Imagine how good the Astros would be if he had worked out. The next year the Astros had the top pick and used it on another pitcher who didn't sign. I just hate the way the MLB draft works.
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Bob Richards
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The fact that the only other two guys were Mets and Yankees 1st overall picks is fire flames too.
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Bob Richards
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The Astro's three straight top picks were featured in the World Series win in the form of Carlos Correa and Ken Giles.
One Winged Angel
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Nats signed Strasburg and Harper as consecutive 1OA picks but never even played in a world series.
How different is it? You'd think in drafting him a 3rd time 1st overall they'd be even more sure of him.
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One Winged Angel
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Not necessarily, what if something happened along the way? Injury, mechanical issue, character issue.
If anything, you’d want your organization working with any pick as opposed to a college that you have no affiliation with, right?
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. When they drafted Appel they had an additional year of scouting to work with. They'd have known if something happened along the way. AFAIK drafting out of HS and college works essentially the same. If you sign them they go into your organization otherwise they go back to school.
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Sorry, you’re right, I wasn’t clear about what I was trying to say. I’m kinda back and forth between working and responding, so I probably rushed my response.
What I’m trying to say is that he got re-drafted twice and maybe somewhere along the line after getting re-drafted the second time, something happened. I can’t speak about it because I simply don’t know the facts or what went on behind the scenes, but obviously something changed.
While you’re right the Cole may not be the norm, neither is Appel. We’re both using extremes to support our sides of the argument.
The middle is probably the norm, even though I may think it leans towards Cole, there’s no sure fire way to say “Player A will be an Ace.” However, with the pedigree Cole had and the Yankees penchant for developing players, I feel fairly confident that he would have done well here, eventually. While they’ve only pumped out one true ace recently, they’ve done very well overall with pitchers. Montgomery has been good. Loaisaga shows flashes. Although not a Yankee pick, Sheffield was a top prospect that was coveted by many teams that went through their developmental system.
So I don’t think either one of us will ever be truly right or wrong.
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i'm sick of the speculation from all the "insiders". No one knows what the f*** is going on. They all make shit up for clicks and views. I quit following it.
I'd obviously like for them to add MM but even if they don't I like the team's chances with the guys they currently have. Given another year to gel as a lineup and be a little better situationally and they are right there with the scariest lineup in the majors.
I'd obviously like for them to add MM but even if they don't I like the team's chances with the guys they currently have. Given another year to gel as a lineup and be a little better situationally and they are right there with the scariest lineup in the majors.
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a little regression to the mean (30th in BABIP with runners on last year) and just being better.
the contradiction is if it was as bad as you and some fans make it out to be, adding one player (a really good one, albeit still one guy) the problem should still be really prevalent.
I think as is the team is actually very good... it's just that Boston has a historically good team and we aren't beating them with just a "very good" team. Astros aren't too far behind
Unless every player has a great season next year unless we load up on weapons we're going to fall short once again.
Additionally, would't be surprised to see both Gleyber and Andujar take a step back, and I have zero faith that Bird is an major league first baseman.
Unless every player has a great season next year unless we load up on weapons we're going to fall short once again.
Additionally, would't be surprised to see both Gleyber and Andujar take a step back, and I have zero faith that Bird is an major league first baseman.
One Winged Angel
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I agree about Bird. Andujar could go either way and I think Torres is only going to get better.
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Jed Lowrie to the Mets for 2 years, 20m total.
Wonder if another trade is coming.
the more I think about it, he'll play multiple positions and get in the lineup full time. 1st and 3rd aren't exactly strong.
the more I think about it, he'll play multiple positions and get in the lineup full time. 1st and 3rd aren't exactly strong.
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Stinks is a pretty relative term. He's better at baseball and football than most people I know.For somebody who stinks at two sports, he's having a hell of a life
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A for effort this offseason . Gonna guess Jed plays more 3b w Frazier at 1b but they can move him to SS and 2B to give a guy a rest
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Conforto , Nimmo , Broxton , Lagares , McNeil in the OF a lot too ?
Frazier , Cano , Rosario , Lowrie , Davis
Ramos , Darnaud
Cespedes when ready but in the meantime a R Davis or D Smith ?
Call up Alonso if ready
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