Miscellaneous NHL Discussion XCV: Second Round

[DancingPanther]

I hate this stupid f***ing team

 

[CutOnDime97]

 

[DancingPanther]

Briere's first move should be to trade Hart to his hometown Oilers about five days from now.

Been saying this for months bro

Vegas is horseshit. f*** them and their stupid f***ing fans

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

What a dumb penalty

Way to put your team in horrible spot

5 min PP for Oilers

 

[CutOnDime97]

 

[Tripod]

Tavares has been such a non entity for Leafs. But then again he is both slow and offense only player to begin with. Can't really expect from him to be a difference maker.

And yet he has been a 81 point guy per 82 games as a Leaf.

 

[DancingPanther]

Who the f*** is Kolasar?

 

[FLYguy3911]

Ceci on the PP in the playoffs? Wtf?

Can’t see him making it past Chicago’s second pick.

Bedard's best bud too.

 

[DancingPanther]

Vegas fans cheering their team for...not giving up 2 goals on the pp? What

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Good to see Jack Eichel beating “can’t win with him” allegations these playoffs.

 

[DancingPanther]

McDavid really needs to play better defensively

 

[DancingPanther]

Holy f*** I hate Vegas

 

[Beef Invictus]

Haha Nick Cousins assisted by Radko Gudas!! Unreal. Gudas grabbed the defensemens stick too. Got away with one for sure.

We will hear of it for decades to come

 

[Beef Invictus]

The Leafs lost the series and others years ago when they signed Tavares to a contract that they really couldn’t afford. It threw their roster into cap hell with other forwards then demanding crazy money leaving little cash left over for better players across the lineup. They lack the depth necessary to win tough series. At least they know that they did it to themselves.

Tavares is really good but he absolutely isn't 2 mil away from being McDavid.

 

[Striiker]

Looking at the teams left and I can’t help but notice that they’re not all old “storied” franchises with large pockets and egos.

They’re smaller market teams and new teams who need to be smart instead of stubborn and wasteful.

What a weird coincidence.

 

[Starat327]

Tavares is really good but he absolutely isn't 2 mil away from being McDavid.

In fairness, McDacid is worth, I believe, about 6Mm more than his cap hit ( I believe @JojoTheWhale has something hes linked prior) in terms of pure on ice impact compared to his peers. It's just the cap limit ( and McDavid raking a few hundred K less than "max" ) preventing him from getting there. McDavid is is easily a 15-20MM AAV player in terms of on and off ice impact if there isn't a limit on contracts.

 

[GapToothedWonder]

old “storied” franchises

 

[deadhead]

And yet he has been a 81 point guy per 82 games as a Leaf.

PO with Toronto
30g 11-10 21 -10 (9-6 15 at ES)

It's not awful until you factor in his salary, he's not being paid like a 2nd line forward.

 

[Deadpool8812]

It's funny because, after the Leafs beat Tampa, their fanbase immediately believed that meant they were winning the Cup. Their big stars, especially Matthews, MIA when it mattered.

I still believe that signing Tavares was their downfall. With their roster, adding a $11m player f***ed their depth.

Wonder what moves they'll make. If they fire Dubas, it would have been a good idea to hire him here in some capacity. I think I would have preferred him as GM and Briere as PoHO

 

[kudymen]

ROFL

I love how the synopsis of page 29 goes: “I was right about him who he is and the Flyers don’t have any use for him. The Flyers gave up significant assets to get rid of and replace him but that doesn’t matter, already happened. We don’t need him because his expensive replacements are more talented, talented doesn’t mean better but unfortunately talented and brain dead. So that is why we don’t need Gostisbehere”

 

[mja]

I love how the synopsis of page 29 goes: “I was right about him who he is and the Flyers don’t have any use for him. The Flyers gave up significant assets to get rid of and replace him but that doesn’t matter, already happened. We don’t need him because his expensive replacements are more talented, talented doesn’t mean better but unfortunately talented and brain dead. So that is why we don’t need Gostisbehere”

There really isn't any point in engaging with him. He's so intellectually dishonest that a reasonable discussion simply can't be had.

 

[kudymen]

There really isn't any point in engaging with him. He's so intellectually dishonest that a reasonable discussion simply can't be had.

But it’s always nice to put the whole dishonesty into writing simply because supposedly “the internet reveals character”

 

[BiggE]

No Rags, no Leafs, no Bruins, no Devils. All is well.

 

[GKJ]

The Leafs lost the series and others years ago when they signed Tavares to a contract that they really couldn’t afford. It threw their roster into cap hell with other forwards then demanding crazy money leaving little cash left over for better players across the lineup. They lack the depth necessary to win tough series. At least they know that they did it to themselves.

That’s not really true, they have constantly added to their depth at the trade deadlines over the years, often giving up high draft picks to do it. They’ve had to be more frugal in other areas, but they’ve also gotten guys to go there for less.

 

[TCTC]

Dubas has tried everything at this point except changing the core. He's brought in veteran depth players, he's added grit to the lineup, he's changed goalies, but the core stayed the same.

If he gets another chance, which he shouldn't, firing the coach and trading core players is all he can do at this point.