Player Discussion Mitch Marner

[GoonieFace]

Keefe commented on the brilliance.
‘Thank God it was Mitch’

This coming from the coach that scratches Robertson every other game. That’s not a ringing endorsement

 

[Gabriel426]

This coming from the coach that scratches Robertson every other game. That’s not a ringing endorsement

I think thats say more about the depth of the Leafs than Keefe not playing Robbie.
I was discussing the playoffs lines with another poster and when everyone is healthy, he completely forgot to put Knies in the lineups.
Thats just show the depth of the Leafs this season.

 

[Dreakmur]

This coming from the coach that scratches Robertson every other game. That’s not a ringing endorsement

It’s lip service paid to a player with a fragile psyche. He was just trying to pump Mitch’s tires.

 

[Antropovsky]

5vs5:
Marner: 950 mins 26 assists, 17 primary
Domi: assists 942 mins 34 assists, 21 primary assists

Domi beginning to run away as this years best passer on the team, while playing less time with Matthews and Tavares.

 

[ACC1224]

It’s lip service paid to a player with a fragile psyche. He was just trying to pump Mitch’s tires.

Players don’t watch the Coaches Interviews to find out what he thinks about them.

 

[WTFMAN99]

He was good last night, just didn't like the blind backhand pass on the PK which resulted in the Mercer goal, details like that need to be cleaned up ahead of the playoffs, I suspect some of it is rust.

 

[crump]

Important games for Marner to get his speed, strength and timing back. Hopefully by playoffs he’s close to 100%. That’s a tough injury.

 

[Notsince67]

Important games for Marner to get his speed, strength and timing back. Hopefully by playoffs he’s close to 100%. That’s a tough injury.

Yeah. We will have a few more of those to add soon too

 

[DarkKnight]

This coming from the coach that scratches Robertson every other game. That’s not a ringing endorsement

What about a two time Cup champ coach, does that register or does our insecure need to shit on everything Mitch not even allow for a stone cold fact?

Be better.

 

[GoonieFace]

What about a two time Cup champ coach, does that register or does our insecure need to shit on everything Mitch not even allow for a stone cold fact?

Be better.

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I never said anything bad about Marner, just stating a fact that getting an endorsement from Keefe shouldn’t be something to be proud of. Speaking of insecure, endlessly trying to find any quote that shines light on Marner. Once again, never said he wasn’t a good player, just not Wayne Gretzky Jr like some people pretend he is, also not necessarily referring to you specifically

 

[DarkKnight]

I never said anything bad about Marner, just stating a fact that getting an endorsement from Keefe shouldn’t be something to be proud of. Speaking of insecure, endlessly trying to find any quote that shines light on Marner. Once again, never said he wasn’t a good player, just not Wayne Gretzky Jr like some people pretend he is, also not necessarily referring to you specifically

You mentioned the coach, was pretty simple to find a counter. You can't handle any pushback to your arguments, so attack me or maybe get off auto hate pilot. Marner is a very smart player, and Gretzky himself said he reminded him of his game, so nice reference. Nobody is over hyping the guy, just correcting the garbage here.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Players don’t watch the Coaches Interviews to find out what he thinks about them.

Intelligent people don't take comments coaches make to the media about their players literally.

I never said anything bad about Marner, just stating a fact that getting an endorsement from Keefe shouldn’t be something to be proud of. Speaking of insecure, endlessly trying to find any quote that shines light on Marner. Once again, never said he wasn’t a good player, just not Wayne Gretzky Jr like some people pretend he is, also not necessarily referring to you specifically

The insecurity ITT is indeed over the top.

 

[Darcy Tucker]

The insecurity ITT is indeed over the top.

By that same token so is the blind hatred.

 

[Havoc]

He seems to be coasting and just making sure his cardio is up to par for round 1.

I like to keep referencing Tkachuk since he's become the poster boy for skill + grit combo.

He was literally one big hit away from career threatening injuries. If you can afford to coast the remainder of the season, you should.

Coasting honors is a well earned priviledge for a team, not a sign of being soft.

 

[Stephen]

I’ve said since the Montreal series that in order to win with Marner and go on a deep run we need to separate the Leafs come up story with Marner’s personal growth story.

Separating Matthews from Marner and seeing him have success with Domi and Bertuzzi is great news. We don’t have to worry about the dynamic duo being neutralized. Or any of the pressure narratives that follow Mitch around.

Marner can go about his business separately and provide quality minutes on a separate line. Whether he gets it done or not the pressure has been dialled down. And if he gets hot, he gets hot. If he’s not, there’s another line to carry him through.

I wouldn’t mind seeing a Marner Nylander duo too at some point. Then drop Tavares down to a third line and just let him grind it out.

 

[Gary Nylund]

By that same token so is the blind hatred.

I don't see it myself. For example, I must have been called a hater a thousand times by now but I'm not a hater, far from it. Just a year ago I was praising him to the heavens, now after the last playoffs I adjusted my opinion of him downwards, this season so far has had no affect on my opinion of him and I may readjust again after the playoffs. I believe the people who keep calling me a hater do so because I have the temerity to mention the playoffs every now and then but to me, that's just snowflaky nonsense and the idea that we can only talk about the playoffs for the couple of weeks a year that they're happening is just dumb. Playoffs are the most important thing there is and I see no reason not to talk about it 52 weeks a year.

JMHO.

I’ve said since the Montreal series that in order to win with Marner and go on a deep run we need to separate the Leafs come up story with Marner’s personal growth story.

Separating Matthews from Marner and seeing him have success with Domi and Bertuzzi is great news. We don’t have to worry about the dynamic duo being neutralized. Or any of the pressure narratives that follow Mitch around.

Marner can go about his business separately and provide quality minutes on a separate line. Whether he gets it done or not the pressure has been dialled down. And if he gets hot, he gets hot. If he’s not, there’s another line to carry him through.

I wouldn’t mind seeing a Marner Nylander duo too at some point. Then drop Tavares down to a third line and just let him grind it out.

It's been said so many times that Marner makes everyone he plays with better and if that's true, he should have zero problems driving a productive line without Matthews. And considering how well Matthews is doing without him, moving Marner back on a line with him seems like it would a complete waste of his ability.

 

[Darcy Tucker]

I don't see it myself. For example, I must have been called a hater a thousand times by now but I'm not a hater, far from it. Just a year ago I was praising him to the heavens, now after the last playoffs I adjusted my opinion of him downwards, this season so far has had no affect on my opinion of him and I may readjust again after the playoffs. I believe the people who keep calling me a hater do so because I have the temerity to mention the playoffs every now and then but to me, that's just snowflaky nonsense and the idea that we can only talk about the playoffs for the couple of weeks a year that they're happening is just dumb. Playoffs are the most important thing there is and I see no reason not to talk about it 52 weeks a year.

JMHO

I wasn't singleing you out Gary , you're far from a hater and can actually be quite reasonable. It just seems there's some accounts on here who's sole existence is to shit on Marner at every opportunity and it gets tiresome. You were saying the super fans of his are insecure , then what does it say about the other side of the coin? It's creeping into "Finkel is Einhorn" territory.

Laces out!

 

[Larcos_Unal]

Damn shame that Mitch got hurt when he did cause he was looking the best he's looked all year long. He was noticeably quicker and was his usual waterbug self.

As expected, post-injury he's playing a little bit of catch up.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

I'm surprised it needs to be said that nobody feels hatred towards Marner. This is a message board and there's no interesting discussion to be had without people on both sides.

In any event, Marner is a raw production machine and he'd have hit his 100 points healthy. It's too bad it'll need to wait til next year.

 

[Darcy Tucker]

I'm surprised it needs to be said that nobody feels hatred towards Marner. This is a message board and there's no interesting discussion to be had without people on both sides.

Oh it's hatred. What else would compel someone to be so negative about someone for so long? They don't even want him on the team anymore. It's even worse on other sites.

 

[Stephen]

I don't see it myself. For example, I must have been called a hater a thousand times by now but I'm not a hater, far from it. Just a year ago I was praising him to the heavens, now after the last playoffs I adjusted my opinion of him downwards, this season so far has had no affect on my opinion of him and I may readjust again after the playoffs. I believe the people who keep calling me a hater do so because I have the temerity to mention the playoffs every now and then but to me, that's just snowflaky nonsense and the idea that we can only talk about the playoffs for the couple of weeks a year that they're happening is just dumb. Playoffs are the most important thing there is and I see no reason not to talk about it 52 weeks a year.

JMHO.


It's been said so many times that Marner makes everyone he plays with better and if that's true, he should have zero problems driving a productive line without Matthews. And considering how well Matthews is doing without him, moving Marner back on a line with him seems like it would a complete waste of his ability.

Matthews and Marner together gives the other team a strategic bullseye to shut down. If we spread it around it creates more mismatches and less of a chance they can focus their energy on one thing.

Marner boosting up middle lineup guys to be more offensive threats would be huge. Instead of Matthews and Marner out there for 25 minutes together you’ve suddenly got Matthews or Marner out there for 40 plus minutes. That’s huge.

 

[ACC1224]

Matthews and Marner together gives the other team a strategic bullseye to shut down. If we spread it around it creates more mismatches and less of a chance they can focus their energy on one thing.

Marner boosting up middle lineup guys to be more offensive threats would be huge. Instead of Matthews and Marner out there for 25 minutes together you’ve suddenly got Matthews or Marner out there for 40 plus minutes. That’s huge.

Yep, the only worry is the hit the top line takes defensively by removing Marner.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Matthews and Marner together gives the other team a strategic bullseye to shut down. If we spread it around it creates more mismatches and less of a chance they can focus their energy on one thing.

Marner boosting up middle lineup guys to be more offensive threats would be huge. Instead of Matthews and Marner out there for 25 minutes together you’ve suddenly got Matthews or Marner out there for 40 plus minutes. That’s huge.

It's a tired topic but can either Mitch or Willy not learn centre? Especially Mitch, it's not hard to believe that he could learn it. Something for next year. When talking about spreading the damage Mitch is probably a better centre than the whole free agent class

 

[ACC1224]

It's a tired topic but can either Mitch or Willy not learn centre? Especially Mitch, it's not hard to believe that he could learn it. Something for next year. When talking about spreading the damage Mitch is probably a better centre than the whole free agent class

He could easily play Centre, he's played there most of his life.

 

[Aashir]

It's a tired topic but can either Mitch or Willy not learn centre? Especially Mitch, it's not hard to believe that he could learn it. Something for next year. When talking about spreading the damage Mitch is probably a better centre than the whole free agent class

I don’t think it’s as easy as just transitioning to playing the middle of the ice

If it was we would’ve tried it with Marner, but there’s definitely something to it. We tried him at RD before we tried him at C

Going from W to C is super tough, even for someone as good at defence as Marner.

But man would it open up a lot. The best goal scoring center in the league on L1, then a top 5 playmaking Center in the league on L2. Resign domi or bring in another high end playmaker for L1 and staple nylander to marners wing and that’s an elite start. Two different lines with insanely different styles would be so hard to shit down