilli. Lmao.
 
Yeah, pretty unhappy about Yelich. Saw much of him when on Marlins and has absolutely blossomed into quite the great player. You could see it years ago, he would be like this. Just knew it. Yeah, sucks for Brewers would be like losing Alonso. I suppose that bodes well for Mets, but sucks nonetheless.
 
As for our Metsies, yeah man.....blew that series win vs Phillies. Woulda, coulda......shoulda. Would be atypical of Mets to somehow sweep a pretty good road team in Arizona. Thus far, our pitching has been outstanding against quite the formidable offensive team.

Need these next 2 wins to really make a dent. LFGM!
 
The Mets have more wins vs the Nats than any other team. But if the season comes down to a tiebreaker, they would have to face the DBacks to get home field.
 
Larrybiv said:
Yeah, pretty unhappy about Yelich. Saw much of him when on Marlins and has absolutely blossomed into quite the great player. You could see it years ago, he would be like this. Just knew it. Yeah, sucks for Brewers would be like losing Alonso. I suppose that bodes well for Mets, but sucks nonetheless.
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Unfortunately Brian Cashman didn't see it. He decided to trade for that stiff Stanton instead.
 
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Regardless of the splits with Thor/Ramos/Nido, u keep this crap "in house". Whoever let this out should be fired. If it was Thor, well then.......maybe he needs to go. You do NOT make this public. Just go out and pitch......ultimately its Thor making or NOT making his pitches.

A ball here or there that Nido coddles for a strike, where Ramos doesn't.......doesn't make up for the DIFFERENCE in the kind of hitter Ramos is in comparison to Nido. Sorry Thor, you are NOT being a team player. Even deGrom backed off of initial issue with Ramos and look at how he is pitching. He is a PRO, and Thor is acting lime a spoiled rotten child. Grow up and pitch better. Make your pitches and stop looking for a scapegoat.
Ramos doesnt deserve that. Earlier in the season, Ramos looked like the WORST catcher ever, and believe me I was on him for all those passed balls and nary a runner thrown out. Not the case lately, he has improved there and his deficiencies as catcher are surpassed by his play in the box. My take.
 
If Rosie continues and I know its nearly impossible but the Mets could conceivably have 4 .300 hitters in the lineup.
Ramos, McNeil, Davis and Rosie.

2 guys combining for over 80 homers......Alonso and Conforto.
Those are some hefty numbers, and not seen anywhere since 1986/87. Imagine if Cano had a Cano type season and imagine if Cespedes wasn't a golfer in a baseball players body.
 
BMOK33 said:
I wouldn’t be so sure the Nats are uncatchable with their schedule. The Mets need to hope the Cards cool off a bit so that the division is still in reach when the Cubs play them 7 games late. I’m not sure how Atlanta will handle that series late in New York. If it matters for the Mets the Braves find themselves in that awkward position of if we let them in and 2 weeks from now they beat us in the LCS we’ll never live it down
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I don't think either of those teams is going to look to slow down, even if things are in hand. The Braves are creeping up on the Dodgers for best record. While it's not huge motivation, having those games at home is ideal. You have to think they'll get a push if within 1 or 2 games in that last series.

Same for the Cardinals. I don't think they're plan is to slow down either and while they may not have much to play for the last series, nothing would make them feel better than knocking the Cubs out of it. It's been one sided very recently and I'm sure the players and coaches would want to take them out.

Otherwise, two MVP caliber players down in the last week? Then, Baez replacement gets hurt. Huge blows to the Brewers and Cubs. They do have other stars, but these are the best players on their squads. No an easy push when you are missing your best. One Cubs loss last night bumped them up 3% in the WC projections.

Next 36 hours will let us know where the Mets stand going into the last series in this tough stretch. Need to split the games minimum, but sweeping them out of NY would make the Dodgers series less of a necessity to take 2 of 3 from LA. Dodgers will be coming off a series in Baltimore, where you'd think they'll get fat on the Orioles. We've been saying it for a while, that if after this Dodgers series, if they could be around 2 games back, there is a run to be had at it.

Also agree the Nationals aren't out of the water yet. One more with Minny, followed up by Atlanta wanting to kill off the division, at St. Louis attempting to do the same, to Miami which is a team they have handled, then 8 at home vs Philly and Cleveland, two more team battling for spots.
 
LeetchisGod said:
Unfortunately Brian Cashman didn't see it. He decided to trade for that stiff Stanton instead.
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True, but to be fair.......Stanton as beastly as he is......has had numerous other injuries prior to the Yankees. Including getting plunked in the face. I am sure they weighed everything. Maybe needed his RH bat or didnt think Yelich was "that good". I would have went with Yelich, but thats easy to say NOW.....right?
 
Larrybiv said:
True, but to be fair.......Stanton as beastly as he is......has had numerous other injuries prior to the Yankees. Including getting plunked in the face. I am sure they weighed everything. Maybe needed his RH bat or didnt think Yelich was "that good". I would have went with Yelich, but thats easy to say NOW.....right?
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Stanton is a one dimensional RH power hitter. Something that the Yankees already have in abundance. He was an unnecessary acquisition. Not to mention that his salary is preventing the team from improving in other areas. Bringing a quality left handed hitter like Yelich to Yankee Stadium should have been a no brainer.
 
JimmyG89 said:
I don't think either of those teams is going to look to slow down, even if things are in hand. The Braves are creeping up on the Dodgers for best record. While it's not huge motivation, having those games at home is ideal. You have to think they'll get a push if within 1 or 2 games in that last series.

Same for the Cardinals. I don't think they're plan is to slow down either and while they may not have much to play for the last series, nothing would make them feel better than knocking the Cubs out of it. It's been one sided very recently and I'm sure the players and coaches would want to take them out.

Otherwise, two MVP caliber players down in the last week? Then, Baez replacement gets hurt. Huge blows to the Brewers and Cubs. They do have other stars, but these are the best players on their squads. No an easy push when you are missing your best. One Cubs loss last night bumped them up 3% in the WC projections.

Next 36 hours will let us know where the Mets stand going into the last series in this tough stretch. Need to split the games minimum, but sweeping them out of NY would make the Dodgers series less of a necessity to take 2 of 3 from LA. Dodgers will be coming off a series in Baltimore, where you'd think they'll get fat on the Orioles. We've been saying it for a while, that if after this Dodgers series, if they could be around 2 games back, there is a run to be had at it.

Also agree the Nationals aren't out of the water yet. One more with Minny, followed up by Atlanta wanting to kill off the division, at St. Louis attempting to do the same, to Miami which is a team they have handled, then 8 at home vs Philly and Cleveland, two more team battling for spots.
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The general rule is never chase a potential for home field the last series of the year if that’s all you have to play for. It’s another story if your opponent for the first round is set and you are fighting to get home field but never do you step on the gas and try to win a series to get the best record in your league or in all of MLB on the potential you MIGHT face a certain team in the NLCS or WS. If that team never gets there and your starter ends up hurt because he threw 110 pitches when he only needed to throw 65 you really effed up
 
BMOK33 said:
I wouldn’t be so sure the Nats are uncatchable with their schedule. The Mets need to hope the Cards cool off a bit so that the division is still in reach when the Cubs play them 7 games late. I’m not sure how Atlanta will handle that series late in New York. If it matters for the Mets the Braves find themselves in that awkward position of if we let them in and 2 weeks from now they beat us in the LCS we’ll never live it down
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I dunno...5.5 behind Nats even if they have a tough schedule is a bit too daunting a task with just 18 to go. Not impossible but highly improbable. I still contend our best chance is if Cards keep winning and fully break away from Cubs and beat them to a pulp if possible in those 7 games they play vs one another.

I just want to deal with one of them and IMO Cubs are much more vulnerable and with us 3 behind them, that’s the ticket for the Mets. Braves will have something to play for I have a feeling those last 3 games of season I’m afraid too say.

Funny but this is still possible. Every time I say that’s it the Mets are done for real this time like after that sickening loss to the Nationals and this past Sunday vs Phillies, the team than starts to win games again while our main competition continue to be inconsistent and can’t put the nail in our coffin as we are still alive and breathing.

Well we got the August and September with important games that we wanted. Going to be real interesting to see if we can get this down to a manageable 1-2 games by time of our last home stand of the year vs Marlins and Braves.
 
LeetchisGod said:
Stanton is a one dimensional RH power hitter. Something that the Yankees already have in abundance. He was an unnecessary acquisition. Not to mention that his salary is preventing the team from improving in other areas. Bringing a quality left handed hitter like Yelich to Yankee Stadium should have been a no brainer.
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No one knew Yelich would turn out to be THIS good. Easy to say so now. Stanton may be hurt most of this year, but for the most part, he's been good when he's played. The book isn't closed on him yet.

And this is coming from someone that did consider getting Yelich instead of Stanton, but understood why that didn't happen.
 
I wanted Yelich but Stanton was coming off of a 59 homer season.

Dude is anything but one dimensional as a hitter too.

Also for the gazillionth time, they’ve loaded with right handed bats for a reason
 
Rangerfan4life90 said:
No one knew Yelich would turn out to be THIS good. Easy to say so now. Stanton may be hurt most of this year, but for the most part, he's been good when he's played. The book isn't closed on him yet.

And this is coming from someone that did consider getting Yelich instead of Stanton, but understood why that didn't happen.
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I'm not closing the book but Stanton's tenure as a Yankee has been a failure so far. He was mediocre last year and non-existent this year. He has a lot of catching up to do. He's also pushing 30. I don't expect him to get less injury prone as he ages.
 
LeetchisGod said:
I'm not closing the book but Stanton's tenure as a Yankee has been a failure so far. He was mediocre last year and non-existent this year. He has a lot of catching up to do. He's also pushing 30. I don't expect him to get less injury prone as he ages.
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I don't consider a near 40 home run season with 100 rbis and almost .270 batting average to be mediocre, especially when it was also his first season a Yankee. This year is obviously non-existent, but in the 9 games he has played, has looked very good. I think he might have proven some people wrong this year, but alas, wasn't meant to be.
 
Rangerfan4life90 said:
I don't consider a near 40 home run season with 100 rbis and almost .270 batting average to be mediocre, especially when it was also his first season a Yankee. This year is obviously non-existent, but in the 9 games he has played, has looked very good. I think he might have proven some people wrong this year, but alas, wasn't meant to be.
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Regular season numbers dont matter much.If he wants to prove people wrong,hes going to have to come through when it matters most-the playoffs.He isnt being paid a gajillion dollars to lay eggs in the postseason
 
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Rangerfan4life90 said:
I don't consider a near 40 home run season with 100 rbis and almost .270 batting average to be mediocre, especially when it was also his first season a Yankee. This year is obviously non-existent, but in the 9 games he has played, has looked very good. I think he might have proven some people wrong this year, but alas, wasn't meant to be.
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The overall numbers weren't bad but he was as streaky a player as I've ever seen. He was an automatic out for weeks at a time and was atrocious in the playoffs.
 
LeetchisGod said:
The overall numbers weren't bad but he was as streaky a player as I've ever seen. He was an automatic out for weeks at a time and was atrocious in the playoffs.
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Oh those 4 games are for sure indicative of how he’ll perform in the future.

Bt dubs, righties have hit verlander better this year than lefties. The splits for cole and Grienke are virtually identical.

Just a FYI.
 
ZuccsFluffierFluffer said:
Oh those 4 games are for sure indicative of how he’ll perform in the future.

Bt dubs, righties have hit verlander better this year than lefties. The splits for cole and Grienke are virtually identical.

Just a FYI.
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I'm not predicting the future. I hope he improves but I have found his performance as a Yankee underwhelming so far. He hasn't justified his salary at all and we are stuck with him for a long time.
 
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