Player Discussion Mitch Marner, Yet Again

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As much as I would hate to run it back after another playoff disappointment, I'd rather sign him to a slightly higher Nylander deal than have him walk for nothing. Said it many times, sign at a team friendly deal and you will win over many of the fans you pissed off with your last negotiations.

You then need to add a Bennett to add a different flavour to the top 6. JT would have to give us a sweet deal or walk for nothing.


TSN who has long been accused of having a pro leaf bias, has Marner at 23 and Rantanen at 10. They have Matthews all the way up at 3. You may like Marner more than Rantanen but it seems the stats and the rest of the hockey world do t agree with you. This is good news, it puts Marner’s ceiling at around 12.5 x 8. We should be able to get him signed now.
Why hasnt mitch signed then
Lets just hope his ego isnt puusified
 
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I was convinced that Marner was going to stay and re-sign, but after hearing that Treliving made 2 attempts to get Rantanen I don't know anymore. It sounds to me like they're not close in negotiations. Paying JT, paying Marner, and paying Knies down the road means bold decisions have to be made.
 
Yep. Now Marner is JT on NYI. We asked him to stay. We asked him if he doesn’t want to stay he can leave.

Now it’s all over.

If he doesn’t sign we have plenty to sign wingers.
We will be just fine brother.

It will hurt losing Marner for nothing, for all his faults hes a solid hockey player. But there's also something to be said around cup teams and their culture. Marner can never be a culture guy with his me first attitude.

Matthews is in a similar boat but the guy has legendary potential. You absolutely buck up and pay for that. Marner, while being ultra skilled, is not as rare of a talent as Matthews. Just imagine what tre can do with an extra 11Mil to our D, we could really be turning the corner here into a stalwart defensive group.
 
I was convinced that Marner was going to stay and re-sign, but after hearing that Treliving made 2 attempts to get Rantanen I don't know anymore. It sounds to me like they're not close in negotiations. Paying JT, paying Marner, and paying Knies down the road means bold decisions have to be made.
This is more proof that Marner's ask is ridiculous, even to the Leafs.
 
All the guys who love marner just a question...

Aren't you guys tired. This dude is so f***ing difficult. Like STFU take 12-12.5 and move on. You get endorsements and paid in usd to live and be a GOD according to his words in his own hometown. Like bro you're talented but you're such a bitch. God it's exhausting.
I'll bite. Show me proof of the number and term that Marner is asking. Then show me proof not some journalists opinion of the number and term that the Leafs are offering. You guys are getting all wound up over rumours and journalists making shit up or being used by both sides in the negotiations. Also, it's very probable that Marner will go to UFA as is his right. Why are you exhausting yourself over rumours.
 
Take a look at Ferris' other clients, you'll see a pattern. This is all by design, the guy doesn't give a F about player reputation - he's here to get his guys paid at all costs.

True. Which is why I always roll my eyes at the whole 'Mitch is just a home town kid who loves the coty' stuff. He's being driven by money. Which doesn't make him a bad guy,.hockey is a business, but it also doesn't mean fans have to like it.

Funnily his biggest money offers from other teams are likely going to be from non-playoff teams. Chicago/Pittsburgh /New York/Anaheim also have state income taxes so there goes the narrative that the Leafs have to grossly overpay to compensate for taxes
 
I'll bite. Show me proof of the number and term that Marner is asking. Then show me proof not some journalists opinion of the number and term that the Leafs are offering. You guys are getting all wound up over rumours and journalists making shit up or being used by both sides in the negotiation. Also, it's very probable that Marner will go to UFA as is his right. Why are you exhausting yourself over rumours.
Do you not remember last time?

This will go on until right up to July 1. Ferris is a field rat.
 
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I'll bite. Show me proof of the number and term that Marner is asking. Then show me proof not some journalists opinion of the number and term that the Leafs are offering. You guys are getting all wound up over rumours and journalists making shit up or being used by both sides in the negotiation. Also, it's very probable that Marner will go to UFA as is his right. Why are you exhausting yourself over rumours.

The problem is the only person you listen to is Marner. Multiple sources saying the Leafs offered Marner more than Rantanen signed for, it doesn't matter.

Do you expect Marner to come out and say I want 13M+? Why would he say that? Would he enjoyed getting booed the rest of the season?
 
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I'll bite. Show me proof of the number and term that Marner is asking. Then show me proof not some journalists opinion of the number and term that the Leafs are offering. You guys are getting all wound up over rumours and journalists making shit up or being used by both sides in the negotiations. Also, it's very probable that Marner will go to UFA as is his right. Why are you exhausting yourself over rumours.
If you don't think he's demanding 13 plus I got a bridge to sell you
 
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The problem is the only person you listen to is Marner. Multiple sources saying the Leafs offered Marner more than Rantanen signed for, it doesn't matter.

Do you expect Marner to come out and say I want 13M+? Why would he say that? Would he enjoyed getting booed the rest of the season?
"Multiple sources" is all that you should need to hear to dismiss it. Marner deserves more than Rantanen. Marner and his agent would never publicly announce their offers but both sides might use the media to negotiate.
 
I'll bite. Show me proof of the number and term that Marner is asking. Then show me proof not some journalists opinion of the number and term that the Leafs are offering. You guys are getting all wound up over rumours and journalists making shit up or being used by both sides in the negotiations. Also, it's very probable that Marner will go to UFA as is his right. Why are you exhausting yourself over rumours.

What proof do you have they're making any of this up?

Common sense and reading between the lines of what's been reported would suggest the Leafs have likely made a fairly generous offer to Marner without knowing every single detail.

Do you honestly think the Leafs haven't offered him more money than say Nylander?
 
The problem is the only person you listen to is Marner. Multiple sources saying the Leafs offered Marner more than Rantanen signed for, it doesn't matter.

Do you expect Marner to come out and say I want 13M+? Why would he say that? Would he enjoyed getting booed the rest of the season?
Like really though. What does this guy want.

Can someone please list out a deal that makes sense for both Toronto and Marner? I honestly cant do it if its not 12.5 x 8, and im not really sure that makes sense for us.
 
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We will be just fine brother.

It will hurt losing Marner for nothing, for all his faults hes a solid hockey player. But there's also something to be said around cup teams and their culture. Marner can never be a culture guy with his me first attitude.

Matthews is in a similar boat but the guy has legendary potential. You absolutely buck up and pay for that. Marner, while being ultra skilled, is not as rare of a talent as Matthews. Just imagine what tre can do with an extra 11Mil to our D, we could really be turning the corner here into a stalwart defensive group.
It’s not the end of the world if he walks for nothing. A deadline trade may have gotten 2 1sts, look what we got for 2 1sts. It was something but we wouldn’t be crushed without Laughton and Carlo.
 
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If he wasn't willing to sign to a decent deal that works for the Leafs, then we really should just wait and see how the playoffs go. If we fail to succeed, and as usual he's a big part of that failure, we are probably better re-allocating that cap elsewhere anyway. We can't keep doing the same thing, and expecting different results... at some point we are going to have to change it up.
 
What proof do you have they're making any of this up?

Common sense and reading between the lines of what's been reported would suggest the Leafs have likely made a fairly generous offer to Marner without knowing every single detail.

Do you honestly think the Leafs haven't offered him more money than say Nylander?
also marners contract history here..another important piece of information
 
I think we just consider Marner a rental and just go balls to the wall. We use our 10mil + 11 (JT) + 12 (Marner) and we retool.

Unfortunately Bennett is a Ferris client, hopefully we can nab a 2c, 2LW and another solid dman on July 1. We will be in a good position if so.
 
also marners contract history here..another important piece of information

Yep.

And ther e also been other reporting than beside the stuff that's come out the past 48H

The idea that all of a sudden all of Canada's hockey media has decided to make stuff up collectively about Marner and his current negotiations is nonsense
 
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