Miscellaneous NHL Discussion XC: Stoppage Time Not Required

[flyerslducks]

On the topic of why teams have trouble defending leads. An interesting answer by Yzerman to what could've been a HockeyGuy™ softball question: they're not structured enough, blah blah, effort, blah blah, poor fundamentals, blah blah, youth.

He said the offense in this league has evolved so much that the defense is having trouble adjusting. It's a transitionary point in the league. How aggressive defensemen are in pinching, the tightness of forechecks, the positional fluidity in switching, emphasis on possession. To quote: "The offensive side of coaching has overtaken the defensive side." This feels obvious.....but yes!

Besides the thought I'd die laughing listening to Fletcher discuss anything philosophical about hockey, this 2 minute interview might as well be putting the Flyers on blast. We have a GM who flagellates himself anytime the topic of offense comes up -- you'd never guess the Flyers score the fewest goals/game with the worst PP. The offense has overtaken the defense, so emphasize only defense -- and an outdated definition of defense? Hire a coach who openly says he is next to useless in offensive strategies, when the offensive side of coaching is tantamount? It's not news to us the Flyers are a backward organization, but it's nice when other GMs spell out how much.

Jeez I wish he kept going lol. The Whole time he was talking I couldn’t help but compare what he said to what we do. It’s just the complete opposite. I wonder when we will transition to this style, if ever. We need to start drsfting players that fit this mold, especially on defense. We need the minty, zellweger, Hughes type defensemen badly

 

[Beef Invictus]

On the topic of why teams have trouble defending leads. An interesting answer by Yzerman to what could've been a HockeyGuy™ softball question: they're not structured enough, blah blah, effort, blah blah, poor fundamentals, blah blah, youth.

He said the offense in this league has evolved so much that the defense is having trouble adjusting. It's a transitionary point in the league. How aggressive defensemen are in pinching, the tightness of forechecks, the positional fluidity in switching, emphasis on possession. To quote: "The offensive side of coaching has overtaken the defensive side." This feels obvious.....but yes!

Besides the thought I'd die laughing listening to Fletcher discuss anything philosophical about hockey, this 2 minute interview might as well be putting the Flyers on blast. We have a GM who flagellates himself anytime the topic of offense comes up -- you'd never guess the Flyers score the fewest goals/game with the worst PP. The offense has overtaken the defense, so emphasize only defense -- and an outdated definition of defense? Hire a coach who openly says he is next to useless in offensive strategies, when the offensive side of coaching is tantamount? It's not news to us the Flyers are a backward organization, but it's nice when other GMs spell out how much.

And we are stuck watching Fletcher and Flahr and Tortorella trying to bring back 2012.

All that offensive pressure? The effective dman activation? That requires putting pucks away from the boards. And not a single person running the Flyers can ponder that without having their brains flash-boil.

It's also the most disappointing/frustrating thing about Hakstol. Back when he was hired, he talked about doing this stuff. He talked a big game that spelled out what would really blatantly be a huge step forward and a great means of shattering the defensive side of the game as it existed then. I was very excited for it. But then when it came time to execute the Big Talk, he did just about the exact opposite of what he preached. Even while having the appropriate talent to make it happen! In fact, that was the kind of player he wanted the least.

If people managing the Flyers had discovered germs in the 19th century, they'd have addressed that issue by coating their hands in feces before performing surgery instead of following through on the clear obvious path.

 

[Strawberry Fields]

Yeah, it never seems to be the person who’s actually getting insulted that makes a big fuss about stuff like this. It’s always other random people getting worked up on their behalf.

Shit, I’ve been called 1000000x worse just today while playing Call of Duty and all it did was make me smile.

Really it's a half step up from being heckled by some random fan in the stands. Given that it's Edwards it might actually just be on that same level, lol.

 

[Curufinwe]

I saw Jack Edwards' face for the first time in a while recently, and he looked ghastly.

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

Most likely he’ll be put on blood thinners for a while. Can’t see him playing while that’s happening.
There also was a report that he has a hole in his heart. If that’s true and needs attention, he’s going to be out for a while.

He should just effing retire. There's nothing more to be achieved and also don't you want to enjoy the money you made while your brain hasn't turned into mush yet.

 

[Don Nachbaur 26]

He should just effing retire. There's nothing more to be achieved and also don't you want to enjoy the money you made while your brain hasn't turned into mush yet.

Can't believve Hextall signed him to that extension, at that age and with the injury history. He should've chased his agent around like Rob Brown when he got the first contract proposal. Scare him a little.

 

[Magua]

I assume Kev was an honorary mention.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

I assume Kev was an honorary mention.

How far down does the list go?

 

[BigToe]

I assume Kev was an honorary mention.

McDavid that far down bothers me

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Jordan Binnington was credited with a hit tonight. Only the 4th goalie to be given a hit stat.

 

[Cody Webster]

Jordan Binnington was credited with a hit tonight. Only the 4th goalie to be given a hit stat.

Man, brings back memories. I remember back in college, we were losing like 6-1 to the top team in the league; they hadn't lost a league game in a couple years. I was pissed off, and they dumped the puck into the corner. I waited to go out and play the puck and timed it perfectly so that I absolutely laid out their forward that went after the puck. No one knew what to do because it was technically it clean it, he played the puck. It was great moment lol.

 

[flyerslducks]

Jordan Binnington was credited with a hit tonight. Only the 4th goalie to be given a hit stat.

He got laid out too lol

I assume Kev was an honorary mention.

And…he gets a hat trick lol

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Man, brings back memories. I remember back in college, we were losing like 6-1 to the top team in the league; they hadn't lost a league game in a couple years. I was pissed off, and they dumped the puck into the corner. I waited to go out and play the puck and timed it perfectly so that I absolutely laid out their forward that went after the puck. No one knew what to do because it was technically it clean it, he played the puck. It was great moment lol.

This reminds me of my last soccer game I ever played. I was the goalie and playing in a tournament where we had legitimately 8 kids because it was during some holiday week. The other team had twenty.

We got lit up and every time I made a save one of their players would come in spikes high while sliding near me as I gathered the ball.

I appealed to the ref and said to do something about it. He didn’t.

Last few minutes of the game a ball rolled to me I went to grab it moving away from my net and saw the kid coming in to do the same shit so I used my momentum to drive my shoulder into the guys head and launch myself.

I got a red card. My coach made us all walk off the field because the ref wasn’t protecting me.

 

[Cody Webster]

This reminds me of my last soccer game I ever played. I was the goalie and playing in a tournament where we had legitimately 8 kids because it was during some holiday week. The other team had twenty.

We got lit up and every time I made a save one of their players would come in spikes high while sliding near me as I gathered the ball.

I appealed to the ref and said to do something about it. He didn’t.

Last few minutes of the game a ball rolled to me I went to grab it moving away from my net and saw the kid coming in to do the same shit so I used my momentum to drive my shoulder into the guys head and launch myself.

I got a red card. My coach made us all walk off the field because the ref wasn’t protecting me.

Being a goalie and doing dick things like this was great

 

[flyerslducks]

Coyotes have more creativity than we do. I cannot fathom why we NEVER did this…

Ghost and chychrun on pp1. Ghost is at the point and chychrun on the right for those one timers. I don’t know why we never had ghost in that spot just unleashing one timers..he has the best slapper on a team that desperately needed more shooting in their pp.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

He got laid out too lol


And…he gets a hat trick lol

Any day now the leak will come out that the scouts wanted Robertson over Ratcliffe and Hextall didn’t listen.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Coyotes have more creativity than we do. I cannot fathom why we NEVER did this…

Ghost and chychrun on pp1. Ghost is at the point and chychrun on the right for those one timers. I don’t know why we never had ghost in that spot just unleashing one timers..he has the best slapper on a team that desperately needed more shooting in their pp.

phhhfffttt.... didnt you hear. hes clearly not a nhl player cuz not 1 gm wanted him..

LOOOLL..

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Jordan Binnington was credited with a hit tonight. Only the 4th goalie to be given a hit stat.

He got laid out too lol

The ‘hit’ in question:




If you attempt to hit a Canes forward, as a goalie, you might want to not pick the 230 pound sod farm boy.

 

[Magua]

TIL: Eric Staal is on the Panthers. When did this happen?

 

[flyerslducks]

The ‘hit’ in question:




If you attempt to hit a Canes forward, as a goalie, you might want to not pick the 230 pound sod farm boy.

Lol idk what buchnevich was dojng when staal scored the EN. I was shocked it was that easy for staal haha

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Lol idk what buchnevich was dojng when staal scored the EN. I was shocked it was that was for staal haha

lol yeah I was not expecting that kind of move from Staal. Dude has hands of stone 97% of the time, but somehow just deked his way around Buchnevich.

Ya love ta see it.

 

[Strawberry Fields]

Today I learned there was a short series of comics in the 90s in which Brett Hull is knocked out during a game and transported 100 years into the future to help the Blues beat a team of cyborgs for the 2094 Stanley Cup

 

[DancingPanther]

I assume Kev was an honorary mention.

McDavid out of the top 5 (read also: 2) lol

 

[Beef Invictus]

TIL: Eric Staal is on the Panthers. When did this happen?

When they signed him. Started with a PTO actually



We give PTOs to Stewarts and Anisimovs

 

[BernieParent]

When they signed him. Started with a PTO actually



We give PTOs to Stewarts and Anisimovs

Those moves make good sense, Beef. Wait a minute, PTO stands for Play The Oldies, right?