Mitch “Magic” Marner Thread

[Antropovsky]

Didnt realize its been that long.

Hopefully he gets going now.

@Holymakinaw @DarkKnight comments?

 

[Ulysses31]

Lol at marner haters. PPG, being as good as he needs to be for a long playoff run= shit

EDIT: Mofos gonna eat crow when marner is the difrerence in future series

 

[ANDI P IS CUTE]

hes terrible, for that cap hit on top of that!

 

[ANDI P IS CUTE]

While I agree with most of the "Marner has to be better" mantra, he has rarely turned the puck over and is very good defensively. So I think what we are complaining about is his ability to be an impact player on offence... He is one of those guys who will always get his points, so that to me is not a driving factor on if he played well or not.

The two components above, plus his ability to have and distribute the puck and make those around him better is the package we expect. Right now he is not making anyone around him better 5-on-5... But he is far from a liability.

he doesnt get paid 10 million for only decent defense.

 

[Kiwi]

You people need to calm down

Marner hasn't been great by his high standards but the kids got game breaking abilities and that doesn't just disappear

He's doing a lot of donkey work which is helping us win games and I expect his offense will come around, he did just get the primary assist on the GWG today

 

[IPS]

I swear some of you genuinely want Marner to fail.

 

[koyvoo]

You people need to calm down

Marner hasn't been great by his high standards but the kids got game breaking abilities and that doesn't just disappear

He's doing a lot of donkey work which is helping us win games and I expect his offense will come around, he did just get the primary assist on the GWG today

It really is absurd. I just think people must not understand what they’re seeing, or are too wound up to see clearly and logically.

The pass was the game breaker. If you watch it closely, Carey Price is in a terrible position to make the save. The reason is because is Marner is one of the few players who, can draw the entire game toward him leaving huge gaps and lanes for others.

He’s the type of playmaker who can do this all night long, even though the opposition scouting report knows this full well and (try to) prepare against it. “Have only one guy chase him” they tell each other, while he continually fears the entire game toward him and and finds teammates in prime scoring chances areas, wide open.

It’s no shocker to those who understand that Mitch has had uber elite production with both of our to C’s, given both of those two C’s their career high goal production, but those two C’s didn’t do those things without to the same degree without him.

 

[ZEBROA]

He should be the second best player every game. When he is not he deserves some heat. Matthews should always be the best on ice. Thats not hate its just what we can and should expect. Nylander i expect to be fourth fifth best player. A step up now with Tavares gone.

 

[Atomos2]

You people need to calm down

Marner hasn't been great by his high standards but the kids got game breaking abilities and that doesn't just disappear

He's doing a lot of donkey work which is helping us win games and I expect his offense will come around, he did just get the primary assist on the GWG today

Well he's doing a job making it look like it has. He wanted Matthews money, so he has to take the responsibility that comes from it. Nice assist on the Rielly goal, but he has to be way better if the Leafs are to be successful because the offensive responsibility falls on him.

 

[Peasy]

Didnt realize its been that long.

Hopefully he gets going now.

That's bad... Especially with how much he's been playing. Is it really too much to ask for more production from a 11m player?

You're not making a deep run if he's producing that little 5 on 5.

 

[Atomos2]

Yea, this wasn't peak Marner, but I thought he played well if you just compare him to normal players and not his own past performance. Made lots of contributions.

And yea, his line in general wasn't clicking, which is not all on him.

But he’s not a normal player and he’s definitely not getting paid as a normal player.

 

[Holymakinaw]

@Holymakinaw @DarkKnight comments?

LOL. So what? He made a beauty pass and set up the winning goal. Be happy with that amazing play, instead of being totally negative. And like I already said, he's our leading point producer in the playoffs the last 5 years now. I couldn't care less if he ever scores a goal, as long as he sets them up like that.

Entitled much? Unless your players are scoring 50 goals and getting 150 points, they're just "not up to snuff" for you?

You are not deserving, Guy. You should get nothing but Antropov and Ponikarovsky and Aki Berg again, for decades.

 

[AndyWozniewski]

He hasn't been great, but we shouldn't lynch him based on 3 games. He's way too good of a player to not bounce back, and when he does, it'll be fun to see.

I would like to see him shoot more, as he keeps holding onto the puck in prime shooting areas.

 

[DarkKnight]

It really is absurd. I just think people must not understand what they’re seeing, or are too wound up to see clearly and logically.

The pass was the game breaker. If you watch it closely, Carey Price is in a terrible position to make the save. The reason is because is Marner is one of the few players who, can draw the entire game toward him leaving huge gaps and lanes for others.

Good insight, Price was so out of shape on that goal , half the net was wide open. Why? Because Mitch made a routine pass for him, quiet and on the tape, that most guys don’t even see. Price was lost there.

And here’s another point. Perhaps the ankle biters here can start slagging Keefe, because the guy apparently can’t get enough of Marner on the ice, he’s literally riding him harder than any other player, in every situation. I guess he doesn’t get it. Or maybe he does?

 

[al secord]

He doesn't get paid for the playoffs, so i don't blame him. It's just nice to see him show up for a pleasure skate, under the circumstances

 

[ZEBROA]

@Holymakinaw @DarkKnight comments?

Even if he got most points in the playoffs the last 5 years , thats not near good enough through that 13 game span.

It does not make anyone a hater for pointing that out. He should most nights be second best in effort 5v5.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

I hope he shakes the term Playoff Marner.

It looks bad. But he's not playing well enough to shake it so far

 

[Gallagbi]

Good insight, Price was so out of shape on that goal , half the net was wide open. Why? Because Mitch made a routine pass for him, quiet and on the tape, that most guys don’t even see. Price was lost there.

And here’s another point. Perhaps the ankle biters here can start slagging Keefe, because the guy apparently can’t get enough of Marner on the ice, he’s literally riding him harder than any other player, in every situation. I guess he doesn’t get it. Or maybe he does?

Keefes taking heat for how much focus he's put on Marner. Criticisms after Game 1 and criticisms for not getting Willy enough time on the PP, who is playing where Marner does. I also thought it was a mistake to keep Marner out the last 45 seconds. He can play in that situation, but not as much as he did last night and it showed in some lost battles that should have been clears.

I'm really happy he made a nice pass last night, I'd just like to see it more often with the situations were putting him in given how little offense he's driven.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Marner can be better but he's still making some plays.

He has helped set up the game winner in the last two games.

 

[Gallagbi]

It really is absurd. I just think people must not understand what they’re seeing, or are too wound up to see clearly and logically.

The pass was the game breaker. If you watch it closely, Carey Price is in a terrible position to make the save. The reason is because is Marner is one of the few players who, can draw the entire game toward him leaving huge gaps and lanes for others.

He’s the type of playmaker who can do this all night long, even though the opposition scouting report knows this full well and (try to) prepare against it. “Have only one guy chase him” they tell each other, while he continually fears the entire game toward him and and finds teammates in prime scoring chances areas, wide open.

It’s no shocker to those who understand that Mitch has had uber elite production with both of our to C’s, given both of those two C’s their career high goal production, but those two C’s didn’t do those things without to the same degree without him.

Price is out of position based on Rielly's pivot. He follows the puck over then bites on the pivot thinking it is going back to Hyman, which pulls him from proper position to the middle of the net.

 

[DarkKnight]

Keefes taking heat for how much focus he's put on Marner. Criticisms after Game 1 and criticisms for not getting Willy enough time on the PP, who is playing where Marner does. I also thought it was a mistake to keep Marner out the last 45 seconds. He can play in that situation, but not as much as he did last night and it showed in some lost battles that should have been clears.

I'm really happy he made a nice pass last night, I'd just like to see it more often with the situations were putting him in given how little offense he's driven.

So the last four shifts it was the Matthews line and they were gassed, then second line, then back to Matthews line without a whistle (I was surprised because they were tired), then the line went off but Marner was still on until the end. It was an incredible workload, so if he was losing battles, it is on the coach for over playing him. He was literally on the ice for 3 minutes the last 4 of the game 6 on 5.

As for Willie, why isn't he where Jumbo is, that's where he found his scoring touch last year on the PP, the JVR role. I don't get it at all, nor this dividing the time equally between PP1 and 2, other teams don't do and puts pressure on the first unit.

Nobody is saying Mitch has been fantastic, but he hasn't been near as bad as some argue. He was fantastic on that critical 4 minute PK, which could have set the tone for the game. He's doing lots of good things, just needs to settle down a bit on offence at times.

 

[Peasy]

So the last four shifts it was the Matthews line and they were gassed, then second line, then back to Matthews line without a whistle (I was surprised because they were tired), then the line went off but Marner was still on until the end. It was an incredible workload, so if he was losing battles, it is on the coach for over playing him. He was literally on the ice for 3 minutes the last 4 of the game 6 on 5.

As for Willie, why isn't he where Jumbo is, that's where he found his scoring touch last year on the PP, the JVR role. I don't get it at all, nor this dividing the time equally between PP1 and 2, other teams don't do and puts pressure on the first unit.

Nobody is saying Mitch has been fantastic, but he hasn't been near as bad as some argue. He was fantastic on that critical 4 minute PK, which could have set the tone for the game. He's doing lots of good things, just needs to settle down a bit on offence at times.

Completely agree. I really feel like Keefe has been grinding Marner a bit to much. You can visibly see him gassed some shifts (not his fault) and that results in really poor battles. Like for example when the net was empty Marner made a great play and nearly stripped Weber of the puck but Weber was able to hold the line because Marner was just gassed. If he had some more energy for that shift it likely results in an empty net. Especially with a b2b, I see even less reason to grind him this much.

Don't even get me started on the PP because its such a mess. What even is the strategy for the first PP unit? Its so predictable with only one person being a shooting threat...

 

[Garthinater]

@Holymakinaw @DarkKnight comments?

Whats wrong with secondary points or points on the pp?

Do they not count?

 

[DarkKnight]

Whats wrong with secondary points or points on the pp?

Do they not count?

You'll note it's the same crowd who were complaining about the guy when it was all primary assists and NO PP points this season. I mean. It's just a moving target to find somewhere to stick it to him.

 

[Gallagbi]

So the last four shifts it was the Matthews line and they were gassed, then second line, then back to Matthews line without a whistle (I was surprised because they were tired), then the line went off but Marner was still on until the end. It was an incredible workload, so if he was losing battles, it is on the coach for over playing him. He was literally on the ice for 3 minutes the last 4 of the game 6 on 5.

I'm agreeing, he was overplayed in the final few minutes last night like he was overplayed in Game 1. Both were poor choices.

As for Willie, why isn't he where Jumbo is, that's where he found his scoring touch last year on the PP, the JVR role. I don't get it at all, nor this dividing the time equally between PP1 and 2, other teams don't do and puts pressure on the first unit.

Hyman is in the Jvr spot, Joe is the bumper. I don't think we've ever had a righty bumper.

Nobody is saying Mitch has been fantastic, but he hasn't been near as bad as some argue. He was fantastic on that critical 4 minute PK, which could have set the tone for the game. He's doing lots of good things, just needs to settle down a bit on offence at times.

He's been a contributor instead of a driver. He has another level or two that we should be expecting.