Salary Cap: Mitch Marner Contract Discussion Part X | Will Mitch get an OS?

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moon111

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It would be fun to know, everything is going according to plan, and this whole thing was just a tactic they're using to freeze up the rest of the league's negotiations as everyone is waiting for Marner's contract before the rest of the dominoes fall.
 

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One thing I have to give massive props to Dubas about is the combined $6.6 million cap hit on Johnsson and Kapanen.

If you plug in Marner making $11 million and Nylander making $7 million that’s about $24.6 million spent on 4x wingers which works out to about $6.2 million per player.

If they’re productive at about a 90, 75 and 50, 50 odd pint pace that’s not too bad at all.

To me, it’s about a law of averages where you can drive down higher single salaries with a couple of value deals and he’s done just that here.
 
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Marner either signs for 6, 7 or 8 years. There us no other choice now.

Unless of course he would be willing to sign a 3yr bridge deal!!!!!! But nothing in between.

How about this Paul, let Marner sign a 6.816 million per 3yr bridge deal. Bet on yourself since your so convinced that he is a star. Come 3 yrs from now he can bank in.
Good lord he already bet on himself . Marner won the bet.
 

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wouldn't that be all those teams who are willing to offersheet him at 11?

if they don't exist why worry about it?
Just pay him 10.5 X 5 cuz that offer sheet is pretty likely . If you go into four pick territory I assume they go 7 years at something the leafs won't match
 

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Rantanen is the best RFA and Sakic will get him signed to a decent deal.
I think he’ll sign for 9.5 which means Marner gets 9.0 + 2 Toronto premium or he sits.
 

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Just pay him 10.5 X 5 cuz that offer sheet is pretty likely . If you go into four pick territory I assume they go 7 years at something the leafs won't match

We haven't seen any offersheet since ROR

That's over half a decade so no its not likely and if your offer sheeting anyone Aho, Point or one of the boys in Winnipeg make way more sense than Marner

If by some miracle he does get an offersheet and signs it is hope to God he's traded or we take the compensation

I can accept a lot out of one of our players but that level of mercenary behavior would really pushing it to the limit
 

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Just pay him 10.5 X 5 cuz that offer sheet is pretty likely . If you go into four pick territory I assume they go 7 years at something the leafs won't match

I wonder why not just outbid Sakic on Rantanen and have a 6'4" winger with similar offensive upside to play with Matthews and then send Marner packing and still have money left over.
 

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I wonder why not just outbid Sakic on Rantanen and have a 6'4" winger with similar offensive upside to play with Matthews and then send Marner packing and still have money left over.
Good luck outbidding the avs. Idk if you've seen your cap situations but I'd be more worried for the avs getting marner and rantanen
 

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We haven't seen any offersheet since ROR

That's over half a decade so no its not likely and if your offer sheeting anyone Aho, Point or one of the boys in Winnipeg make way more sense than Marner

If by some miracle he does get an offersheet and signs it is hope to God he's traded or we take the compensation

I can accept a lot out of one of our players but that level of mercenary behavior would really pushing it to the limit
I think all the teams match at the 10.5 X 5 comp for those players but if you don't wanna pay your players you're just risking it. I doubt anyone offers a 4 first comp tho.

Toronto fans have had 2 bad years of contract negotiations already so I get you're sick of it but dang who cares if he tries to get a fair contract
 

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I think all the banter is moot. Media creating hype as they are paid to do. Look logically, doesn't make sense for him to leave. Itll be a 2 year bridge or 6 or 7yrs. The bridge makes sense a lot...give him 8 to 9m on 2 yr deal then when we are out of cap hell give home a huge deal
 

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Rantanen is the best RFA and Sakic will get him signed to a decent deal.
I think he’ll sign for 9.5 which means Marner gets 9.0 + 2 Toronto premium or he sits.
Idk I think sakic pulls rantenan to an eight year deal which will prob cost 11.

If they had cap issues now I could see a 9.5 X 5 or something but it's better for them to overpay for a long term contact while they are cap rich
 

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I think all the teams match at the 10.5 X 5 comp for those players but if you don't wanna pay your players you're just risking it. I doubt anyone offers a 4 first comp tho.

Toronto fans have had 2 bad years of contract negotiations already so I get you're sick of it but dang who cares if he tries to get a fair contract

I can accept contensous negotiations, i can even accept negotiations through the media but once you sign an offersheet your on a whole other level

That's completely unacceptable and if history is any guide, if he does even if we match he's going to be traded somewhere down the line and I don't want that
 

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I can accept contensous negotiations, i can even accept negotiations through the media but once you sign an offersheet your on a whole other level

That's completely unacceptable and if history is any guide, if he does even if we match he's going to be traded somewhere down the line and I don't want that
Well they could just offer him the same deal without him signing the offer sheet ? I assume he would tell them the deal and see if they would give him something comparable to sign.

The threat of offersheets have been used for negotiations forever it's only when a player wants to leave or a team doesn't want to pay up they become an issue
 

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Well they could just offer him the same deal without him signing the offer sheet ? I assume he would tell them the deal and see if they would give him something comparable to sign.

The threat of offersheets have been used for negotiations forever it's only when a player wants to leave or a team doesn't want to pay up they become an issue

So? He signs one I hope like hell we trade him or take the compensation
Go play for someone else if you want to sign for them
 

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So? He signs one I hope like hell we trade him or take the compensation
Go play for someone else if you want to sign for them
He signs one you can't trade him for a year. But anyways why is it only one way ? If he gets bad offers from the leafs why shouldn't he sign one ?

I hope he accepts and wins the cup with whoever signs him .

If it's the leafs that sucks but maybe they will get some good karma for signing their home town star to a fair deal and I'll have to live with it.
 

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He signs one you can't trade him for a year. But anyways why is it only one way ? If he gets bad offers from the leafs why shouldn't he sign one ?

I hope he accepts and wins the cup with whoever signs him .

If it's the leafs that sucks but maybe they will get some good karma for signing their home town star to a fair deal and I'll have to live with it.

He can sign an offersheet, that's his right
It's also within our rights to trade him because of it

You see I'm a Leafs fan, if Marner wants to maximize his earnings that's up to him, if that means forcing his way out that's also up to him

He means less than nothing to me, he's an asset and we should treat him as such, business is business after all and I've got no problem waiving him goodbye
 

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He can sign an offersheet, that's his right
It's also within our rights to trade him because of it

You see I'm a Leafs fan, if Marner wants to maximize his earnings that's up to him, if that means forcing his way out that's also up to him

He means less than nothing to me, he's an asset and we should treat him as such, business is business after all and I've got no problem waiving him goodbye
You can trade him after a year otherwise it's your right to match or take compensation
 
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