Minnesota Wild General Discussion - 2022-23

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MuckOG

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With the signing of Steel, it looks like this will be the roster we go into the season with. Sounds like both Greenway and Merrill won't be ready to go to start the season, so players will obviously be moved up or down.


Zuccarello - Hartman - KK
Boldy - Gaudreau - Rossi
Greenway - EEk - Foligno
Duhaime - Steel - Jost
Dewar

Brodin - Dumba
Middleton - Spurgeon
Goligoski - Kulikov
Merrill, Addison

Fleury
Gustavsson
 
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With the signing of Steel, it looks like this will be the roster we go into the season with. Sounds like both Greenway and Merrill won't be ready to go to start the season, so players will obviously be moved up or down.


Zuccarello - Hartman - KK
Boldy - Gaudreau - Rossi
Greenway - EEk - Foligno
Duhaime - Steel - Jost
Dewar

Brodin - Dumba
Middleton - Spurgeon
Goligoski - Kulikov
Merrill, Addison

Fleury
Gustavsson
I'd put:

Zuccs - Hartman - KK
Boldy - Gaudreau - Jost/Steel
Greenway - Ek - Foligno
Duhaime - Jost/Steel - Shaw/Chaffee/Dewar
Shaw/Chaffee/Dewar

Brodin - Dumba
Middleton - Spurgeon
Goligoski - Addison/Kulikov
Kulikov/Addison

Fleury
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I said it before, but with Greenway out to start the season, I am hoping that they try Boldy on that line for a bit, JEE was really starting to show some offensive potential towards the end of last season, and Boldy could be a really good compliment to him. Both JEE and Foligno are good at opening up space as well in the offensive zone where Boldy can do his best work.

I know people want Rossi breaking in with him due to previous chemistry, and that’s probably more likely to happen, but if JEE is ever going to put up ROR like numbers, Boldy would be a guy to help him get there, and in my mind that gives us two extremely dominant lines.
 

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I'm want to try these lines when the season starts (Greenway and Merrill out).

Kap/Hartman/Zucc
Boldy/JEE/Foligno
Duhaime/Freddy G/Dewar
Jost/Steel/Rossi

Brodin/Dumba
Middleton/Spurgeon
Kulikov/Addison

MAF/Gus
 
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I don't see much value putting Rossi on the fourth line when he could have 1st line minutes along with PP1 and PK1 duties in the AHL.
 
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My preference is still something like

Kaprizov-Hartman-Zuccarello
Greenway-Eriksson Ek-Foligno
Boldy-Rossi-Jost/Steel
Dewar-Gaudreau-Jost/Duhaime
Duhaime/Steel

Might as well put Jost or Steel on that kid line and hope they rediscover some offense. Kaprizov is going to be drawing the matchups, Ek is going to be shutting down other top players, the kids will be relatively unchecked. And there's no sense in rotating Jost and Steel on the fourth line thinking that's going to benefit anyone.
 

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My preference is still something like

Kaprizov-Hartman-Zuccarello
Greenway-Eriksson Ek-Foligno
Boldy-Rossi-Jost/Steel
Dewar-Gaudreau-Jost/Duhaime
Duhaime/Steel

Might as well put Jost or Steel on that kid line and hope they rediscover some offense. Kaprizov is going to be drawing the matchups, Ek is going to be shutting down other top players, the kids will be relatively unchecked. And there's no sense in rotating Jost and Steel on the fourth line thinking that's going to benefit anyone.
is steel much different than jost?
 

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is steel much different than jost?

Not in my opinion. At least not from a quality/level of ability standpoint.

Honestly I'd even be somewhat amenable to a Steel-Jost-Boldy line if Rossi is gonna start in the AHL (which I'm not outright opposed to).
 

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Boldy is a puck possession player. JEE and Foligno are dump and chasers. They are like oil and water. I can see Duhaime playing on that line as well as Hartman. May be a guy like Dewar. Boldy would be wasted there
 
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Not in my opinion. At least not from a quality/level of ability standpoint.

Honestly I'd even be somewhat amenable to a Steel-Jost-Boldy line if Rossi is gonna start in the AHL (which I'm not outright opposed to).
I was more so thinking let those 2 duke it out for the last spot on the rossi-boldy line and the loser can be traded. that line should be told to "skill it up" and if you cant, 4th line and wait for your trade destination.
 

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I was more so thinking let those 2 duke it out for the last spot on the rossi-boldy line and the loser can be traded. that line should be told to "skill it up" and if you cant, 4th line and wait for your trade destination.

That's fair, I can see it being almost a Pitlick type situation with either of them. Just really depends on whether Rossi is able to stick on that line, and who else from Iowa impresses at camp. I don't think there's a dire need to trade either, but if they can't play on that line we don't really need them. Jost can fill in on the fourth line but it's not an ideal fit. Sounds like Steel can't even fit on the fourth line based on testimony from Anaheim fans on the main board.
 

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That's fair, I can see it being almost a Pitlick type situation with either of them. Just really depends on whether Rossi is able to stick on that line, and who else from Iowa impresses at camp. I don't think there's a dire need to trade either, but if they can't play on that line we don't really need them. Jost can fill in on the fourth line but it's not an ideal fit. Sounds like Steel can't even fit on the fourth line based on testimony from Anaheim fans on the main board.
Yeah I dont think either are a great fit for 4th line. Id rather run with Duhaime - Dewar - Geadreau there. I dont think either Jost or Steel will gain a ton of attention in trade chatter but if either can showcase any offensive ability I would lock them in with Rossi and Boldy as long as Rossi shows he will not be sent back down.
 

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Boldy is a puck possession player. JEE and Foligno are dump and chasers. They are like oil and water. I can see Duhaime playing on that line as well as Hartman. May be a guy like Dewar. Boldy would be wasted there
Put Boldy at 1C. Profit.
 

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Put Boldy at 1C. Profit.
No, we trade for Kunin and put him at 1C.:fence:

That's fair, I can see it being almost a Pitlick type situation with either of them. Just really depends on whether Rossi is able to stick on that line, and who else from Iowa impresses at camp. I don't think there's a dire need to trade either, but if they can't play on that line we don't really need them. Jost can fill in on the fourth line but it's not an ideal fit. Sounds like Steel can't even fit on the fourth line based on testimony from Anaheim fans on the main board.
exactly.
 

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“Sam’s going to be one of those guys that’s battling for one of those top positions,” Guerin said. “There’s him, there’s Jost, there’s Boldy, there’s Rossi. There’s going to be spots open, and they’ve all got to battle for those. We have a lot of options in camp, which is exciting. (Connor) Dewar, (Brandon) Duhaime, everybody’s got to battle for a position. There’s some availability.”

Does Guerin genuinely think Boldy is competing with Steel and Jost for a top 9 spot, or is this just another example of GM talk™?

Quote from Wild offseason depth chart 6.0: How the Sam Steel signing impacts the lineup
 

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Right now, we've got( in descending order of value for this season);

Dewar- I've assumed that he has made the team. Two way, versatile, smart, courageous player. Evason will trust him. Only downside is his size, but his combination of smarts and toughness helps him make up for it. Not the highest ceiling....#3C at best, but way ahead of Gaudreau at the same age. Some similarities.

Rossi - Hoping for a Granlund'ish type career at the least. Might need a few more minor league games, but I think that sticking him with Boldy and Gaudreau would be just the thing for his game. Only things holding him back is speed and strength, but those are pretty damn important.

Steel- still relatively young, with close to 200 NHL games. Sounds like a cross between Jost and Donato. Lottery ticket at a relatively cheap price.

Chaffee- good size and strength, but doesn't use it....more of a scorer. I have doubts that he can adjust his game to be a grinder, but there is a spot for him on the 4th line if he can do it- RHS to boot! It's now or never for him....he's an older 24 yo. Wish he would turn into the next Hartman, but i don't see it.

Shaw - if you could put his energy and feistiness in Chaffee's body you'd have a kickass 4th liner. Height is holding him back, but a thick little guy. Could be faster, but is quick, and opportunistic.

Fogarty - Good size, not a fighter. RHS. Perfect guy to call up for one game to play 10 minutes. Sadly, no undiscovered potential at the age of 30yo.

Beckman - We'll see. Has the height, but a thin frame that needs to fill out. Also needs to work on getting his vg shot off more quickly, and learning how to be more effective as a scorer....tbh, i don't really know what he needs to do besides get stronger. He's grown since being drafted so he is well over 6', has a great shot, has gotten faster, is a decent passer, works hard both ways, though IMO his skillset is that of a shooter. Thought his progress was held back because of his usage a little bit down in Iowa. I can see him shooting up this list and slotting behind Rossi, but can also see him plateauing and becoming a AHL lifer.

Walker - Fast, good skater, good puck skills, smart. Average size, not sure about his weight. Feisty, if he wants to be. Skilled. Can see him transitioning into a energy type 4th liner, but also a skill type 3rd line guy. Another guy I can see jumping the list, but also plateauing in the AHL...it can be argued that he already has plateaued in college. FWIW, I'm happy for him that he got an education, but he is the sort of guy that might do better in a pro environment. You could argue that Swaney is a better, and similar player. I don't know. I love this pickup for us. If he can play in the middle of the ice he'll be a NHL'er.

Firstov- ?? He was ok in his brief AHL stints.


I'm assuming that Yurov and Ohgren are not available this year
 

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Does anyone think Iowa's coach should be fired? I think he's a wrong fit for the team and how young they are
 

Sebastien

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I think if Iowa doesn't do anything this year, he could be let go. Avs hated the guy as well.
He sucks with young players such as Beckman. He got him playing with Cody M last year. How quickly he benched Vladislav firstov last year, etc.. how does our gm not see this?
 
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