Confirmed Buy-Out [MIN] Zach Parise and Ryan Suter

[Sweetpotato]

Would the Oilers be better off with Suter instead of Keith?

depending on the cap hit on his next contract, easily yes.

As for the topic, Minny tanking for these next 2 drafts would be 5head. They come out with Kap, Boldy, Rossi and 2 high picks from the next 2 drafts? look out

 

[ThePsychicSaw]

I'm really trying to understand this, what am I missing?

This has to be one of the worst decisions I've seen in the last decade. If it was for Dumba, you PAY to have seattle not take him, regardless of the price (because its less than 14mil in dead cap even for just ONE YEAR) or you do whatever you need to before buying out BOTH at this ridiculous hit.

Lets just say for arguments sake, they had a clause where if one is bought out, the other must be too, it still DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE to justify those cap penalties.

someone help me understand the absurdity here.

 

[TaLoN]

Would the Oilers be better off with Suter instead of Keith?

Anyone would be better off with Suter over Keith at this point.

 

[CDN24]

First ever player to be bought out twice?

Vinny Lecavallier already has that honor I think or did he retire from the 2nd contract

 

[scoopscj]

Smiling as a devils fan

Me too. F@#k Z.P.
Not even mad he left. Mad at how he said he was going to stay and let the fans to believe he would stay and then went to play with a while because he was homesick.

 

[Spurgeon]

Whoa just saw the buyout breakdown and it's showing 12-15M in years 2, 3 and 4.

That means the wild will be operating with a salary cap in the high 60s range instead of 81.5 like other teams for 2023, 2024, and 2025.

Seems like a crazy thing to do but they are fortunate that Boldy, Rossi and whoever they get if they tank these years won't be needing deals until after those years.

Only Fiala and Kaprizov are major players who need new deals at the moment for the Wild

Greenway, Sturm, and Kahkonen need their extension next season. Dumba's and Talbot's contract, as well as Boldy's ELC expires after the 22-23 season. Rossi's will expire the following season. Both of those seasons are where the Wild will be assessed the $15M in dead cap. Going to be very difficult to keep a core group of players through that final season.

 

[bobbythebrain]

A. You're right probably not, many people with money don't want to live in Edmonton
B. They have limited cap so likely not
C. How does having Keith, who plays the exact same spot in the lineup, impact Suter's desire to go there? If anything it's the opposite.

This is some galaxy brain stuff in your post.

A. I know i am
B. Holland already said he has $ set aside for Larsson incase he decides to resign.
C. Nurse can play RHD also. D man switch all the time. Suter is a top pair and Keith is already been confirmed for 2nd. Not the same position at all

If you're gonna try and rip Edmonton, atleast have a clue

 

[ItWasJustified]

I'm really trying to understand this, what am I missing?

This has to be one of the worst decisions I've seen in the last decade. If it was for Dumba, you PAY to have seattle not take him.

If it was for Dumba, I'll PAY to have seattle take him.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Saving Private Dumba

Costs them Alex Tuch in the Vegas ED and now costs them an absolutely insane buyout. Hope he's worth it Minnesota.

 

[ThePsychicSaw]

If it was for Dumba, I'll PAY to have seattle take him.

Ha, fair enough.

So I take it everyone else is just as baffled? The lack of foresight here is really making me question my understanding of asset management here.

 

[sansabri]

25-26 can't come soon enough for the Wild

 

[Pia8988]

Guerin is the most incompetent GM in the league by far.

 

[Beacon Isles]

With the Isles having been rumored in on trading for Parise at the deadline two seasons ago, and the Lou connection, you have to think the Island is a strong possible destination for Zach.

Wonder how Suter liked playing for Trotz back in the day?

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

Guerin is the most incompetent GM in the league by far.

Jim Benning would like Guerin to hold his beer...

 

[MNRube]

I'm really trying to understand this, what am I missing?

This has to be one of the worst decisions I've seen in the last decade. If it was for Dumba, you PAY to have seattle not take him, regardless of the price (because its less than 14mil in dead cap even for just ONE YEAR) or you do whatever you need to before buying out BOTH at this ridiculous hit.

Lets just say for arguments sake, they had a clause where if one is bought out, the other must be too, it still DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE to justify those cap penalties.

someone help me understand the absurdity here.

they were going to be paying them either way. Wild are betting that neither one is serviceable in a year or two so better to open up the immediate flexibility and fix a bad locker room. It also helps with expansion and getting Kaprizov signed a with a new C

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Saving Private Dumba

Costs them Alex Tuch in the Vegas ED and now costs them an absolutely insane buyout. Hope he's worth it Minnesota.

You actually can't really draw a direct line to Dumba for either of them.

 

[nickschultzfan]

Saving Private Dumba

Costs them Alex Tuch in the Vegas ED and now costs them an absolutely insane buyout. Hope he's worth it Minnesota.

This is a bit of an tall tale. Wild also protect Scandella to trade him to Buffalo to drop $$ and get Foligno, who is going to be an assistant captain with the Wild this season.

 

[DatDude44]

on a value contract, signing Parise wouldn't be bad for any team !

but after the failed Kyle Turris debacle, I think the Oilers should stay away from Parise !

Very different types of players tho.

 

[Kocur Dill]

*opens page*

"GA, GA, gi-ga, whoa, BOTH!"

That's some headline. Tall about pulling the bandaid quick.

 

[Bonin21]

As for the topic, Minny tanking for these next 2 drafts would be 5head. They come out with Kap, Boldy, Rossi and 2 high picks from the next 2 drafts? look out

Ya, be brutal for the two years of the Kap bridge contract and watch him leave.

 

[Bonin21]

*opens page*

"GA, GA, gi-ga, whoa, BOTH!"

That's some headline. Tall about pulling the bandaid quick.

Guerin was trying to remove the bandaid in other ways for a long time.

 

[TaLoN]

Saving Private Dumba

Costs them Alex Tuch in the Vegas ED and now costs them an absolutely insane buyout. Hope he's worth it Minnesota.

This was about Greenway and Foligno actually. Both would've been exposed previously while Dumba would've been protected going 4-4-1.

Now they go 7-3-1 and both Greenway and Foligno are protected as well.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Sounds like Guerin had to convince the incompetent owner for months to buy both out. The same owner who signed both to 13 year deals. Then, had the nerve to publicly complain about long term deals etc.

I like that Minnesota did this. Guerin is no nonsense. And they can pay Kaprizov now.

 

[Dog]

Should of traded Dumba the guy gets injured to much.

 

[Pattysaurus]

Can’t say I’m sad Parise never won