Miscellaneous NHL Discussion LXXXVI: 86 Proof

[Curufinwe]

I must have missed that Miles Wood missed almost the whole season after a hip injury in preseason.

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Appleton - 21 P in 58 GP
Bear - 14 P in 58 GP
Bratt - 73 P in 76 GP
Crouse - 34 P in 65 GP
Geekie - 22 P in 73 GP
Joseph - 30 P in 69 GP
Kapanen - 32 P in 79 GP
Kolesar - 24 P in 77 GP
Kylington - 31 P in 73 GP
Lajoie - 0 P in 5 GP
Lorentz - 13 P in 67 GP
Lundestrom - 29 P in 80 GP
MacEwen - 9 P in 75 GP
Mangiapane - 55 P in 82 GP
Phllips - No NHL games (68 P in 65 AHL games)
Puljujarvi - 36 P in 65 GP
Thompson - 0 P in 2 GP
Tkachuk - 104 P in 82 GP
Trenin - 24 P in 80 GP
Walman - 10 P in 51 GP
Wood - 0 P in 3 GP
Yamamoto - 41 P in 81 GP
Zacha - 36 P in 70 GP

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Pacioretty has durability concerns, and has 2 years left at $7M at 34 years old.

"Jesse Granger, Golden Knights beat writer: I don’t think the Golden Knights viewed Pacioretty as expendable, but they backed themselves into a corner against the salary cap and were forced to make a painful subtraction in order to get out of it. Perhaps Vegas felt Pacioretty wouldn’t remain healthy enough to live up to his $7 million cap hit, considering he’s battled multiple injuries over the last several years and played in only 39 games last season."

Uh, no he doesn't.

 

[Curufinwe]

Actually, they tried to resign him, but didn't want to pay his price.

They are on the hook for a higher AAV and more term to 37 year old Brent Burns than DeAngelo got in Philly. And they had to trade assets to get Burns.

 

[wankstifier]

Size, Minnesota connection, low term/AAV. What happened, Chuck?

 

[deadhead]

They are paying more money and more term to 37 year old Brent Burns. And they had to trade assets to get Burns.

They're also in "win now" mode.

Burns played 26 minutes a night the last two seasons, so they figure he's unlikely to break down in the near future. In fact, 2020-21 is the only season in the last 8 where he missed a game. So he's obviously an outlier.

He'll probably play 20-22 minutes a night in Carolina with Slavin (23:32), Pesce (21:42), and Skjei (21:09) rounding out the top four.

Uh, no he doesn't.

My bad, I believed what I read on a Vegas site instead of checking Cap Friendly.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Size, Minnesota connection, low term/AAV. What happened, Chuck?

chucks moneybag is empty..

#feelsbadman

 

[Curufinwe]

They think paying 37 year old Brent Burns 3 x $5.28m is better than paying 27 year old Tony DeAngelo 2 x $5m.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

It’s almost like Carolina is the best front office in the league & doesn’t box themselves into picking a “win now” or “future” mode at once.

They didn’t box themselves into a corner where they had to bring back certain players regardless of contract demand & they still found better players on better contract fits.

The opposite of somebody else I know.

 

[deadhead]

They think paying 37 year old Brent Burns 3 x $5.28m is better than paying 27 year old Tony DeAngelo 2 x $5m.

Would you have paid 37 year old Pronger that money if he missed 6 games over the previous 8 years and played 26 minutes a night?

We're not talking a typical 37 year old player.

A good gamble for a team in "win now" mode.

 

[DancingPanther]

What's in the water in Calgary? Why does no one want to stay?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Burns can still play. I’d imagine Carolina will leverage his strengths & minimize his weaknesses better than most at this point. Obviously he’ll be going from a bad team to a good team.

Carolina minimized the caphit under $6M for Burns. Even if he does fall off in another year or so I’d have confidence in Carolina’s current management to get rid of that contract with minimal damage.

 

[Starat327]

Burns can still play. I’d imagine Carolina will leverage his strengths & minimize his weaknesses better than most at this point. Obviously he’ll be going from a bad team to a good team.

Carolina minimized the caphit under $6M for Burns. Even if he does fall off in another year or so I’d have confidence in Carolina’s current management to get rid of that contract with minimal damage.

Chuck will need to add to his stable of Not Good Defensively RHDs, so Burns will fit that bill what that happens.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Burns is better dman than Tony D. Easy choice if that is the 2 options.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

What's in the water in Calgary? Why does no one want to stay?

@Beef Invictus

 

[DancingPanther]

@Beef Invictus

I'm being serious btw I don't have my finger on the pulse of the NHL right now. Apathy and all that

 

[deadhead]

What's in the water in Calgary? Why does no one want to stay?

Well, if you moved Denver to North Dakota, I suspect it would be a much smaller city.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I'm being serious btw I don't have my finger on the pulse of the NHL right now. Apathy and all that

Canadian Dollar (I know they're paid in USD)? Canada? Rumors of them messing around with Gaudreau during his last contract negotiation? It could be anything, obviously.

The two main players that are leaving town are Americans so I can't help but think that probably plays a role in it. I know very little about Calgary but it doesn't exactly scream destination to me as an American.

 

[DancingPanther]

Canadian Dollar (I know they're paid in USD)? Canada? Rumors of them messing around with Gaudreau during his last contract negotiation? It could be anything, obviously.

The two main players that are leaving town are Americans so I can't help but think that probably plays a role in it. I know very little about Calgary but it doesn't exactly scream destination to me as an American.

Oh I see I was thinking there was some magnitude of turmoil that I was missing or something. Not every day the 2 best players on a pretty good team jump ship

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I'm being serious btw I don't have my finger on the pulse of the NHL right now. Apathy and all that

I think those rural Canadian cities like Calgary, Edmonton, & Winnipeg generally poll poorly in those player polls for most desired city in the league. I think Canada in general gets dinged for being a fishbowl with the fans & media there compared to the States.

Calgary’s going to be bad with Gaudreau so those perceived drawbacks with the off ice situation gets magnified.

I’m not trying to take shots here at those places but it’s fair to say it’s not for everybody. In Gaudreau & Tkachuk you have two American players from the Philadelphia & St. Louis metro areas respectively. That’s a far way home for both of those guys. The cultures are noticeably pretty different.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I'm being serious btw I don't have my finger on the pulse of the NHL right now. Apathy and all that

Calgary is a gulag.

 

[DancingPanther]

I think those rural Canadian cities like Calgary, Edmonton, & Winnipeg generally poll poorly in those player polls for most desired city in the league. I think Canada in general gets dinged for being a fishbowl with the fans & media there compared to the States.

Calgary’s going to be bad with Gaudreau so those perceived drawbacks with the off ice situation gets magnified.

I’m not trying to take shots here at those places but it’s fair to say it’s not for everybody. In Gaudreau & Tkachuk you have two American players from the Philadelphia & St. Louis metro areas respectively. That’s a far way home for both of those guys. The cultures are noticeably pretty different.

Yes sir- completely understood. Like I said I didn't know if there was drama or not. Brutal for flames fans though sheesh

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Yes sir- completely understood. Like I said I didn't know if there was drama or not. Brutal for flames fans though sheesh

Yeah it sounds Tkachuk would like to most preferably play for his hometown team in the Blues just like Gaudreau did with the Flyers. Whether that happens or not who knows.

 

[Starat327]

I understand that lawyers have to sometimes do some dirty work for their clients because that's their job, but this goes way beyond that. This is actually despicable. Like, no human should have to be subjected to this.

 

[Sombastate]

What's in the water in Calgary? Why does no one want to stay?

its without a doubt their Canadian Anthem Singer. I'd want to leave too

 

[ajgoal]

its without a doubt their Canadian Anthem Singer. I'd want to leave too

But Johnny wanted to come to Philly.