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I understood the need for Machado when they hadn't signed LaMahieu. Now, signing LaMahieu just looks like burning money.
 
Rangerfan4life90 said:
Nah, I'd argue the Yankees are a slightly better team than the Astros and Red Sox based on how this offseason has gone.

Add a Harper/Machado? Then it's really not even close at that point.
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I mean they're all 100+ win teams at this point. For one to make it "not close" would probably require some luck. I don't think the Red Sox were 8-games better than the Yankees last year, based just on talent, but sometimes it doesn't play out the way you think it would on paper.
 
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Cassano said:
I think even if we sign a Machado/Harper, we are still behind the Red Sox/Astros in overall quality.
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I dont think so.

Definitely not the Astros. Their SP has taken a big blow. There bullpen is good but not above ours. Lineup without Harper/Machado evens up, with them we are ahead.

With the Red Sox, i think we have the edge with the lineup without Machado/Harper...slight edge. Bullpen isnt even close. And i think SP is pretty close right now with the Sox having the edge. But just like the Yankees have questions so do the Sox...is Price going to have a down year and/or struggle against the Yanks? Sure he had a good postseason against us but that was an outlier. Sale...is arm going to stay intact?

I mean its close, but yes its the Sox division to lose
 
Houston is the best team in baseball IMO. Correa, Altuve and Springer all had down seasons last year. They added a very good player in Brantley. Pitching wise they are worse off losing Keuchel and Morton but they still have an excellent trio of Cole/Verlander/McCullers and we'll see Whitley at some point too.
 
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MahomesIsGod said:
Yep.

It's a good thing that pitchers aren't the most volatile, oft injured position in sports!

...oh wait.
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Every year I gotta hear about how the Mets are 6 deep in the rotation in march.

By the summer, I'm siting there wondering how TF I'm watching Rafael Montero start again.

Pitchers are so fragile.
 
darko said:
Houston is the best team in baseball IMO. Correa, Altuve and Springer all had down seasons last year. They added a very good player in Brantley. Pitching wise they are worse off losing Keuchel and Morton but they still have an excellent trio of Cole/Verlander/McCullers and we'll see Whitley at some point too.
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they're gonna get Kyle Tucker as well Lol.
 
darko said:
Houston is the best team in baseball IMO. Correa, Altuve and Springer all had down seasons last year. They added a very good player in Brantley. Pitching wise they are worse off losing Keuchel and Morton but they still have an excellent trio of Cole/Verlander/McCullers and we'll see Whitley at some point too.
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McCullers is out for the entire season with TJ. Sooo you have 2 proven starters and one great prospect who is unproven.

And cmon...Yankees are thin with a full season of Happ, who has had great success in the AL East, and Paxton who has been great when healthy? I guess Tanaka and Severino are nothing to write home about? Is it because CC is the 5th? Monty will be back. German and Loasiga have shown promise of being a pretty good 4/5 starter in a rotation. Dont see us below HOU and i see us right there with Boston. Maybe they can snag Keuchel for the 5 spot. Maybe they add someone during the year.
 
Yanks aren't "thin" at SP, but they lack a true ace unless Paxton has a career year or Severino can remain consistent. If both happen, then are as good as anyone, but I'm not terribly confident.

Obviously, I'd fully expect them to make more deadline moves.
 
darko said:
Houston is the best team in baseball IMO. Correa, Altuve and Springer all had down seasons last year. They added a very good player in Brantley. Pitching wise they are worse off losing Keuchel and Morton but they still have an excellent trio of Cole/Verlander/McCullers and we'll see Whitley at some point too.
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McCullers I believe is out for the year.
 
Houston doesn’t worry me anymore. Their lineup is lethal, but their rotation is a two trick pony and their bullpen sucks.

The Red Sox bullpen blows chunks, but their lineup is lethal and their rotation is pretty good. Price could fall apart and Eovaldi could go back to his norms and/or get hurt and then all of a sudden they’re garbage again.

Cleveland frightens me more than Houston. Losing Miller sucks for them, but their rotation is arguably the best in the majors.
 
Here's how I feel about this division:

Boston - did squat this offseason, won't be a 109-win team again. They're going to regress.
Toronto - not a threat
Rays - the real threat of the divison
OriLOLs

Yankees should be the #1 in the division this year. But if we get Harper or Machado, I think it's a sure thing to be at the top.
 
Irishguy42 said:
Here's how I feel about this division:

Boston - did squat this offseason, won't be a 109-win team again. They're going to regress.
Toronto - not a threat
Rays - the real threat of the divison
OriLOLs

Yankees should be the #1 in the division this year. But if we get Harper or Machado, I think it's a sure thing to be at the top.
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I think some players will improve from last year (Stanton, Sanchez) and some will regress (Voit, Andujar). It's really hard to peg where Judge will be. Happ is 36 and who knows if he can maintain his form. How can you be sure the Yanks are a 100 win team and won't regress themselves? Baseball is a really long season and so many things can happen (injuries, trades, career years and flops). Here is 538's preseason predictions for last season for the top 8 rated teams.

[TABLE="class: brtb_item_table"][TBODY][TR][TD]Team[/TD][TD]Proj
Wins[/TD]
[TD]Proj
Run Diff[/TD]
[TD]Act vs Proj
Wins[/TD]
[TD]Act vs Proj
Diff[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Astros[/TD][TD]97[/TD][TD]+151[/TD][TD]+6[/TD][TD]+112[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Indians[/TD][TD]99[/TD][TD]+174[/TD][TD]-8[/TD][TD]-4[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Dodgers[/TD][TD]97[/TD][TD]+145[/TD][TD]-5[/TD][TD]+49[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Yanks[/TD][TD]95[/TD][TD]+125[/TD][TD]+5[/TD][TD]+57[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Cubs[/TD][TD]95[/TD][TD]+127[/TD][TD]0[/TD][TD]-11[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Red Sox[/TD][TD]91[/TD][TD]+89[/TD][TD]+17[/TD][TD]+140[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Nats[/TD][TD]93[/TD][TD]+111[/TD][TD]-11[/TD][TD]-22[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]DBacks[/TD][TD]85[/TD][TD]+38[/TD][TD]-3[/TD][TD]+11[/TD][/TR][/TBODY][/TABLE]
 
Here's PECOTA for 2019, AL:

EastUpdatedWLRSRAAVGOBPSLGDRC+FRAADRA
New York YankeesHitters: Jan 20
Pitchers: Feb 4		9567801662.261.341.4521129.44.01
Boston Red SoxHitters: Jan 20
Pitchers: Feb 4		8973768686.267.341.44010827.14.38
Tampa Bay RaysHitters: Jan 20
Pitchers: Feb 4		8676705661.246.319.3989619.54.25
Toronto Blue JaysHitters: Feb 4
Pitchers: Feb 4		7686712765.252.316.43097-15.54.60
Baltimore OriolesHitters: Jan 28
Pitchers: Feb 7		59103672902.229.292.38782-28.55.03
CentralUpdatedWLRSRAAVGOBPSLGDRC+FRAADRA
Cleveland IndiansHitters: Feb 8
Pitchers: Feb 4		9765777623.248.324.4199840.24.16
Minnesota TwinsHitters: Feb 5
Pitchers: Feb 5		8181730727.253.320.42610114.34.64
Kansas City RoyalsHitters: Jan 13
Pitchers: Feb 8		7290706797.240.305.39990-21.54.91
Chicago White SoxHitters: Feb 7
Pitchers: Feb 7		7191690793.247.308.40291-16.94.87
Detroit TigersHitters: Jan 25
Pitchers: Feb 4		6795650786.239.302.39289-12.84.85
WestUpdatedWLRSRAAVGOBPSLGDRC+FRAADRA
Houston AstrosHitters: Jan 7
Pitchers: Feb 4		9864791631.264.340.432112-12.84.02
Los Angeles AngelsHitters: Jan 31
Pitchers: Feb 7		8082785796.258.339.429109-33.84.69
Oakland AthleticsHitters: Dec 21
Pitchers: Feb 7		7983723744.239.313.41410017.94.83
Seattle MarinersHitters: Jan 25
Pitchers: Feb 4		7488723795.247.318.40497-26.34.83
Texas RangersHitters: Feb 8
Pitchers: Feb 4		7092728844.249.319.41793-6.54.89
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It will be close. I look at the Yankees, Red Sox, Astros, and Indians as four teams that can realistically win 100+ games. As usual, it's going to come down to health, who has breakout seasons/disappointing seasons, the always-volatile one-run game luck, etc. I mean it's really a toss-up, to me. Yankees fans should feel pretty good about their chances, but so should those other teams. I can't really see anyone running away from the pack in the AL (again barring some confluence of luck-related events). I'd feel good, but definitely not cocky.

BP Depth Charts
 
Here's the NL, just for reference. PECOTA likes the Mets!

EastUpdatedWLRSRAAVGOBPSLGDRC+FRAADRA
Washington NationalsHitters: Jan 13
Pitchers: Feb 8		8973735657.251.323.4139628.14.14
New York MetsHitters: Feb 6
Pitchers: Feb 4		8874691628.247.317.405981.14.08
Philadelphia PhilliesHitters: Feb 7
Pitchers: Feb 4		8676726676.251.320.41094-24.64.15
Atlanta BravesHitters: Feb 6
Pitchers: Feb 2		8577710673.251.324.40899-2.94.36
Miami MarlinsHitters: Feb 7
Pitchers: Feb 4		6795611743.238.301.370849.24.73
CentralUpdatedWLRSRAAVGOBPSLGDRC+FRAADRA
Milwaukee BrewersHitters: Jan 14
Pitchers: Feb 4		8874734672.249.319.4149533.94.30
St. Louis CardinalsHitters: Feb 6
Pitchers: Feb 4		8676729679.247.319.4101005.54.26
Chicago CubsHitters: Dec 18
Pitchers: Feb 4		8181744741.250.328.41299-12.64.38
Cincinnati RedsHitters: Feb 7
Pitchers: Feb 4		8181751755.260.333.42698-15.14.38
Pittsburgh PiratesHitters: Feb 4
Pitchers: Feb 4		8181687689.249.311.39789-1.74.26
WestUpdatedWLRSRAAVGOBPSLGDRC+FRAADRA
Los Angeles DodgersHitters: Feb 5
Pitchers: Feb 4		9468760636.250.328.42210118.94.03
Colorado RockiesHitters: Feb 5
Pitchers: Feb 2		8676765718.265.327.4521002.64.32
Arizona D-backsHitters: Feb 6
Pitchers: Feb 5		8280688680.244.311.40590-6.54.29
San Diego PadresHitters: Feb 4
Pitchers: Feb 1		7587683742.238.303.395863.94.49
San Francisco GiantsHitters: Feb 5
Pitchers: Feb 5		7389655729.242.308.387886.44.61
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
NL East is going to be brutal.
 
When has a prediction for the Mets ever been close to coming true? :laugh:

BTW I wonder if I'll get another one of these this season.

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