Confirmed Signing with Link: [MIN] Kirill Kaprizov re-signs with the Wild (5 years, $9M AAV)

[The Gr8 Dane]

nice deal hope he can live up to it minny fans deserve it

 

[varano]

This is a fairytail that only exists in your head.

Most minny fans said "OMGZ theres no KHL offer! Low ball him!"

 

[nbwingsfan]

Panarin got 2 years/6m after 2 seasons and it was clears that they he was worth a longer a commitment at the time.

It would have been nice for the team to have had a full season before committing but the pandemic hellscape had other ideas, but the dude isn’t that much of a black box.

Makar is 22 and has only played 101 regular season games (and 35 playoff games). I’m assuming you were sold on him at some point with not a whole lot of games played.

KK probably squeezed an extra mil from them but he wanted a bridge deal they couldn’t give him and the deal includes two UFA years. (And before you yap at me, the Makar comparison is just about your fainting couch over GP, his deal is definitely much more team friendly.)

Not a Wild fan but he’s right and you’re wrong and the “you’re just saying that because your a fan and my piercing observation about a player’s contract hurt your feelings, and so your reasonable response is really just you lashing out in anger, so there” is always the sign of someone who has no other argument.

I’m not a Wild fan either but he’s not wrong at all.

Giving a guy with just over half a seasons worth of production in a different environment than usual NHL, a poor playoff showing and only producing at a ~75pt pace NINE MILLION DOLLARS is just ridiculous.

 

[nbwingsfan]

It probably shouldn’t surprise me at this point, but it’s fascinating how difficult it is for people to grasp that, sometimes, players are being paid for how good they are, and an extensive NHL résumé is only one way of indicating that. Hockey exists outside of the NHL. Players can actually prove their quality outside of it. Guys like Panarin or Kaprizov didn’t suddenly start learning to play the game when they hit an NHL rink. If your talent evaluation absolutely hinges on having proven everything in the NHL for an extensive amount of time, that’s firmly a you-problem, and one that’s resulting on you missing out.

Good for the Wild to keep an outstanding player around long term.

You mean like NJ giving Gusev $4.5M and buying him out one season later because he sucked?

 

[MuckOG]

You mean like NJ giving Gusev $4.5M and buying him out one season later because he sucked?

Are you seriously comparing Kaprizov to Gusev?

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Most minny fans said "OMGZ theres no KHL offer! Low ball him!"

Nope, try again.

 

[Sota Popinski]

Justifying terrible contacts by comparing them to other terrible contracts is what causes it to escalate.
"Well it's good compared to [insert terrible deal]"

The players are entitled to 50% of hockey related revenue. No terrible contract changes that. It's the same amount of money no matter which player is getting what. The cap goes up because the amount of money coming in goes up, not because someone overpaid Milan Lucic.

 

[Sota Popinski]

lol @ minny fans who thought that they were going to play hardball and offer 4 million

lol at you making stuff up

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

lol I don't want to hear 1 more word about Marner. 5 years, 9 million for a guy with a half a season of games. Unreal.

Kap is twice the player Marner is. His production will sky rocket to Panarin levels before you know it, and that'll be with worse linemates than Mitchell

 

[Circulartheory]

Most minny fans said "OMGZ theres no KHL offer! Low ball him!"

Who said 4mil? Because that wouldn't even make sense for a low ball offer...

 

[WaW]

Come on guys... Let's be realistic he isn't sniffing those numbers. He shot at 17% for 55 games. Of those 55 games, 32 of them were against Anaheim, SJ, Arizona, and LA.

This is a terrible deal that is going to backfire hard.

What's so outlandish about 17% for a guy who was known to be a legit goalscorer when he came over?

His 17% wasn't even top 20 in the league last year, and it was on a high volume of shots. We're not talking about someome like Alex Wennberg and his 20% shot percentage here. Your take is just dismissive for the sake of being dismissive.

 

[Rob Brown]

Kap is twice the player Marner is. His production will sky rocket to Panarin levels before you know it, and that'll be with worse linemates than Mitchell

I'm a massive Kaprizov fan (own the RR jersey), but Marner is a 90 point player. I wouldn't be surprised if Kaprizov gets to 90 points soon, but to say he's twice the player of Marner is pretty disingenuous.

 

[Bevans]

What's so outlandish about 17% for a guy who was known to be a legit goalscorer when he came over?

His 17% wasn't even top 20 in the league last year. Your take is just dismissive for the sake of being dismissive.

Comparing statistical outliers to stastical outliers isn't a very useful exercise. Point and Draisaitl are the only players in the NHL with a career shooting percentage (with at least 800 shots) over 17%. 20th among active players is 13.97%.

Maybe Kaprizov will have the highest career shooting percentage in the NHL. Personally, I'd bet on regression before that.

 

[These Are The Days]

Marner hasn't scored a playoff goal in 2 years and y'all bitching Kaprizov is overpaid

 

[WaW]

Comparing statistical outliers to stastical outliers isn't a very useful exercise. Point and Draisaitl are the only players in the NHL with a career shooting percentage (with at least 800 shots) over 17%. 20th among active players is 13.97%.

Maybe Kaprizov will have the highest career shooting percentage in the NHL. Personally, I'd bet on regression before that.

The thing is even if he falls to say 13%, which would be low for a player of his calibre, he's still a 30 goal scorer with his shot volume over 82 games. That's in addition to being someone who drives the play and creates chances at a pretty high level. His floor is higher than you are suggesting, that's all.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

The 55 games is what it is. The contract was always going to be unconventional given the circumstances of both him and the team, and our not being able to consider any kind of a bridge.

 

[MuckOG]

I’m not a Wild fan either but he’s not wrong at all.

Giving a guy with just over half a seasons worth of production in a different environment than usual NHL, a poor playoff showing and only producing at a ~75pt pace NINE MILLION DOLLARS is just ridiculous.

Typically I would agree with your post. But try as hard as you might, you can't ignore his entire body of work that started before he arrived in the NHL.

Do you think that CHI regrets signing Panarin to his bridge deal and walking him to UFA? Instead of letting Kaprizov walk to UFA, they locked him up for a good chunk of his prime. To do so, they had to pay a premium. Is there a risk? Of course, but one that the Wild (or any team) would have to make.

 

[bernmeister]

Congrats Wild fans!
You got your guy at good term at a fair #.

 

[kevsh]

Marner hasn't scored a playoff goal in 2 years and y'all bitching Kaprizov is overpaid

Marner is overpaid.
But can't both be true?

 

[TGWL]

How long will it take to get a visa now? 2 weeks?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Marner is overpaid.
But can't both be true?

This year will decide.

 

[Wasted Talent]

How long will it take to get a visa now? 2 weeks?

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

It's a W for the Wild in my books.

They desperately need a player like Kaprizov, both for the team and the fans sanity. He's wearing a Wild jersey for (presumably) 6 years before possibly moving on, and for guys near their mid 20's coming over, that's not a guarantee.

I'd say a 5th round pick well used. Hawks would've probably liked to see Breadman for 6 instead of 2.

If for some reason it doesn't work out, well, that's just another reason to start a rebuild.

 

[Holymakinaw]

Kap is twice the player Marner is. His production will sky rocket to Panarin levels before you know it, and that'll be with worse linemates than Mitchell

LMAO.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Kap is twice the player Marner is. His production will sky rocket to Panarin levels before you know it, and that'll be with worse linemates than Mitchell

Maybe his production should skyrocket to Marner's level first....