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TaLoN said:
Buffalo isn't a terrible team
I like winning. Winning is fun. More fun than losing.

Also, both winning and losing can be contagious. I know which I'd rather my team gets hooked on. I'd hate to see the Wild become the Detroit Lions of the NHL.
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TaLoN said:
Buffalo isn't a terrible team
I like winning. Winning is fun. More fun than losing.

Also, both winning and losing can be contagious. I know which I'd rather my team gets hooked on. I'd hate to see the Wild become the Detroit Lions of the NHL.
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They aren’t terrible ill concede but they won’t be a playoff team
 
TaLoN said:
Buffalo isn't a terrible team
I like winning. Winning is fun. More fun than losing.

Also, both winning and losing can be contagious. I know which I'd rather my team gets hooked on. I'd hate to see the Wild become the Detroit Lions of the NHL.
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Detroit is probably going to win the NFC North next year.
 
f7ben said:
Yah , having gotten Toews and Kane or McKinnon and Makar or Crosby and Malkin would really really really suck. I’d rather have Greenway and Dumba for sure !!!!
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For me, 5-10 years of junk hockey isn't worth it for just the chance at getting that type of combo.
 
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f7ben said:
Yah , having gotten Toews and Kane or McKinnon and Makar or Crosby and Malkin would really really really suck. I’d rather have Greenway and Dumba for sure !!!!
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Do you want me to go down the list of top 5 picks that turned out to be just okay players? Not every organization is guaranteed a franchise player just by tanking. Look at Edmonton early 2010s. Buffalo for much of the last decade. Hell, their best player wasn’t even their f***ing draft pick. Arizona? Yeah, no thanks.

Tanking is for losers.
 
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They better get their rest in now. After the AS break it's 14 games in 25 days, 2 back-to-backs with travel, and no extra days off before the TDL. There is a 7 game homestand at least, but they seems to lose focus and play flat after 4 or 5 straight games at home.
 
Wabit said:
They better get their rest in now. After the AS break it's 14 games in 25 days, 2 back-to-backs with travel, and no extra days off before the TDL. There is a 7 game homestand at least, but they seems to lose focus and play flat after 4 or 5 straight games at home.
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I see 5-6 wins at best before the tdl and hopefully we are far enough out that the moron running the team actually sells in earnest.
 
Digitalbooya said:
Do you want me to go down the list of top 5 picks that turned out to be just okay players? Not every organization is guaranteed a franchise player just by tanking. Look at Edmonton early 2010s. Buffalo for much of the last decade. Hell, their best player wasn’t even their f***ing draft pick. Arizona? Yeah, no thanks.

Tanking is for losers.
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What you're saying is that you have no faith in the ownership or the GM for Minnesota.

For every Edmonton and Buffalo you have Tampa Bay, Dallas, St. Louis, Los Angeles and Carolina.
 
thestonedkoala said:
What you're saying is that you have no faith in the ownership or the GM for Minnesota.

For every Edmonton and Buffalo you have Tampa Bay, Dallas, St. Louis, Los Angeles and Carolina.
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You’ll have to explain to me how STL( ROR , not their pick), CAR(Aho, 35th), Dal(Robertson 39th, Hintz 49th), LAK( Kopitar, 11th, Carter 11th), TBL(Kucherov 58th, Point 79 th) are the product of tanking. Drouin certainly didn’t work out for TBL.

How are Lafreniere and Kaako working out for NYR?

We can go on and on with high draft picks who failed. You need to stop pretending that tanking is some foolproof way to winning a Cup. It isn’t. It’s a strategy that occasionally works, but is dependent on a lot of things going right besides having a high first round draft pick. The downside of tanking is that it discourages fans, players, and coaches, making it hard to attract them to the team, which makes the team worse, which makes it harder to attract said groups, which results in a downward spiral that can last for years, if not decades. All you have to do is look at the basketball team in town, which has had 4 decades of futility, and has been full of empty seats for years.
 
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thestonedkoala said:
What you're saying is that you have no faith in the ownership or the GM for Minnesota.

For every Edmonton and Buffalo you have Tampa Bay, Dallas, St. Louis, Los Angeles and Carolina.
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Having a bad GM will cause any tank job to fail, because he won't be able to build a good supporting cast around his star players. Even a McDavid can't win Cups alone.

That said, sometimes tanks can fail not because of a bad GM, but because of bad luck. Bottoming out in a year where the draft is bad gets you a Yakupov. Even in a good draft year, drafting the consensus #1 can still land you an Alexandre Daigle. It's a little early to include Lafreniere in the same category as Daigle, but if he doesn't get moving in his development, he's right there with him.
 
Continually being blown out in the 1st round is just as bad as tanking. All but the most Pejorative Slured homers are quickly becoming apathetic towards this failure of a team.
 
f7ben said:
Continually being blown out in the 1st round is just as bad as tanking. All but the most Pejorative Slured homers are quickly becoming apathetic towards this failure of a team.
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I am still a Wild fan, even though it gets frustrating. I am no longer a T’Wolves fan.

I don’t feel tempted to make the Coyotes my team because they are tanking.
 
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Continually being blown out in the 1st round is just as bad as tanking. All but the most Pejorative Slured homers are quickly becoming apathetic towards this failure of a team.
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As @Minnewildsota says, you're speaking for yourself. And certainly there are others like you with that same opinion, so I'm not discounting it. Speaking for myself though... I'd much rather have full seasons of exciting and fun hockey even knowing we aren't "contenders" and probably won't make much of a splash come playoff time as opposed to several seasons of losing and terrible hockey for a slight chance that a high pick makes us contenders. Can't imagine what it's like for dumpster fire teams fans. Yuck. Afterall, get to the playoffs and you're goalie gets hot... you never know what happens.
 
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57special said:
You’ll have to explain to me how STL( ROR , not their pick), CAR(Aho, 35th), Dal(Robertson 39th, Hintz 49th), LAK( Kopitar, 11th, Carter 11th), TBL(Kucherov 58th, Point 79 th) are the product of tanking. Drouin certainly didn’t work out for TBL.

How are Lafreniere and Kaako working out for NYR?

We can go on and on with high draft picks who failed. You need to stop pretending that tanking is some foolproof way to winning a Cup. It isn’t. It’s a strategy that occasionally works, but is dependent on a lot of things going right besides having a high first round draft pick. The downside of tanking is that it discourages fans, players, and coaches, making it hard to attract them to the team, which makes the team worse, which makes it harder to attract said groups, which results in a downward spiral that can last for years, if not decades. All you have to do is look at the basketball team in town, which has had 4 decades of futility, and has been full of empty seats for years.
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Not great. How are Hughes and Hischier working out for New Jersey?
 
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