Mirtle: End is near for Hyman in Toronto

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DarkKnight

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Hyman is going to be just like Ponikarovsky, Stajan, Grabovski, Bozak etc etc.
Dime a dozen guys that played in our top 6 because we didn’t have anybody else and then completely failed when they left the Leafs.
I’d be pretty surprised if he’s in the NHL in three years.
Geez.
 
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AllDay28

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Which part of "usually don't" don't you understand...so you gave an example of Colorado just sneaking in...what's the sample like in the last 10 to 15 years? The Habs wouldn't even sniff a wild card spot in a normal divisional alignment.

I mean it happens often since the conferences are not balanced and one team could get screwed in a harder conf?

also perspective. Habs were 1 pt less than the 16th place team. When the Avs were 17th, they had 3 less pts than the team that missed the playoffs. Context matters.
 

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sandin, liljegren, Roberson, Amirov, among others.. oh ya drying up :laugh:
Three of those guys are graduating. Obviously I was talking coming up. For a guy with so little game you sure squawk a lot. Maybe my first ignore.

Watch where our prospect pool is ranked next season. Bottom third.
 

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Tampa broke the points record and then got swept by Columbus. Super pathetic. Then their fans cried and they tore it down and they didn’t win the cup the next year.

Did you miss how Tampa did in the playoffs the years before being swept by Columbus? I could look at Tampa's body of work and say the sweep by Columbus was an anomaly...I can't say the same for the Leafs.
 
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Did you miss how Tampa did in the playoffs the years before being swept by Columbus? I could look at Tampa's body of work and say the sweep by Columbus was an anomaly...I can't say the same for the Leafs.

so let me recap. If the leafs won a few rounds, the next year finished with the best record ever, then got swept by the Blue Jackets… this fan base would be ok with that?

LAUGH OUT LOUD
 

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Three of those guys are graduating. Obviously I was talking coming up. For a guy with so little game you sure squawk a lot. Maybe my first ignore.

Watch where our prospect pool is ranked next season. Bottom third.

wow a prospect pool loses 3 top players from it and their system ranking might drop because of it? Don’t need to call me a genius that just seems like common sense.

also before you ignore me, like I’ve said before I play shinny hockey all over Toronto during the winter. Hit me up and come out sometime. I’ll show you how little game I got ;)
 

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I think that poster might be right. You guys go crazy about Hyman because we have no one else of his type. He gets really exposed in the playoffs playing with top 6 guys. He hasn’t produced. He is a great 3rd liner on a cup contender, not a top 6 forward.
He was hurt last year and not up to form this, plus his linemates were dogshit. He was a great player for us, that’s kind of why he’s going to get paid. “You guys” need to pay attention, nobody is saying he’s the most important player, but he’s a great piece for a winning side.
 
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so let me recap. If the leafs won a few rounds, the next year finished with the best record ever, then got swept by the Blue Jackets and then win the cup the following season … this fan base would be ok with that?

LAUGH OUT LOUD

Fixed it for you.
 
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Three of those guys are graduating genius. Obviously I was talking coming up. For a guy with little game you squawk a lot. Maybe my first ignore.

Watch where our prospect pool is ranked next season. Bottom third.

And where would our U25 players rank? I also bet our prospect pool is mid-tier, we have a lot of good prospects still.

We still have these guys (sure I am missing some).. Kral, Abramov, Rindell, Hallander, Miettenen, Holmberg, Hirvonen, Kokkenen, Amirov, Koster, Anderson, SDA, Niemela.

You take away the top 3 prospects in anyone's prospect pool and it doesn't look great.
 

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And where would our U25 players rank? I also bet our prospect pool is mid-tier, we have a lot of good prospects still.

We still have these guys (sure I am missing some).. Kral, Abramov, Rindell, Hallander, Miettenen, Holmberg, Hirvonen, Kokkenen, Amirov, Koster, Anderson, SDA, Niemela.

You take away the top 3 prospects in anyone's prospect pool and it doesn't look great.
Especially with no draft picks. I can’t help you guys, the future is THIN.
 
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Why wouldn't we take a shot at this year? We were in a good position to make the semi-finals but came up short. It is really easy to make the right decisions in hindsight.

Hockey is such an unpredictable game, we had a good chance of going far this year, but you want the team to get rid of a top-6 winger because there is a better chance they don't? They may as well just trade all pending UFAs at the start of every year since they are unlikely to win the cup.
I wonder how things would be looking if we had done this over the last 5 yrs or so? Im not saying I agree with doing that but if we had traded instead of letting walk.
 

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Fixed it for you.

But that cup wouldn’t of came cause crybabies like you would of demanded heads after the Columbus choke and the team would be different.

thankfully no one in Tampa cares about hockey so they were able to keep their team intact and win the cup.
 

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so let me recap. If the leafs won a few rounds, the next year finished with the best record ever, then got swept by the Blue Jackets… this fan base would be ok with that?

LAUGH OUT LOUD

That would be a heck of a lot better than 17 years without winning a round in the playoffs, 5 straight round one losses that includes a choke job while up 3-1 against a team that would have missed the playoffs in a normal season.
 

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But that cup wouldn’t of came cause crybabies like you would of demanded heads after the Columbus choke and the team would be different.

thankfully no one in Tampa cares about hockey so they were able to keep their team intact and win the cup.

So now you are predicting that we're going to win the cup next year???
 

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Hyman is so dam overrated by leafs fan lolll. The guy literally played wit matthews and marner! He definitely has lottta grind to him but he aint a finisher and cant pass either. He can leave
 

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I mean it happens often since the conferences are not balanced and one team could get screwed in a harder conf?

also perspective. Habs were 1 pt less than the 16th place team. When the Avs were 17th, they had 3 less pts than the team that missed the playoffs. Context matters.

So you're justifying losing to the almost 16th place team in the first round. :thumbu:
 

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The difference is where. Tampa pays a Hart Trophy winner Kucherov, Rocket winning Stamkos, Norris winning Hedman, and Vezina winning Vasilevsky.

...a little different than the situation in Toronto with 4 forwards.

Regular season awards, irrelevant, right?
 
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