Confirmed Signing with Link: [MIN] Kirill Kaprizov re-signs with the Wild (5 years, $9M AAV)

[north21]

Most minny fans said "OMGZ theres no KHL offer! Low ball him!"

More nonsense.

 

[HuskyBruinPride]

Yikes

Great young player but this contract is ridiculous. I mean I guess they didn't want him to bolt back to Russia but Jesus, he does not deserve this. The greed is real.

 

[north21]

You have just over half seasons worth of it. Where he scored at a ~75pt pace and had a pretty meh playoffs. He’s already overpaid by about ~$1.5M at his current production so you’d better hope he doesn’t come down at all.

Gusev (who isn’t as good obviously) also had about 60 games of experience in the NHL his first year and scored at a ~55pt pace. He was bought out after putting up 5pts for NJ the next year…


If you can’t recognize the massive risk giving a guy with 55 games over one season THAT kind of money then I don’t know what to tell you.

I think there is a level of risk and we are mostly feeling good about it, yes based on one short season and buying up his prime years.

 

[Just Linda]

You think the other teams are sending out their bottom pairing D or bottom 6 against Kaprizov?

My comment was a criticism of JFresh not Kaprizov.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

“The KHL offer is real”

 

[varano]

Kap is twice the player Marner is. His production will sky rocket to Panarin levels before you know it, and that'll be with worse linemates than Mitchell

Lol are you 14?

 

[varano]

“The KHL offer is real”

Real enough to get 9 million for a handful of games eh

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Real enough to get 9 million for a handful of games eh

I doubt it had anything to do with it. Guerin came out swinging with a 8 year, 9M contract like 6 months ago

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Real enough to get 9 million for a handful of games eh

Except he got it well after the "deadline" passed and well after CSKA president (or something) said it wasn't happening.

 

[Brovalchuk]

Or Gusev got back to 60 point player on Toronto...

Gusev was never a 60 point player in this league.

at the end of the day, Minny needed to keep this guy. He's dynamic and likely remains a superstar based on what we've seen, even with the small sample size.

 

[Foppberg]

Panarin 2.0

Both on how good he is and also what'll happen once his contract ends lol

 

[Kshahdoo]

Gusev was never a 60 point player in this league.

at the end of the day, Minny needed to keep this guy. He's dynamic and likely remains a superstar based on what we've seen, even with the small sample size.

He scored 46 points in 64 games in his first season, which was 60 point pace.

 

[Brovalchuk]

He scored 46 points in 64 games in his first season, which was 60 point pace.

44 points in 66 games is a 54 point pace.

 

[rynryn]

some of the delay makes sense now. he was secretly hanging out in FLA waiting for the vaxx to kick in.

 

[Holy Slapshot]

Well it's mind blowing and he definitely doesn't deserve it... But at least he really impressed me and I can agree he actually might be worth it after all.
For me it's still better contract than Merzlikins one. Jackets fans are happy with it, player is good, but goalies are a bit different story and his sample was even smaller.

 

[Guttersniped]

You have just over half seasons worth of it. Where he scored at a ~75pt pace and had a pretty meh playoffs. He’s already overpaid by about ~$1.5M at his current production so you’d better hope he doesn’t come down at all.

Gusev (who isn’t as good obviously) also had about 60 games of experience in the NHL his first year and scored at a ~55pt pace. He was bought out after putting up 5pts for NJ the next year…


If you can’t recognize the massive risk giving a guy with 55 games over one season THAT kind of money then I don’t know what to tell you.

As a Devils STH, I can say I really enjoyed Gusev’s first season, he’s a fun little guy, but he’s not in remotely in the same league as Kaprizov. And if you think so, I not sure how came to that conclusion.

Goose is 5 years older and while they’re both listed at 5’9”, KK is got a 20-25 lb advantage over him. And Gusev goes beyond a “non-physical” winger to more of a “non-corporeal” one.

Gusev’s first season
Hits/60 5v5 1.74
Hits/60 taken 5v5 0.74 (he’s elusive lol)

Hits/60 5v5 2.19
Hits/60 taken 5v5 4.31

And he’s a very deliberate player. And by that, I mean very slow.

He’s a cerebral, fun, creative playmaker but his 44 points in 66 games was partly due to playing with Coleman, when Blake achieved God Mode, on a line that was our defacto 1st line while Hughes, Nico and Pamieri took turns missing games with minor injuries after the Hall trade. (It wasn’t the most enjoyable season.)

Gusev also feasted a bit on a power play that shockingly roared to life at the end of the season, it had a 28% success rate in the last 21 games (with 18 PP goals scored) and he has 10 PP points (3G 7A) during that stretch.

He certainly was one of the reasons for that late success of PP in his rookie year. The next year our special teams imploded, which wasn’t his fault, but he certainly didn’t click on the PP again either.

Gusev’s shot is weak, he’s not much of a goal scorer. After shooting 12.2% on power play and 7.21% 5v5, Gusev couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn. He doesn’t have strong shot and that season unfortunately he wasn’t getting within 10 feet of the net for whatever reason. Also this:

2019-20 66 games 13 goals
6 wrist shots (71 shots 8.5%)
4 snap shots (47 shots 8.5%)
3 slap shots (25 shots 12.0%)
0 back shots (9 shots 0%)
0 tips (4 shots 0%)
0 deflections (1 shot 0%)
0 wraparounds (1 shot 0%)
158 shots 8.2%

2019-20 20 GP 2 goals
1 wrist shots (20 shots 5%)
1 snap shots (20 shots 5%)
0 slap shots (3 shots 0%)
0 back shots (2 shots 0%)
0 tips (4 shots 0%)
0 deflections (0 shot -)
0 wraparounds (0 shot -)
45 shots 4.4%

I’m shocked there were 3 shots that could be described as “slap shots”. It was all weak, bad angle perimeter shots.

Kaprizov
2020-21 55 GP 27 G
16 wrist shots (91 shot 17.6%)
3 snap shots (23 shots 13.0%)
1 slap shots (9 shots 11.1%)
1 back shots (17 shots 5.9%)
2 tips (6 shots 33.3%)
2 deflections (5 shot 40.0%)
2 wraparounds (6 shot 33.3%)
157 shots 17.2%
The dude is a filthy sniper with a wicked wrist shot that is not some grand mystery here.

Kaprizov scored 20 goals in 49 KHL games when he was 19. He scored 30 goals in 57 KHL games when he was 21 and 33 goals in 57 KHL games when he was 22.

Gusev career high in the KHL was 24 goals in 57 games at age 24.

vs

So I’m seeing a different approach to shooting

I’m going into some detail because “Gusev is Russian, he did things and he was bought out, hmmm?” is such a horse shit lazy ass take. They aren’t similar players and Gusev’s flaws were apparent before he came to the NHL. He was a riskier, older player, which is why he got traded for a 2021 2nd and 2020 3rd in the first place to a desperate team in a dumb trade.

And saying “small sample size” doesn’t make it your point sound more “statistical”. There are ways to analyze his performance, he’s not a mystery box or prospect with upside they’re taking a flyer on.

Wild fans keep repeatedly saying that he squeezed the team, so no expects this to be a value contract. Evolving Wild had his 5 year deal at 7.789m. There really isn’t much else to discuss, because you’re “his current production better not drop” is based on empty doom and gloom. His wrist can shatter! He can get by bus! IT’S A MASSIVE RISK!

 

[General Fanager]

55 game audition and he gets 9 million per....wowzers

 

[MuckOG]

55 game audition and he gets 9 million per....wowzers

The "audition" was longer than 55 games, but whatever.

 

[Just Linda]

The "audition" was longer than 55 games, but whatever.

Oh, 62 games if you include the playoffs.

 

[MuckOG]

Oh, 62 games if you include the playoffs.

You completely discounting what he did the in the KHL?

 

[Dickie Dunn]

What would Robertson get from Dallas on a new deal right now? Ty Smith from New Jersey? Kaprizov had a huge advantage in getting this deal after trimming down his ELC years. It's really as simple as that and not some "new trend, sky is falling!!!". Unless guys start manipulating their ELC years like Kaprizov did.

 

[Oddbob]

And how did you win those cups? Elite Russian talent. That what i might add, had a pretty lucrative contract at the time.

What have you done lately?

What has your team EVER done, since you want to play this game?

 

[chchelseII]

You completely discounting what he did the in the KHL?

You only take into account KHL games when considering whether he should be eligible for the Calder. Otherwise, they’re meaningless.

 

[Oddbob]

You completely discounting what he did the in the KHL?

Absolutely! Lots of KHL players put up poor performances in the NHL. Most in fact.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

He scored 46 points in 64 games in his first season, which was 60 point pace.

He scored a 54 point pace at 27, not a 76 point pace at 23