Miscellaneous NHL Discussion XCIX: We're Gonna Party Like It's 99

[blackjackmulligan]

Always liked and defended Schenn when he was here.

Another example of a guy who was never used properly, then produced better as soon as he left.

who are the others? look on the bright side they have Morgan frost.

 

[Beef Invictus]

who are the others? look on the bright side they have Morgan frost.

Ghost, PEB, Hartman, Voracek, Giroux, Hartnell, Maroon, NAK all leap to mind immediately. We can probably think of more.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I think Babcock should have to look through @Surrounded By Ahos and my phones. That will teach him.

 

[deadhead]

So they explained part of Babcock’s method is doing this phone thing with everybody included even people in the front office that’s part of his manipulation & to give himself cover. For the guys he feels is on equal footing or even superior to him it is innocent & friendly like it sounds. But for people lower than him it’s a way for him to gather intel so he can exert his dominance over the player.

Biz said his friend in Toronto for example when he first met Babcock there his face to face meeting Babcock just took his phone out of his hand. He didn’t ask or anything & eventually found party pictures on it. To which I guess Babcock in his mind surmised this guy didn’t care enough about hockey so he just rode the guy until the guy just asked to get traded wherever. That was essentially an easy to get rid of the player I guess in Babcock’s mind.

So they said that’s probably why Jenner & Gaudreau said what they said because they got the pleasant/friendly version of that shtick.

Biz made it sound after the podcast more players were willingly to speak up which I guess led to the NHLPA investigation. He said the investigation reviled more stuff that they didn’t even know.

The weird thing is he could probably have someone quietly examine their social media sites.
Instead taking the phone from someone to look it over is about as confrontational as it gets.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

The weird thing is he could probably have someone quietly examine their social media sites.
Instead taking the phone from someone to look it over is about as confrontational as it gets.

…that’s the point.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Whitney also said for people who want to go on rants complaining about the younger generation can’t take it they weren’t even the ones who sounded the alarm on this situation. It was from former players of the previous generation. These young players were going to keep their mouths shut & take it if this story never got out.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

I think Babcock should have to look through @Surrounded By Ahos and my phones. That will teach him.

It's true. Ever since I got bef's phone number, I've seen shit that'll turn you white.

 

[freakydallas13]

…that’s the point.

Exactly. A feature, not a bug.

 

[wankstifier]

It's true. Ever since I got bef's phone number, I've seen shit that'll turn you white.

Hunting for deals?

 

[Striiker]

He even says that what Torts wants is more hitting and fighting

But I guess someone who was in the locker room and interacted with Torts is wrong too. Only Torts groupies know what he really wants.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

Ghost, PEB, Hartman, Voracek, Giroux, Hartnell, Maroon, NAK all leap to mind immediately. We can probably think of more.

Patrick sharp, Justin Williams, joni pitkanen, there's been quite a few unfortunately

 

[Deadpool8812]

Ghost, PEB, Hartman, Voracek, Giroux, Hartnell, Maroon, NAK all leap to mind immediately. We can probably think of more.

Couturier, while he hasn't left, is another one that wasn't used properly until he and Giroux said something

 

[PALE PWNR]

$10 on Lupul.

Imagine looking through Carter Richards and upshalls phones back when he was here too lmao

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Ghost, PEB, Hartman, Voracek, Giroux, Hartnell, Maroon, NAK all leap to mind immediately. We can probably think of more.

of that list Ghost is really the only one.
Clode was good here good after he left.
PEB solid here solid when he left
Hartman good stuff. I am sure you didn't like him when he was here and didn't say a peep when he was let go. Probably hated the trade as well. Late bloomer not going to give the flyers flack on that.
Hartnell good here good after he left
Maroon lol. Guess none of the circumstances on why he was traded factor into it.
NAK, NAK rules. Was wondering when he would be mentioned again in a thread

So out of all those only 1 fits the criteria of who produced after they left.

 

[DancingPanther]

I would want Babcock to be deeply uncomfortable with the amount of dog photos on my phone.

Babcock would kick me off the team for not being tough enough with all the pictures of dogs and plants on mine

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Patrick sharp, Justin Williams, joni pitkanen, there's been quite a few unfortunately

Williams and joni were hockey trades. They were not thrown away so to speak.

 

[DancingPanther]

So they explained part of Babcock’s method is doing this phone thing with everybody included even people in the front office that’s part of his manipulation & to give himself cover. For the guys he feels is on equal footing or even superior to him it is innocent & friendly like it sounds. But for people lower than him it’s a way for him to gather intel so he can exert his dominance over the player.

Biz said his friend in Toronto for example when he first met Babcock there his face to face meeting Babcock just took his phone out of his hand. He didn’t ask or anything & eventually found party pictures on it. To which I guess Babcock in his mind surmised this guy didn’t care enough about hockey so he just rode the guy until the guy just asked to get traded wherever. That was essentially an easy to get rid of the player I guess in Babcock’s mind.

So they said that’s probably why Jenner & Gaudreau said what they said because they got the pleasant/friendly version of that shtick.

Biz made it sound after the podcast more players were willingly to speak up which I guess led to the NHLPA investigation. He said the investigation reviled more stuff that they didn’t even know.

What a f***ing freak

Was this original story dropped on the pod? Which ep?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

What a f***ing freak

Was this original story dropped on the pod? Which ep?

It’s on the one that came out yesterday.

 

[renberg]

He even says that what Torts wants is more hitting and fighting

But I guess someone who was in the locker room and interacted with Torts is wrong too. Only Torts groupies know what he really wants.

Hayes forgets to mention that he's slowed down and can't keep up with the game well enough to play center. He was a liability in open ice. Never could handle FOs very well and rarely saw a pass to make that he didn't want to turn down.
Torts was willing to use him on the wing but Hayes didn't want to play that position. When a guy doesn't want to pay where a coach wants to use them, they don't get on the ice.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Hayes forgets to mention that he's slowed down and can't keep up with the game well enough to play center. He was a liability in open ice. Never could handle FOs very well and rarely saw a pass to make that he didn't want to turn down.
Torts was willing to use him on the wing but Hayes didn't want to play that position. When a guy doesn't want to pay where a coach wants to use them, they don't get on the ice.

doesn't fit the coach is a monster, jerkoff, and everything in between narrative.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Literally not a single person here is defending Hayes. They're pointing out that contrary to manifestos that have been written (but not read) Torts focuses on fighting and hitting.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

Williams and joni were hockey trades. They were not thrown away so to speak.

Still did better away than they did here which is the point I was making lol

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

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Hunting for deals?

No lie sometimes I get the urge to bleach my eyes after looking at the stuff he sends me.

 

[Tripod]

Hayes forgets to mention that he's slowed down and can't keep up with the game well enough to play center. He was a liability in open ice. Never could handle FOs very well and rarely saw a pass to make that he didn't want to turn down.
Torts was willing to use him on the wing but Hayes didn't want to play that position. When a guy doesn't want to pay where a coach wants to use them, they don't get on the ice.

That same smart coach who keeps putting out 2 D and 1 F in OT despite always losing?

 

[Rebels57]

That same smart coach who keeps putting out 2 D and 1 F in OT despite always losing?

Helped us get Michkov last year by costing us many points. 4D Chess.