Post-Game Talk: Mild

[PuckLuck3043]

I never said he doesn't try but he also doesn't really do anything.

Lafreniere hits and hustles and gets a lot of criticism. What's the difference?

The difference is that Cuylle is new and the copium is fresh.

To me, he looks like another young player that's going to plug a hole in the lineup without having a real impact.

Which is fine. Where he was picked; he's an NHL player. That's great. That being said, I don't really understand the burning desire to move him up in the lineup. I don't want to move anyone up. At 5v5, I pretty much hate this entire forward corps outside of Panarin and Kreider.

There is no copium. He's been good. He has only played 11 NHL games so you actually don't know what the kid develop into.

 

[chosen]

This was your typical Rangers game: Come out like gang busters for first 5-10 minutes....then one penalty/mistake snowballs into an unmitigated disaster.

Oddly contradicts the oft-said "Why do they always come out flat?"

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

I think probably my favorite message from this week was whoever was making fun of JD for squealing when they got Braden Schneider lmao

 

[Machinehead]

There is no copium. He's been good. He has only played 11 NHL games so you actually don't know what the kid develop into.

I said multiple times it wasn't a comment on his long-term outcome.

I just think this team is in such a state that people are excited to see slightly above average speed and normal ass forechecking.

 

[Machinehead]

I think probably my favorite message from this week was whoever was making fun of JD for squealing when they got Braden Schneider lmao

That's come up a few times LMAO

Drury did have a very bad first summer with trades and signings, I'll give you that, but the previous regime's drafting is all-time bad.

It's justice that that's finally getting talked about.

 

[chosen]

Rangers in 1st place.

Lose game in OT on road right after Fox, Chytil, and Shesterkin go down.

Some fans ready to jump off the top of a building.

Uneffing believable.

 

[will1066]

You guys finally on the wagon about Zib. He's a one-dimensional player and a fraud superstar. Been saying it for a long time and no one believed me. Most of the core are one-dimensional players who do certain things at elite levels, but it takes a couple of high-end players with compete toolboxes to win today's league.

 

[Machinehead]

That's another thing with Cuylle.

He's like basically meeting draft expectations and while I get why people like that, it's another thing that should just be normal.

Right now, he's like one of one in that department.

 

[Machinehead]

You guys finally on the wagon about Zib. He's a one-dimensional player and a fraud superstar. Been saying it for a long time and no one believed me.

People believe you.

Like I said before, I think a lot of folks are just not bothering after wins anymore.

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

That's come up a few times LMAO

Drury did have a very bad first summer with trades and signings, I'll give you that, but the previous regime's drafting is all-time bad.

It's justice that that's finally getting talked about.

The Lias pick is the one I can’t get over. How do you take a guy due to perceived high-floor and intangibles and then they’re literally not even an NHL player? Awful pick

 

[Machinehead]

The Lias pick is the one I can’t get over. How do you take a guy due to perceived high-floor and intangibles and then they’re literally not even an NHL player? Awful pick

That's Howden-Lemieux syndrome.

Gorton thought whining was compete level and that not being able to skate was hustle.

I'll give Howden credit for putting together a career despite not being able to skate.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

That's another thing with Cuylle.

He's like basically meeting draft expectations and while I get why people like that, it's another thing that should just be normal.

Right now, he's like one of one in that department.

Well, let's see how Berard, Sykora, BMB, Othmann, Perrault, and others do in the next few years.

 

[Machinehead]

The Lafreniere and Kakko picks are the picks you had to make but Gordon, JD, and Co. give me no indication they were making the right picks if they came lower.

They're not taking Stutzle 3OA. Stutzle can skate.

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

That's Howden-Lemieux syndrome.

Gorton thought whining was compete level and that not being able to skate was hustle.

I'll give Howden credit for putting together a career despite not being able to skate.

Speaking of the mac trade, apparently Hajek was Drurys guy that he like personally scouted out as assistant GM lmao

 

[Machinehead]

Speaking of the mac trade, apparently Hajek was Drurys guy that he like personally scouted out as assistant GM lmao

Well, that's the other thing. I've said it many times before: going from GM to AGM isn't exactly a revolution. We've done that all the way back to when Slats started.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Do I need to break out the wambulence again?

 

[RangersFan1994]

Rangers should know by now to play for full 60 minutes and not just 1 period. This shows the Rangers need much better vocal type of leadership on the roster. Mika why does he have an A on his jersey. What leadership does Mr DJ provide. I'd give Lindgren an A. Mika is too passive to be a leader. It runs through the team to be passive and soft

 

[Machinehead]

Well, let's see how Berard, Sykora, BMB, Othmann, Perrault, and others do in the next few years.

Out of those, Perrault is a guy just dripping with skill.

We so desperately need that. Everyone on the team except Panarin and Fox handle the puck like a toddler handles expensive china.

Everyone else. Even the good players.

I think it's a bigger problem than our lack of speed.

 

[GG96]

I don’t know if I made it obvious…. I really really hate Mika’s game right now

He needs some desperate 1 on 1 coaching

And let’s hire a sports psychologist for Kakko

I’m going to root like hell for him because he seems like a good guy and a team first player. But, he isn’t a 1C on a Championship team. He is a PP specialist and doesn’t drive enough during 5on5 play

 

[Boris Zubov]

You guys finally on the wagon about Zib. He's a one-dimensional player and a fraud superstar. Been saying it for a long time and no one believed me. Most of the core are one-dimensional players who do certain things at elite levels, but it takes a couple of high-end players with compete toolboxes to win today's league.

I've been thinking it since the covid playoffs.

 

[80shockeywasbuns]

I've been thinking it since the covid playoffs.

Were his 5v5 impacts always this poor? I remember around the time of the Buch “trade” some people were suggesting that it was Buch driving the bus and Zib really struggled away from him. These are the people that probably were getting clowned and called dorks and yet here we are

 

[Greg02]

That's the thing that gets me.

They kind of abandoned the rebuild in the summer of 2019. I think it was a combination of Panarin becoming available and "hey, most guys that go 2OA are automatic, so Kakko is another star." I don't blame them for thinking that.

But then like, an elite center became very available and they didn't seem that serious about pursuing it.

The unique set of circumstances disrupting the rebuild and Zibanejad being the 1C at the time, I can totally wrap my head around. When Eichel was the market, they were also presented with an alternative on the short track and well and truly decided that Zibanejad was their guy.

Let's be real here. If we traded for Eichel an earthquake would have hit while he was getting his surgery, then the NHL would rule that he's ineligible for LTIR because it was an act of god or something.

 

[Machinehead]

Were his 5v5 impacts always this poor? I remember around the time of the Buch “trade” some people were suggesting that it was Buch driving the bus and Zib really struggled away from him. These are the people that probably were getting clowned and called dorks and yet here we are

It's not that it's that bad.

It's that we're relying on him to be a superstar because of the shortcomings elsewhere, and there's probably 20 centers better.

He's still more effective than 90% of the league. It's more so that you gave him this sweeping NMC, this is what you have now, and you really need him to be better than 99% of the league. He never has been.

 

[Machinehead]

Let's be real here. If we traded for Eichel an earthquake would have hit while he was getting his surgery, then the NHL would rule that he's ineligible for LTIR because it was an act of god or something.

I don't know.

The more I watch this, the less I think the Rangers are somehow cursed, and the more I think they just suck at building a winner and haven't made a meaningful front office change in almost 25 years.

That makes more sense to me than the hoodoo.

 

[chosen]

The Lafreniere and Kakko picks are the picks you had to make but Gordon, JD, and Co. give me no indication they were making the right picks if they came lower.

They're not taking Stutzle 3OA. Stutzle can skate.

Miller and Chytil were good picks and I remain alone on the Isle of Schneider Will Pan Out.

You guys finally on the wagon about Zib. He's a one-dimensional player and a fraud superstar. Been saying it for a long time and no one believed me. Most of the core are one-dimensional players who do certain things at elite levels, but it takes a couple of high-end players with compete toolboxes to win today's league.

How can a player be one-dimensional when he's always a top 2 point-getter while playing solid D?