Confirmed Signing with Link: [MIN] Kirill Kaprizov re-signs with the Wild (5 years, $9M AAV)

[ThatGuy22]

It’s a joke bud, relax.
But this does create a precedent that could inflates rookie player salaries after 1 season.
No need to tell you: faster inflated prices vs a slower salary cap growth = no bueno.

If rookies have a ton of dominate pro experience, sure. The next European that comes in at 24 with a record of dominance and puts up a 40 goal pace will absolutely point to Kaprizov's contract...

 

[Larry Hanson]

Ridiculous amount of money for a player that hasn't proven squat. Blame the terrible Canadian GM's for screwing up the RFA deals over the last many years. Minnesota isn't winning anything this year, should have let him sit or go to the KHL.

 

[ThatGuy22]

You're missing the point.
Kaprisov got paid because of the season he just played, not his KHL production.

No GM would hand out anywhere near a 45 million dollar contract to Kaprisov a year ago. Thus my (true) statement GMs are weary of giving KHL guys big contracts without NHL proof

Because he hasn't backed it up with NHL play.

No GM would give this contract for without the prior KHL and International play either.

They work hand and hand...

 

[Drewcifer]

Edit: and to all the comments talking about only 55 games, it wasn't a hot streak. If you watched the player you could see the level of play he brings, which is superstar level.

You can tell from those comments who watched him last year and who just saw the highlights. It's not like he is a 19 year old who had a flukey good season. He is a clearly talented player entering his prime.

 

[Digitalbooya]

1 season of just under a ppg gets you 9 mill a season? Pathetic!

It's not like he's some 19-20 year old with a ton of holes in his game. He's 24, has plenty of pro experience, and just dominated for the Wild last season. He's worth the contract to those who have watched him.

 

[Oddbob]

It's not like he's some 19-20 year old with a ton of holes in his game. He's 24, has plenty of pro experience, and just dominated for the Wild last season. He's worth the contract to those who have watched him.

His KHL stuff means nothing in the NHL. He played 56 games in the NHL and as pointed out by others didn't play well against the actual contending teams in the division.

 

[Digitalbooya]

His KHL stuff means nothing in the NHL. He played 56 games in the NHL and as pointed out by others didn't play well against the actual contending teams in the division.

Do you seriously listen to uninformed people? He was essentially point per game against every team in the division except St. Louis.

STL 7GP 2G 1A 3PTS
COL 8GP 3G 4A 7PTS
VGK 8GP 6G 2A 8PTS
ANA 8GP 1G 7A 8PTS
LAK 8GP 6G 3A 9PTS
SJS 8GP 4G 2A 6PTS
ARI 8GP 5G 5A 10PTS

 

[Drewcifer]

In 23 regular season games last year against Vegas, Colorado and St Louis he had 11 goals and 18 points. That isn't ppg against playoff teams but presumably even good players put up better numbers against bad teams than against good ones. His worst results were against St Louis, I could see why Blues fans might think the Wild overpaid.

 

[Oddbob]

Do you seriously listen to uninformed people? He was essentially point per game against every team in the division except St. Louis.

STL 7GP 2G 1A 3PTS
COL 8GP 3G 4A 7PTS
VGK 8GP 6G 2A 8PTS
ANA 8GP 1G 7A 8PTS
LAK 8GP 6G 3A 9PTS
SJS 8GP 4G 2A 6PTS
ARI 8GP 5G 5A 10PTS

He was also a huge minus against the good teams and only had 3 playoff pts.

 

[BelovedIsles]

Inherent risk in giving a young rookie, who only has a handful of games under his belt that kind of money, with that said, do you want to potentially compromise your relationship with a potential franchise player? Guerin was in a difficult position.

 

[Drewcifer]

By the time this contract is over nobody is going to be criticizing it. The Wild have a star caliber talent signed for $9 a year until he is 29. By next season nobody is going to care that he only played 55 games before signing the contract. People who have actually watched him know he is clearly legit.

 

[SoundAndFury]

This thread is hilarious. Clueless old men yelling at the cloud because in their day "you had to earn it damn it". Cue Dire Straits - Money for Nothing.

 

[Digitalbooya]

He was also a huge minus against the good teams and only had 3 playoff pts.

The only team that drastically hurt his +/- was Colorado at -7, which makes sense since they were the highest scoring team in the league and the Wild had 6-0, 5-1, and 5-1 losses to them during the season AND half of Kaprizov's points against Colorado were on the power play (don't count towards +/-).

He also had to drag around a 4th line center (Rask) for almost the entire season and then during the playoffs he had a 4th line wing playing center with him (Hartman).

 

[FinnHab]

After one good season in NHL you get contract like that? Absolute madness.

I dont follow Wild at all, but it seems that one player holded the entire organization as a hostage. Smells desperation...

 

[Oddbob]

This thread is hilarious. Clueless old men yelling at the cloud because in their day "you had to earn it damn it". Cue Dire Straits - Money for Nothing.

Nice argument. Yeah lets live in a world where you earn nothing.

 

[SoundAndFury]

Nice argument. Yeah lets live in a world where you earn nothing.

Yes because you can't get paid for your talent or ability, it's all about the grind. Am I right?

 

[TBF1972]

Could be worse I guess.

at least it isn't a 13 year contract.

 

[Timeless Winter]

Weird opinion, but I think this is great for both the Wild and Kaprizov.

 

[Oddbob]

Yes because you can't get paid for your talent or ability, it's all about the grind. Am I right?

No, but in sports, salaries are over inflated because people get paid without proving they are worth it. Which then inflates the prices for the fans, which is why going to a pro sporting event nowadays, means needing a 2nd mortgage.

 

[Sota Popinski]

Ridiculous amount of money for a player that hasn't proven squat. Blame the terrible Canadian GM's for screwing up the RFA deals over the last many years. Minnesota isn't winning anything this year, should have let him sit or go to the KHL.

Canadian GMs have screwed up RFA deals and UFA deals.

The Wild are getting Kaprizov through his prime. And the Calder Trophy says he has proven quite a bit. Anyone saying this deal is awful after seeing the UFA deals handed out this summer is a dumbass.

Even if he doesn't improve but stays healthy and performs like he did last year for all 5 years of this contract, this is a great deal. If he gets better, this is a steal.

 

[SoundAndFury]

No, but in sports, salaries are over inflated because people get paid without proving they are worth it. Which then inflates the prices for the fans, which is why going to a pro sporting event nowadays, means needing a 2nd mortgage.

So it's all about you, basically. Which was obvious all along. Oh well, I hope you prove your worth to earn a higher salary one day and won't be mad at extremely talented NHL goal scorer being paid for his prime years instead of his hurting himself financially so YOU can go to a game or two.

 

[Jeune Poulet]

It’s a joke bud, relax.
But this does create a precedent that could inflates rookie player salaries after 1 season.
No need to tell you: faster inflated prices vs a slower salary cap growth = no bueno.

That's not how a salary cap league works.

That's why people don't understand your joke.

 

[Oddbob]

So it's all about you, basically. Which was obvious all along. Oh well, I hope you prove your worth to earn a higher salary one day and won't be mad at extremely talented NHL goal scorer being paid for his prime years instead of his hurting himself financially so YOU can go to a game or two.

How is it all about me? But enjoy that 9mil if he is a 50-60 person player going forward.

 

[Sota Popinski]

No, but in sports, salaries are over inflated because people get paid without proving they are worth it. Which then inflates the prices for the fans, which is why going to a pro sporting event nowadays, means needing a 2nd mortgage.

The players get a percentage of the revenue. No single player's contract changes the math on that.

The revenue keeps going up because dopes are willing to take out a 2nd mortgage to pay for tickets to the games and $10 beers

 

[NoName]

Risky move with that Cap hit. He is getting the same kind of money as proven franchise stars like Aho and Rantenen got recently and I think we can all agree both of those guys had a much more proven track record when the team forked out those deals. Still, Minnesota is obviously betting he is going that kind of "best forward/skater on a contending team" type of guy and paying him as such. A lot of risk to this, but by the same token I remember everyone looking at the Draisaitl contract with similar doubts and we all now can point to that as being as far from an "overpayment" as is possible.

Time will tell if this works out. However, from an outsider's perspective this is a big gamble.