Post-Game Talk: Mild

[Tob]

I was of sound mind before puck drop, but now I find myself confused, dazed, wondering if Ed was right and we let the chosen one go. I stare, muttering to myself, sign kane, sign kane, like the drones of the masses on twitter but i cannot stop. sign kane. bring vitali home. what could have been if michael sauer never retired?

 

[bl02]

Fraudbinejad 0 5v5 goals in 11 games.

he was so timid tonight. Terrible

 

[Machinehead]

You can think whatever you want about it, but I've said time and time again that I don't care about records.

In all sports, regular season performance is correlatiing less and less with playoff performance. We're in an era of load management and endless resources of data on your opponent.

If you get in, which we should, it's basically preseason. Wins and losses during this exercise simply don't show who's going to perform. The team sucks at the elements that usually are good indicators.

The core of the roster sucked at these things in 2019. Instead of seeing out the rebuild, the team banked on the first few draft classes filling the holes. They haven't done that at all. They've had no impact.

So now, we're essentially still watching the 19-20 Rangers except with better goaltending (who cares - it's a roulette spin in a playoff series) and a bigger role for Adam Fox.

They likely are what they are and should just rebuild again if they truly aspire to reach the top.

 

[Mike in Houston]

Rafters!

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Nobody should be singled out after that game. That was statistically the most lopsided game in the NHL this season according to NaturalStatTrick. This team was completely outclassed. Lack of depth is absolutely horrendous. Should never look like that down 2 players

It not just being down 2 important players. They were exhausted. They come back from a 5 game western road trip, play 1 game against a tough division opponent, and then have to fly to Minny. These are human beings and that's a difficult schedule. What is so fing hard to understand about this? They were bad tonight. Take the point and move on.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

First ten mins good.
Stupid penalties though. That turned the game. Put the rangers back on their heels for long stretches.
Quick was huge. The goals he gave up were mostly due to defensive breakdowns.
Also having three new guys in the lineup hurt. I think excuses for this one are reasonable.
Can’t really argue with the officiating but the rangers - including the delayed penalty- were short handed for about ten more mins than Minnesota today and there’s knock on effect even if the penalties are killed.
All in all I’m unhappy with the match but take the point happily.

Those penalties kept a lot of key players on the bench for an extended period of time and stole our soul. I honestly hate when this team gets up too many goals, they fold and try to defend instead of continuing to pressure every time

 

[PuckLuck3043]

I gave you a like for positivity but no cup contender should look like that no matter who is hurt.



How does the league allow that?

Again, it's not just the players that are injured. They were gassed.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

2:33 minute interview with Jimmy Vesey; that’s more than his ice time tonight.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

I was slightly optimistic about Kakko heading into this year but he’s been about as bad as you can imagine. Sure you can try to blame his linemates but just look at him individuall and there’s nothing there. Doesn’t forecheck well, inept off the rush, doesn’t make an impact as a net front/screen presence. On a line with Kreider and Zibanejad that 3rd player has to be able to facilitate the puck, he doesn’t.

Too many games with a box score of 0s, he’s not doing anything

 

[effen]

You can think whatever you want about it, but I've said time and time again that I don't care about records.

In all sports, regular season performance is correlatiing less and less with playoff performance. We're in an era of load management and endless resources of data on your opponent.

If you get in, which we should, it's basically preseason. Wins and losses during this exercise simply don't show who's going to perform. The team sucks at the elements that usually are good indicators.

The core of the roster sucked at these things in 2019. Instead of seeing out the rebuild, the team banked on the first few draft classes filling the holes. They haven't done that at all. They've had no impact.

So now, we're essentially still watching the 19-20 Rangers except with better goaltending (who cares - it's a roulette spin in a playoff series) and a bigger role for Adam Fox.

They likely are what they are and should just rebuild again if they truly aspire to reach the top.

They looked at the squad, roughed up Lindgren for two periods knowing he can't do anything and Trouba won't with Fox out and once no forward did anything, just took space like it was practice against high schoolers, completely unafraid of even being pushed off the puck.

I don't care about losses, or even being outplayed. Like you said, the RS is just preseason. But there's no fight in the team. They block shots cause they have to, allegedly play a 1-3-1 because they have to, shoot because they have to. But they don't want to. You're not gonna win with a team that mostly is there to do a job.

Tell me I'm wrong.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

good lord....some of these takes. it's like some people have zero awareness of context and would lose their mind about the team's heart/effort over anything short of an 82-0 regular season followed by a 16-0 playoff run. even then they'd be finding things to criticize.

if only those people had their careers put on camera. i'm sure they're all the best in the world at what they do and have never made a mistake in their life, not even in the most challenging of circumstances where multiple things out of their control occurred to make it that much harder. bunch of kim jung il's here apprently...everything they do is perfect...even shot an 18 the first round of golf they ever played.

seriously...calm down. this team has guts. seasons are long, some nights are stacked against you. anyone that can't appreciate how big even getting a point out of this game was simply doesn't understand hockey.

Considering Fox and Chytil will be out a long f***ing time none of that matters. We looked like we'll be giving the Sharks a run for their money tonight. Fox is an amazing player he's not THAT good.

Again, it's not just the players that are injured. They were gassed.

They were gassed against Winnipeg, probably a better team than the Wild and put in a respectable effort.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

You’ll have till wait till next season; we don’t have a 7th round pick this year.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

3.

Goodrow or Shesterkin? Goodrow sucks and Quick put in a great effort that I don't think Shesterkin was likely to do better than.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

If Brodz and Jones are our best replacement players, we need new replacement players.

 

[Mike in Houston]

Goodrow or Shesterkin? Goodrow sucks and Quick put in a great effort that I don't think Shesterkin was likely to do better than.

I didn't count Igor because he was never supposed to start tonight. This was Quick's game. It was just the timing that they held Igor back in NY and called up Domingue.

 

[mrmovies779]

Schneider gives me Mcilrath vibes

 

[bl02]

Goodrow or Shesterkin? Goodrow sucks and Quick put in a great effort that I don't think Shesterkin was likely to do better than.

Probably making a lame excuse but I wonder how many times Igor would have been able to play the puck crisply to his d and forwards where Quick obviously lacks that skill. Not sure if anything would have helped our 5 on 5 after the first 10 minutes or so.

 

[will1066]

I was slightly optimistic about Kakko heading into this year but he’s been about as bad as you can imagine. Sure you can try to blame his linemates but just look at him individuall and there’s nothing there. Doesn’t forecheck well, inept off the rush, doesn’t make an impact as a net front/screen presence. On a line with Kreider and Zibanejad that 3rd player has to be able to facilitate the puck, he doesn’t.

He's not a game breaker. Give him complementary players so that he can at least do what he does better

 

[DanielBrassard]

If Brodz and Jones are our best replacement players, we need new replacement players.

Focusing on the depth players is really missing the forest for the trees IMO. This same core group of players has been dummied at 5v5 for years now regardless of the supporting cast. That’s the problem.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Considering Fox and Chytil will be out a long f***ing time none of that matters. We looked like we'll be giving the Sharks a run for their money tonight. Fox is an amazing player he's not THAT good.



They were gassed against Winnipeg, probably a better team than the Wild and put in a respectable effort.

Were they also missing Fox and Chytil against Winnipeg? That and the schedule was a bad combo. Plus the fact that Minny is better than their record and desperate for a win and it all adds up to a shit night and they still got a point. Only 2 teams in the league with more points. People need to relax.

 

[bl02]

He's not a game breaker. Give him complementary players so that he can at least do what he does better

11 games in but he honestly looks like he got weaker on his skates. He was dumped on his ass several times tonight.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Probably making a lame excuse but I wonder how many times Igor would have been able to play the puck crisply to his d and forwards where Quick obviously lacks that skill. Not sure if anything would have helped our 5 on 5 after the first 10 minutes or so.

Yeah, Quick is absolutely dreadful handling the puck it's a turnover 7 times out of 10.

 

[mrmovies779]

I think at this point its pretty safe to say Schneider was a massive reach when drafted...and Gorton and JD saw something in him that simply wasn't there.

 

[Richard Banger]

Laf is playing like he doesn’t want to get traded. Kakko unfortunately is not. It sucks but if Drury can somehow bait a team into a
1 for 1 trade with us getting a young guy who also hasn’t put it together yet you take it.


Kakko is starting to remind me of that Finnish kid on Edmonton a few years back.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Were they also missing Fox and Chytil against Winnipeg? That and the schedule was a bad combo. Plus the fact that Minny is better than their record and desperate for a win and it all adds up to a shit night and they still got a point. Only 2 teams in the league with more points. People need to relax.

All I see is excuses. The Rangers without Fox are worse than the Oilers without McDavid. Weren't the Wild also missing their best defenseman?