Player Discussion Mitch Marner - On Hiatus

[leafan11]

It’s a binary choice, you either sign him to an extension or you have to trade him in the offseason. I’d offer him the Willy contract (he won’t accept it) leak it to the media you offered it to him, and then make him the bad guy when you’re forced to trade him.

 

[Antropovsky]

There's not many wingers who can give 90-100 points and his level of defence.

There's a 1% chance he is traded. You have better odds marner figures out his playoff offence issue than to bet on being better without him.

.... he has 7 gwg against causing gafs in the last 4 postseasons, 6 in elimination games and 1 in the critical game 2 vs Florida! There have only been 5 series in that span.How can anyone brag about a players defense, if they are this pathetic in the biggest moments? He's literally almost single handedly crushed the Leafs because of his bad defense!

How many does Tavares and Matthews have?

 

[57 Years No Cup]

It’s a binary choice, you either sign him to an extension or you have to trade him in the offseason. I’d offer him the Willy contract (he won’t accept it) leak it to the media you offered it to him, and then make him the bad guy when you’re forced to trade him.

What if he does accept? Are you ready to accept 8 more years of playoff losing? No, it's time for change.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

I'm not on social media, and glad for it.........

Same. Hate all major social media platforms. They are universally awful.

 

[leafan11]

What if he does accept? Are you ready to accept 8 more years of playoff losing? No, it's time for change.

There’s 0.00000001% chance he accepts the Nylander deal.

 

[saffronleaf]

But it's literally the same comment over and over and over and over and over again. The obsession is more instructive than the topic, not you, but man this thread is the worst in garbage mob mentality. It's not about engagement, it's really more a sad study in follower group think. Marner isn't a bad person, a bad teammate, a coat tail riding fraud. Has he underachieved in the playoffs, absof***inglutely? Is his contract worth it? NO. Is the future contract problematic? Yes. Should they look at all options? For sure! Is this thread full of loser human beings I woundn't waste ten seconds hanging out with? You betcha.

Despite contributing to the problem and supporting trading Marner, I agree with you that the discourse re Marner has become unsavory and reflects poorly on those who have helped make it so

 

[HockeyVirus]

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Berube: did you pick your 10 teams like we said last time ?

First time I've ever seen Mitch go into a corner

 

[darrylsittler27]

Gretzky didn't have a NMC.

Some guy wants to give 99 to 1 odds he isnt gone by TD. I say Wayne Gretzky could have said no, he didnt though. If Marner wakes up one day and says I want out, he will be gone. Toronto is not guaranteed to re sign him.

 

[Mess]

I think the turning point in Marner's career with the Leafs was decided by management when we all saw this.

Nylander tells Marner “stop fkn crying” on the bench. Frustration is brewing for the Leafs.​

Marner tossing his gloves and getting called out by Nylander for his immature actions on the bench will be a moment that changed the Leafs future course.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

There's not many wingers who can give 90-100 points and his level of defence.

Now do goals in the playoffs

Then do game 7s

I think the turning point in Marner's career with the Leafs was decided by management when we all saw this.

Nylander tells Marner “stop fkn crying” on the bench. Frustration is brewing for the Leafs.​

Marner tossing his gloves and getting called out by Nylander for his immature actions on the bench will be a moment that changed the Leafs future course.

They are just using that as the justification.

They want to do it regardless of this.

First time I've ever seen Mitch go into a corner

Hahahhhahhhaahahahhhhaa

 

[Confucius]

It’s a binary choice, you either sign him to an extension or you have to trade him in the offseason. I’d offer him the Willy contract (he won’t accept it) leak it to the media you offered it to him, and then make him the bad guy when you’re forced to trade him.

lol and there is no wonder why he just give us the finger and stay one last year and we get nothing.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

lol and there is no wonder why he just give us the finger and stay one last year and we get nothing.

He himself wants to go.

It’s written all over his pouty face.

He also doesn’t have the balls to play and hold out.

And no one will accept he “wants to be a Leaf” going forward

 

[Arzak]

It’s a binary choice, you either sign him to an extension or you have to trade him in the offseason. I’d offer him the Willy contract (he won’t accept it) leak it to the media you offered it to him, and then make him the bad guy when you’re forced to trade him.

As long as we trade him at the end. $11.5M Mitch is not worth the money

 

[ACC1224]

Some guy wants to give 99 to 1 odds he isnt gone by TD. I say Wayne Gretzky could have said no, he didnt though. If Marner wakes up one day and says I want out, he will be gone. Toronto is not guaranteed to re sign him.

Gretzky didn't have a NMC so he couldn't have said 'no'.

yes if Marner asks to be traded, he would be and there is no guarantee he re-signs, those are all obvious things.
Not sure what someone giving odds has to do with Gretzky.

 

[darrylsittler27]

Gretzky didn't have a NMC so he couldn't have said 'no'.

yes if Marner asks to be traded, he would be and there is no guarantee he re-signs, those are all obvious things.
Not sure what someone giving odds has to do with Gretzky.

99 to 1

 

[Arzak]

In general I agree that pride and personal self-worth needs to become a factor.

But let's remember - we are talking about a player/camp that doesn't understand the concept of accountability, and has become very defensive at any hint of negativity, criticism, or him not being the golden child. His "shambles in the brains" likely prevents him from seeing the big picture here.

The more you think about it, his agent and family went for the most money, regardless of Mitch Marner. Everyone was eager for their share. Mitch seems like a good kid, not the brightest. It's not like we are talking about a player taking max and not giving a f*ck afterwards.

 

[Notsince67]

Who cares. That’s a problem with Leaf fans. Gotta have the better player. Look, we can’t win a round in the playoffs but our player is better. I don’t care if McDavid is better than Matthews or Nylander is better than Aho.
I want our team to be better.
When we can put together a core, build from the net out and start winning playoff rounds, that’s what matters.

Anyone who care about a thoughtful comment instead of specious grenades

 

[Darcy Tucker]

He himself wants to go.

It’s written all over his pouty face.

He also doesn’t have the balls to play and hold out.

And no one will accept he “wants to be a Leaf” going forward

Why is he having 1 on 1 meetings with the new coach if his plan is to find a new destination this summer? It looks like the plan is to let him play out his contract year under Berube and then see what happens.

 

[darrylsittler27]

What?

You said there is a one per cent chance. I say with it being Toronto, its way higher, like 51 per cent he is gone by TD.

 

[93gilmour93]

 

[ACC1224]

99 to 1

Is that suppose to be meaningful? Wilf Paiment was traded as well which has just as much bearing as Gretzky being traded.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

You said there is a one per cent chance. I say with it being Toronto, its way higher, like 51 per cent he is gone by TD.

I said no such thing. You're replying to the wrong guy.

 

[Notsince67]

Tkachuk may very well be better than Matthews, we should have no sacred cows and these little whataboutisms don’t serve our cause if we want the Toronto Maple Leafs to be better as a team.

At the end of the day, I have no time for Marner, and if Matthews doesn’t do the job in the coming years, I don’t time for him either. It’s about the Leafs.

You might not give a shit about Marner but a comment like yours isnt really well thought out. Good luck with your theory that Tkachuck is better than Matthews.

 

[keonsbitterness]

You said there is a one per cent chance. I say with it being Toronto, its way higher, like 51 per cent he is gone by TD.

Why would he agree to waive at the deadline instead of just riding out the next two months to UFA?

 

[darrylsittler27]

Is that suppose to be meaningful? Wilf Paiment was traded as well which has just as much bearing as Gretzky being traded.

Im here saying I think Marner is gone and that it isnt a one per cent chance. If Wayne can get traded the fact Marner has a NMC in no way means he wont be. Odds are its through his agent and then we sign and deliver him. I dont think Marner is set on staying or that Berube might want to go in another direction with this team. They need a backend way more than they need Marner.