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CutOnDime97

Michkov to Misa
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Friedman said he bet that sequence got all the nipples hard in the Detroit management suite. :laugh:
Should have hit with the "too small"

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deadhead

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Flyer fans love to whine, but imagine if you're a Preds fan.
99 points last year, so they add Stamkos, Marchessault and Skjei.

1-5-2 (beat the Blackhawks 3-2)
Forsberg (30) 4x8.5
Stamkos (34) 4x8
Marchessault (33) 4x5.5
ROR (33) 3x4.5
Josi (34) 4x9
Skjei (30) 4x7
L Schenn (34) 2x2.75
Saros (29) 8x7.75 starting at age 30
$8.8M retained next season, $3.6M in 2026 and 2027

They do have (3) 1st rd picks in 2025 and (2) 2nd rd picks
But how do you move those veteran contracts?
 

pit

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I always love being told, in a 32 team league, that we should feel better as a fanbase because someone has screwed up somewhere in the vicinity of where we have, especially when using a small sample size to boost the proof. Makes me feel much better about my favourite team being a floater in the toilet for so long.
 

Beef Invictus

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Could argue it started the chain of events that cost us drafting Buium too (we don't need Buium, we already have Drysdale!)

Worst Flyers trade of the last 2 decades when you account for the ripples it caused, pretty easily.

If I have time I bet I can tie it all back to the consequences of signing Leighton as starter in 2010 offseason
 

GKJ

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The worst ripple effect trade of this century was trading a 1st round pick for Steve Eminger, allowing the Capitals to draft John Carlson, a hall of fame right handed defenseman that we were looking for. If anyone is still here from that day, that was 10x as visceral as passing on Buium. They later went all in to Pronger and after he got hurt, are still chasing that one.
 

sigma six

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The worst ripple effect trade of this century was trading a 1st round pick for Steve Eminger, allowing the Capitals to draft John Carlson, a hall of fame right handed defenseman that we were looking for. If anyone is still here from that day, that was 10x as visceral as passing on Buium. They later went all in to Pronger and after he got hurt, are still chasing that one.

Hated that immediately and yelled at the tv, especially when a rival drafted the guy I wanted with the very next pick. Just awful.
 

GKJ

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Hated that immediately and yelled at the tv, especially when a rival drafted the guy I wanted with the very next pick. Just awful.
Caps were going to not qualify Eminger too. They could've had him for nothing a week later. But Holmgren hated working in the open market.
 
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sabremike

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I always love being told, in a 32 team league, that we should feel better as a fanbase because someone has screwed up somewhere in the vicinity of where we have, especially when using a small sample size to boost the proof. Makes me feel much better about my favourite team being a floater in the toilet for so long.
Reminds me of something Ole Anderson once told Jim Cornette: "Jim, I used to think you were a dumb f*** but so many other dumb f***s have come along since that you moved up the ladder without even trying."
 

CutOnDime97

Michkov to Misa
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Didn't realize this was happening. Musty won't report to Sudbury after requesting a trade from them. Gonna hurt his WJC chances if he doesn't start playing some hockey soon.

 

ybnvs

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Sanheim made it clear he prefers the right side, once he got used to it.
Some players prefer their off side (Giroux for example).

"Sanheim has said that the switch has helped him see the ice better in the offensive zone."

Saying he sees the offensive zone better does not equate to a preference to the right side. Everyone sees the offensive zone better on their off-side. No shit. That's some Introduction To Hockey 101 level crap.

He's playing RD because the Flyers have no first or second pair RD. The ones they have are 3rd pair or worse. Remember how they threw York out on RD his first year, clearly out of absolute desperation? This was before Sanheim was ever tried at RD.

Sanheim is and always was a LD.
 

deadhead

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Saying he sees the offensive zone better does not equate to a preference to the right side. Everyone sees the offensive zone better on their off-side. No shit. That's some Introduction To Hockey 101 level crap.

He's playing RD because the Flyers have no first or second pair RD. The ones they have are 3rd pair or worse. Remember how they threw York out on RD his first year, clearly out of absolute desperation? This was before Sanheim was ever tried at RD.

Sanheim is and always was a LD.
That's a blanket statement and a false one.
There are players who are more comfortable on their "stick" side.
And a few who are more comfortable on their opposite side, Giroux, Michkov.

One reason you shuffle lines and pairs is to see who is one side dominant and who is comfortable playing both sides.

Sanheim has played better the last two seasons on his right side, that goal last night was an example how he's learned to use that to his advantage. Doesn't mean he can't play well on the left side, but to say he's a LHD is simply wrong.
 

freakydallas13

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Sanheim has played better the last two seasons on his right side, that goal last night was an example how he's learned to use that to his advantage. Doesn't mean he can't play well on the left side, but to say he's a LHD is simply wrong.
Sanheim hasn't played on the left the last 2 seasons? Or am I forgetting something.
 

ybnvs

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That's a blanket statement and a false one.

A blanket statement which blankets a large majority of players from youth hockey to the NHL. Yes there are players who break that mold; you listed Giroux and Michkov. Those guys are also all-stars and elite players in the league, not your average or even above average player.

One reason you shuffle lines and pairs is to see who is one side dominant and who is comfortable playing both sides.

Yep. This is SOP for hockey.

Sanheim has played better the last two seasons on his right side, that goal last night was an example how he's learned to use that to his advantage. Doesn't mean he can't play well on the left side, but to say he's a LHD is simply wrong.

He's playing with the best partner he has ever had in his career. Is it strange to you we see a better version of Sanheim when he is routinely paired with a more talented defender, and not being shuffled around with Manning, MacDonald, Risto, Seeler on his off-side, etc...? I don't think the York-Sanheim is a good idea long term, but they are out of options (have no options) and so are playing their two best defensemen (who are 2nd pairing) on the top pair and that makes sense.
 

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