It counted against Tampa in the first round when he was the star. But in a way you are right. Without Marner they would never have lost to Florida because they never would have made it that far.
he never brought it toward the end of that series either so i missed the joke
heres the big question now who has he had the luxury of playing with and whats his toi average during this said amount of games
stats at 5v5 last 18 games( would take too much time for last 21)
doesnt that make it stupid to remove willy from the top pp if hes been the most productive since thats where hes getting his points and marner has not been in a shut down role we've been playing match up games tryna get them away from top competition but appreciate the stats though
Believe it or not, certain posters here were proclaiming Marner was better than Barkov a few years ago. Yup, Eichel, Tkachuk, Barkov,, Aho, Rantanen. I believe some balked at Makar for Marner proposals. Nope Marner was easily the better player haha. Good times. Not seeing so much of those posts anymore around here. Then again, I was pointing out his shortcomings in 2019 when others were blinded by his stats with 27 year old, freshly signed John Tavares... who suddenly was the beneficiary to Marner, even though Tavares was coming off an 88 point seasons and being recently a two time hart trophy finalist on the island, while playing with little of a supporting cast. While Marner was coming off a 69 p69-pointson of... boosting 4th liners JVR and Kadri.
And with Nylander, he wasn’t getting top competition 5v5 opposition, so his numbers are even more eye popping bad relative to Marner.
11 points in 6 games is enough for one player.
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Marleau's deal was for three years with a full NMC with large signing bonuses while the core were still on their ELCs, and it turned out to be a big mistake. Leafs should have no incentive to give JT anything like that.
Matthews got 2 in the last 2, Tavares 3 and Nylander goose egged.
thank you which was exactly what i was getting at but anyways heres to changing the narrative
he also wasnt playing with the best goal scorer in the league or on the first pp like are you joking right now whos he passing the pucc to??cause i know marner wasnt scoring
level the playing field and force marner to be the scoring threat i know hes capable of being
Yeah that's fair. I don't really get why anybody would use it to try and prove a point. I've seen people using Justin Bourne to even try and win arguments too in this thread. I probably should just stick to GDT's and cheering lol personally I have no interest in articles or analytics. Is Marner overpaid? I certainly think so in a hard cap league but he's definitely not the bad player everyone keeps trying to make him out to be at all and this talk about how he interviews and stuff just seems like extreme overreaching.
It's not a matter of "getting rid of" anyone, why do people keep trotting out that stupid straw man? It's about what could be done with the freed up cap space and let's say instead of Marner, we spent it on two Muzzin type Dmen, do you think there's a chance that overall, we'd be better defensively?They need to be better defensively, solution = get rid of one of their best defensive forwards.
LOL no, not true at all, it was obvious to many of us that the 3rd year would be a problem the minute that contract was signed. There was LOTS of discussion about this that began the day the signing was announced and I'm pretty sure you were here at the time so it would seem that your memory is failling you on this occasion.
Nylander is actually the only one of our stars who's level of production does NOT go down in the playoffs so this is just wrong.
