Mitch Marner (Trade or Keep)?

[Gary Nylund]

Basic math for the ill equipped. Salary cap will be at least 92mm by 25-26.
Do your cap percentages and project the steep rise up to 8 years later as every team does. It isn't really that hard despite your idiotic invective. They want him for 8 years, they will also service his dog with a canine whore every other day.

Uhuh.

 

[Maplebeasts]

Trade marner for Dubois 1st and prospect. We save some money on Dubois and get a little more physical.

That prospect better be McGroarty. Dubois is dipping as soon as he can and quits on his teams. You only trade Marner if you’re blowing the team up.

 

[Gary Nylund]

It's just business. I remember when Ricky Henderson signed one of baseballs biggest contracts at 3mm. Hockey is going through some pretty large growth now. 12mm is going to be nothing pretty soon.

Get back to me when 12mm is nothing.

Marner for nothing sounds good, Marner for 12mm though, not so good. Unless you're all about regular season this and that and don't GAF about the playoffs, that's not me though.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Barzal dor maner

 

[sittler rules!!!]

It’s not their fault theyre not knocking on the door. It’s not the type of players they are. For them to succeed they need more talent on the back end and some natural leaders around them.

"It's not their fault". They are paid to be the ones to lead and knock down that door!!!

 

[sittler rules!!!]

I voted trade but not because of his regular season play but playoff performances. Marner is probably one of the best leafs of all time but something needs to change and Nylander is a better goal scorer. Nylander contract demands could make me change my vote though. Bringing back the same 3, 11 million dollar players every year with the same failures doesn’t make sense imho. JT is not tradable and Matthews I’d keep over Marner that’s my reason for my vote.

Truth be told. I would move both 34 and 16. They are paid this amount to win Championships not regular season personal awards.
They have never delivered on the former, or came close. The JT signing was a horrible signing, especially since they ha their # 2 centre (Kadri) already. Signing Taveras indicated to the other two , "see, you can get paid for winning nothing"
Shake it up, rock the boat.

 

[Nineteen67]

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"It's not their fault". They are paid to be the ones to lead and knock down that door!!!

As a group that’s not who they are. Theyre too similar in how they play

 

[Nineteen67]

Truth be told. I would move both 34 and 16. They are paid this amount to win Championships not regular season personal awards.
They have never delivered on the former, or came close. The JT signing was a horrible signing, especially since they ha their # 2 centre (Kadri) already. Signing Taveras indicated to the other two , "see, you can get paid for winning nothing"
Shake it up, rock the boat.

I’d keep one of them.
I like a winning pedigree. Take your pick.

Marner won a Memorial Cup but didn’t win Gold at the WJHC
Matthews won U18 but nothing since.

But they need winners around them.

 

[Notsince67]

Get back to me when 12mm is nothing.

Marner for nothing sounds good, Marner for 12mm though, not so good. Unless you're all about regular season this and that and don't GAF about the playoffs, that's not me though.

Gary. We know this shtick. You will be licking marners ass by mid season. It's getting old.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Gary. We know this shtick. You will be licking marners ass by mid season. It's getting old.

You seem to be obsessed with nut licking and ass licking, what's up with that? I don't think this is the appropriate place to satisfy your obsessions so I suggest you try to keep it clean.

 

[Notsince67]

You seem to be obsessed with nut licking and ass licking, what's up with that? I don't think this is the appropriate place to satisfy your obsessions so I suggest you try to keep it clean.

Clutching your pearls again? Oh my. Nice deflection

 

[Gary Nylund]

Clutching your pearls again? Oh my. Nice deflection

If you can't keep it clean, I'm not wasting my time on you and your schoolyard nonsense.

 

[Guided by Veseys]

Clutching your pearls again? Oh my. Nice deflection

He’s right you know. I’ve seen post after post of yours attack anybody that devalues Marner. You come across as an extremely poor version of a human tbh. It’s entirely transparent behaviour and makes you look like a total clown. You are probably over 60 years old like 90% of the users here but you still have time to try and fix this obvious character flaw. Give it a try.

 

[1specter]

Gary. We know this shtick. You will be licking marners ass by mid season. It's getting old.

Going to be hard for Gary to access it when your mouth seems to be sewed onto his anus permanently.

 

[Yall are crazy]

Being rich isn't a flaw.

Being greedy is.

Marner was blasphemous in his contract negotiations. Even going so far as approach other teams in attempt to solicit an offer sheet. Hiding behind his daddy and agent while they aired dirty laundry in public.

Marner had a golden opportunity to endear himself to the fan base and instead chose to fight dirty.

So why should the fans and media be expected to do any different?

How's that possible when marner wasn't even involved in his own negotiations until 2 days before he signed the contract? You mean his dad and his agent and dreger. The ppl who actually had the words come out of their mouth.

 

[Notsince67]

If you can't keep it clean, I'm not wasting my time on you and your schoolyard nonsense.

That would be awesome. Stop responding to my posts

He’s right you know. I’ve seen post after post of yours attack anybody that devalues Marner. You come across as an extremely poor version of a human tbh. It’s entirely transparent behaviour and makes you look like a total clown. You are probably over 60 years old like 90% of the users here but you still have time to try and fix this obvious character flaw. Give it a try.

Easy there Freud. Your Marner hate clouds your reality

 

[Yall are crazy]

Trade Mitch for whatever and Matthews.. Roll with Tavares and O'Reilly as the 1+2 C's. Tired of this shit.

So just say you don't even want to win. You just want who you 2ant gone for the sake of it.

 

[Brobust]

What's the return?

 

[Yall are crazy]

Not my fault the Leafs can’t manage salaries and set cap. He was still a 20 goal scorer on the signing. Brutal take.
How many points/goals did Point,Rantanen,Draisaitl,Pastrnak,Aho,MacKinnon, etc. have vs. salary over the last 4/5 years?
Nobody made 10 mil.

They signed their contracts before the draft class of 2015 came in and ratanen wasn't producing like marner and matthews straight out the gate.

 

[Notsince67]

What's the return?

Realistic one that elicits the common reaction "LMAO...Marner would never return that...he is a looooser" or the typical hysterical flexing that insists he is a cap dump?

 

[Gary Nylund]

Easy there Freud. Your Marner hate clouds your reality

One doesn't need to be Freud to draw some conclusions from your posts. Like the man said - you still have time to try and fix this obvious character flaw. Give it a try.

Whenever I've seen you post about anything other than Marner, you seem like a reasonably intelligent person but whenever Marner is the subject of conversation, you become extremely rude and your IQ seems to dip by about 50%. It's not just me either, several people have noticed this and commented about it before so it's painfully obvious. I'm sure you can do better and I suggest you at least try. Or you can keep posting like someone who's have a rough time going through puberty, the choice is yours.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

One doesn't need to be Freud to see draw some conclusions from your posts. Like the man said - you still have time to try and fix this obvious character flaw. Give it a try.

Whenever I've seen you post about anything other than Marner, you seem like a reasonably intelligent person but whenever Marner is the subject of conversation, you become extremely rude and your IQ seems to dip by about 50%. It's not just me either, several people have noticed this and commented about it before so it's painfully obvious. I'm sure you can do better and I suggest you at least try. Or you can keep posting like someone who's have a rough time going through puberty, the choice is yours.

Come on Gary. It's just Paul being Paul!

 

[notDatsyuk]

It's just business. I remember when Ricky Henderson signed one of baseballs biggest contracts at 3mm. Hockey is going through some pretty large growth now. 12mm is going to be nothing pretty soon.

Good business is understanding that salaries need to rise when the economy does (and sports leagues have their own 'economy').

Bad business is spending too much of your budget (salary cap) on salesmen and therefore not being able to afford competent assembly-line workers.

 

[Arzak]

Basic math for the ill equipped. Salary cap will be at least 92mm by 25-26.
Do your cap percentages and project the steep rise up to 8 years later as every team does. It isn't really that hard despite your idiotic invective. They want him for 8 years, they will also service his dog with a canine whore every other day.

I'm glad we agreed, hence your pathetic attempt at diversion.

CAP can be 150, if Mitch Marner is the top-paid player in this league he is severely overpaid.

What exactly are you suggesting? MacKinnon, Pasta etc signed reasonable deals with cap raise in mind.

Paul, we saw this the last time around, remember when you predicted RFA is the new UFA? *


You just wait ! We'll overpay now and the league will follow the trend.


*spoiler alert it's not.

 

[notdoneyet]

Let’s say for shitz and giggles that Matthews signs for his reported 14 million

What do you think willy will want. Most on here are saying he is worth 8.5/9.5. Do you think willy is worth 5/6 million less than Matthews.

That my friend is the main crux of the problem. What will willy ask for