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OT: MLB Thread - Part XVI: Come On. Do Something.

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Pavel Buchnevich said:
You like Cabrera's play this year? He's been awful, and then that trade request where he has the nerve to request a trade because he's awful at SS, and the team wants him to play a position that he's better suited to play? :help: The market shut him up, no one traded for him after his trade request. Look at his contract, as well. Why would we pick up his option? Makes no sense financially. I don't think there's been a Met in the last 10 years I've liked less than Cabrera, I'd have DFA'ed him the second he requested that trade. Liability to the team, in every sense.

But you are right, I saw that article. I hope it was just floated by Cabrera's agent, and isn't something coming from the Mets. I'd like to think Alderson is smarter than that, maybe Collins floated it himself. :laugh: I'd absolutely DFA Reyes or Cabrera for Smith right now. Smith is ready, the other two are free agents at the end of the season, need the space. Reyes is the lesser performer, but he's also not such a liability in the clubhouse, like Cabrera is. Tough decision which one to DFA, so thats why I said "or", as I wasn't sure. Neither should be on the team next year, although Reyes as a back up SS, I could somewhat tolerate, given Collins isn't the manager, and someone who's not going to play him everyday is managing the team.
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I wanted Asdrubal gone the day after his trade request...We know how the Wilpons like to save money i can see them paying AC 8.5 next year instead of Moustakis 17 for 5 years
 
I'm still somewhat hopeful Wright might return. We have so many options on the infield, spend money on a catcher or CF. Or possibly spend money on a difference maker pitcher like Ohtani.
 
nyr2k2 said:
It's a long season of ups and downs. You don't get too high after a solid ten game streak nor do you get too down after a rough three or four game stretch. The Yankees aren't going away, and if they get in all it takes is a few guys getting hot and you can find yourself in the WS.
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I agree with that sentiment.

It's just extremely frustrating that all the times this team scores 5, 7, 10 runs; they still can't score for **** with second and third and no outs.

And scoring exclusively on homeruns hasn't shown to be an effective playoff strategy.
 
Geoff Gorden said:
This team is not even close to championship caliber.

They let a nice 10 game stretch after a month and a half of suck fool them into thinking so.
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Yankees still have a top 3 farm system, and they kept the Type A prospects. Not really worried.

Although, I hated the Garcia trade, but wonder if that played into the leverage of getting Sonny Gray for less than originally rumored.
 
Gray helps Tanaka and Severino. Garcia gives us good #5 so that we don't trot out garbage every 5th day. It's actually looking like a very solid rotation.
 
Starting to look like the Yankees are going to drop at least 3 of 4 in this series against Cleveland. They're going to need some big time pitching performances.
 
Rangerfan4life90 said:
Yankees still have a top 3 farm system, and they kept the Type A prospects. Not really worried.

Although, I hated the Garcia trade, but wonder if that played into the leverage of getting Sonny Gray for less than originally rumored.
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I don't think its top 3, def top 10 though. They kept their best guys, but they also used a ton of pieces who could have been moved for other players down the line. I didn't even really have too much of an issue with the price for Gray, I'm far from sold on him being healthy enough to help the team beyond this season though.

This team isn't a contender. They're not even a lock for the playoffs.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
I'm still somewhat hopeful Wright might return. We have so many options on the infield, spend money on a catcher or CF. Or possibly spend money on a difference maker pitcher like Ohtani.
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I would like Bruce back and keep Conforto in CF and Lagares for a 4th and Nimmo 5th...Am I crazy for wanting TdA back? I feel he has 25 and 85 in him if he can stay on the field but maybe its time to cut bait? My thoughts are Wright is done we cant count him in for anything...I love Flores but where can he play?
 
I'm done with TDA. He'll be 29 next season, seems unlikely he'll suddenly flip the switch and perform consistently or be able to stay healthy. Not sure what better options exist though.

Wright is done. Going into next year he'll be 35 with like 75 games played over the past three seasons (assuming none this year). I just can't imagine him coming back. And if he does come back that's great, but you absolutely cannot COUNT on any production from him. We got bit in the ass counting on production from a bunch of pitchers coming off injury, hopefully the organization learns from its mistakes in that regard.

I'm okay with Bruce coming back. Maybe he'll decline the QO and we end up getting a pick for him. Who knows though, he could theoretically still be moved.

Flores I guess could play third. His fielding sucks everywhere, though, so he's gotta make up for it offensively. I'd rather he be a super-sub, honestly. 3B is the only place I see an opening heading into next year but I guess we'll see.
 
nyr2k2 said:
Flores I guess could play third. His fielding sucks everywhere, though, so he's gotta make up for it offensively. I'd rather he be a super-sub, honestly. 3B is the only place I see an opening heading into next year but I guess we'll see.
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Who is played 2B?
 
I want a complete youth overhaul. Move away from the 30+ year old players, except a good FA catcher. We have Cespedes and Wright (if healthy). That's enough for me.

1st: Smith
2nd: Cecchini/Flores/Rivera
3rd: Wright/Flores/Rivera
SS: Rosario
LF: Cespedes
CF: Lagares/Nimmo
RF: Conforto
C: FA signing
 
There is so such thing as 'Championship caliber' in baseball.

You make the playoffs and it's a lottery..Yankees are in playoff contention thus they are championship contenders...they are one and the same
 
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surf said:
I would like Bruce back and keep Conforto in CF and Lagares for a 4th and Nimmo 5th...Am I crazy for wanting TdA back? I feel he has 25 and 85 in him if he can stay on the field but maybe its time to cut bait? My thoughts are Wright is done we cant count him in for anything...I love Flores but where can he play?
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Something like that for the OF, although if Bruce doesn't accept the QO, we need to get a CF, and Conforto plays RF.

I wouldn't get rid of TDA, but he's not an everyday catcher. Add someone to platoon, maybe give Plawecki another chance? I don't know, we can't have another season of D'Arnaud and Rivera. Thats an area we struggle.

Infield should be Rivera 3B, Rosario SS, Flores 2B, Smith 1B with maybe the potential that if Wright is healthy he can play some 3B, and you rotate the others around when he plays. But there shouldn't be this 20 man infield platoon, these things don't work, all it does it gets players out of their rhythms. 5 guys maximum with a 6th who knows he's a back up, like Reyes who can be a back up MI who gives us some speed off the bench. If need be, there are minor leaguers who can come up and do a job. I wouldn't be against bringing back Duda, but it can't be Duda and Smith as they are both lefty bats, so one or the other. If they bring back Duda, Smith has to go in an offseason trade. Cabrera needs to go, Walker I like slightly more, but I'd let him go as well.
 
nyr2k2 said:
I'm done with TDA. He'll be 29 next season, seems unlikely he'll suddenly flip the switch and perform consistently or be able to stay healthy. Not sure what better options exist though.

Wright is done. Going into next year he'll be 35 with like 75 games played over the past three seasons (assuming none this year). I just can't imagine him coming back. And if he does come back that's great, but you absolutely cannot COUNT on any production from him. We got bit in the ass counting on production from a bunch of pitchers coming off injury, hopefully the organization learns from its mistakes in that regard.

I'm okay with Bruce coming back. Maybe he'll decline the QO and we end up getting a pick for him. Who knows though, he could theoretically still be moved.

Flores I guess could play third. His fielding sucks everywhere, though, so he's gotta make up for it offensively. I'd rather he be a super-sub, honestly. 3B is the only place I see an opening heading into next year but I guess we'll see.
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I've been told by a reliable source who works for the Mets and has been correct before on numerous things before they've been publicly released that Wright is most definitely done and that a retirement will be announced in November or December. This is basically a dog and pony show right now to make it look as if he's making a legit effort to return. He's been told however by at least 3 medical professionals he cannot play any longer. This is a big reason why Alderson has already hinted heavily that Cabrera's option will be picked up. They will try to draft a 3B in the first round although projections now don't necessarily have one falling to where they'll pick. Bruce wants to come back but the question is can he turn down more years from someone else which he will likely be offered. His wife has evidently adjusted well here and it doesn't sound as if he has any problems on that end as far as staying in New York but someone will give him 5 years probably.
 
Hire Sather said:
There is so such thing as 'Championship caliber' in baseball.

You make the playoffs and it's a lottery..Yankees are in playoff contention thus they are championship contenders...they are one and the same
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IDK about it being a lottery, but yeah, much smaller field in baseball means if you're in that final eight you're probably capable of winning it all.
 
BMOK33 said:
I've been told by a reliable source who works for the Mets and has been correct before on numerous things before they've been publicly released that Wright is most definitely done and that a retirement will be announced in November or December. This is basically a dog and pony show right now to make it look as if he's making a legit effort to return. He's been told however by at least 3 medical professionals he cannot play any longer. This is a big reason why Alderson has already hinted heavily that Cabrera's option will be picked up. They will try to draft a 3B in the first round although projections now don't necessarily have one falling to where they'll pick. Bruce wants to come back but the question is can he turn down more years from someone else which he will likely be offered. His wife has evidently adjusted well here and it doesn't sound as if he has any problems on that end as far as staying in New York but someone will give him 5 years probably.
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I get what you´re saying but we couldnt even give Bruce away at the dead line who is gonna give him 5 years? Maybe he takes 3 for 45 from us?
 
The Yankees are being completely outclassed in this series. They aren't on the same level as the Indians, or the Astros for that matter.
 
RGY said:
I would slow down a bit.

They obviously are not playing their best baseball right now. Not a good time to compare.
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They haven't played their best baseball for most of the last 2 months. They've been playing subpar ball for almost as long as they were playing great ball.


This is not a contender.
 
God I'm not even a Yankee fan and all of these Yankees takes are so ridiculous.

They were in first place 4 days ago, christ.

It's like people just want to hedge their bets so they can at least say they were right if their team fails. Same **** with the Rangers.
 
mrjimmyg89 said:
I want a complete youth overhaul. Move away from the 30+ year old players, except a good FA catcher. We have Cespedes and Wright (if healthy). That's enough for me.

1st: Smith
2nd: Cecchini/Flores/Rivera
3rd: Wright/Flores/Rivera
SS: Rosario
LF: Cespedes
CF: Lagares/Nimmo
RF: Conforto
C: FA signing
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Can't count on Wright. Flores and Rivera are redundant.
 
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