TheSentinel
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Don't worry, The Kings make friends on the ice all the time, Brown/Doan Cliffy/everyone-else
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Don't worry, The Kings make friends on the ice all the time, Brown/Doan Cliffy/everyone-else
KINGS17
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If the Kings were to resign Lucic to the same numbered contract as the Ducks resigned Kesler to (6 Years, $6.875M AAV, 41M), would you be happy about it? Or would you think its too long too much?
I think it would be just right.
I think it would be just right.
I'd want less term because of his plying style but he'll get at least 6 years from someone.
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Steve Zissou
I'll order you a red cap and a Speedo.
I don't think Dean would pull another Cloutier by signing a player without seeing how well they play for us or gelling with the culture already in place.
Article: An Insider’s Look At Milan Lucic And What He Brings To LA
Didn't see this in this or the previous thread.
An Insider’s Look At Milan Lucic And What He Brings To LA
Didn't see this in this or the previous thread.
An Insider’s Look At Milan Lucic And What He Brings To LA
deeshamrock
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It won't come to that (nor do Ithink it's good to have that many players {Kopi, Carter, Brown, Quick (turning 30 next year , locked up to 2023)} in their 30' on LTC's. )
With what they need to pony up for Kopi next year, they can't afford to give Lucic want he feels is fair market value, esp if he has a rebound year, he thinks he's a top power forward in the league and wants a contract that supports that. Giving him what he feels is fair added to Kopi's new deal doean't leave much left for the following year when both Pearson and TT will need LTC's at the same time.
DL traded for Lucic for a push for the Cup next year (which I don't see as a difference maker, having seen him play ALOT on the East coast). What I saw in thei years playoffs was a lot of top end skill , and speed and a lot of young skileld players being difference makers. That is how the NHL is trending, not getting 'big gritty players' . They can't afford to keep him, it's a rental trade , like Sekera's, that giving up 1st round picks and top prospects for a 'quick fix' that I disagree with, it rarely works.
The reason Lucic was traded was because contract talks ended early in last season when he (and his agent) wouldn't back down from their LTC term stance (according to NESN). They wanted a 8r deal, in the 7M range and the B's wanted less term. The Kings won't give him that but the Canucks will, he's from Vancouver and hasn't' been shy about saying how much he'd love to play there in his home town and I believe Benning will overpay. THey tried trading for him but the asking price from the B's was too high.
You have to look at this from lucic's point of view, he'll be 28 and this will be his chance for a top dollar LTC, he 'll wan7 or 8 yrs. It's his payoff time.
So I'm guessing DL will have a decision to make come Feb, trade deadline. If he knows he can't resign Lucic, he has to move him to try to get some value back from what he lost trading for him.
KingsFan7824
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If the Kings are out of the playoff race. If they're in the mix, he's not trading him. Why bother getting him if you're not going to see it through if you have a shot?
deeshamrock
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I agree, that's why I don't like giving up/overpaying for a quick fix. Lucic isn't an upgrade, IMO, when you have the same player Dustin brown on the team who the coach won't put back on the 1st line for the past 2 seasons. IF you wanted to trade to a top winger, Lucic wouldn't be it, they didn't need another gritty big forward. Esp one who has a strong suit in taking cheap shots and getting bad penalities. Don't forget he has to adjust to a tougher conference, tougher division, much more difficult system and a hard ass coach. He's not Gabby, he doesn't have the speed and pure skill pedigree.
Last year, the Kings weren't a playoff team, and DL didn't recognize that, he made a heart over head decision trading for Sekera. A player who he couldn't resign.
Hopefully, this year, he'll be more level headed where they stand in Feb and hopefully the team has a strong start from Oct on and doesn't put themselves in that position next year.
Anonymous028
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Lucic and brown have never been the same player, and haven't even been similar players since 2012.
Dustin has gone soft.
Dustin has gone soft.
Reclamation Project
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Hopefully the Kings will take a different approach to this season opposed to their usual one of dicking off for two months.
Steve Zissou
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Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
If they didn't learn that from last season, they never will.
I'm hoping that's what tempers Drew into bringing it every night instead of just conserving (though reducing minutes will help that too).
We should ask Ron to talk to Drew about bringing it everyday
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Reclamation Project
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Drew shouldn't be playing 30 minutes a night. He was a beast last year though. He's gonna have a monster season.
I'm more concerned with Kopitar. Shoot the goddamn puck.
I'm more concerned with Kopitar. Shoot the goddamn puck.
KingsFan7824
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Yeah. Some teammates getting older, inevitable change from non-performance, miss the playoffs after winning the Cup, etc. You only get so many cracks at it. They've won 2. If there was ever a time to have some extra motivation, it's after last year.
If the lack of rest thing is real, and I can buy it, then the whole team should have no excuse. Including Lucic, who also missed the playoffs, and is also playing for a contract. You were sort of hoping that Williams would've had one of those contract years, even at his age, but then he didn't. No guarantee in that regard.
Depending on how much they have to give Kopitar, this year could be their last best real chance. Maybe last year was, who knows. How they come out of the gate should say a lot. They won't win every game obviously, or even look good every game, but you hope there's a game in and game out focus. A purpose.
KingsFan7824
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Career lows in goals, shots, and penalty minutes. Whatever the reason for that, be it family, or an actual goal scorer on his wing, or tired, etc, when Kopitar is into it, the Kings are tough to beat. Not that he should be fighting, but when he's at least somewhat willing to go at it with a guy like Burrows, that's the kind of Kopitar the Kings need. The guy that's physically, and mentally, and emotionally on the ice.
Kopitar isn't a goal scorer, but he's also not a 16 goal guy, it doesn't matter how much more talent the Kings have than in previous years, or how low scoring the league is.
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Steve Zissou
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Bryanbryoil
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Please tell Looch to take it easy on the Oilers and to kick the snot out of the Flames and Canucks 
The Kings have a number of my favorite non Oilers NHLers in Doughty, Looch and Clifford.
The Kings have a number of my favorite non Oilers NHLers in Doughty, Looch and Clifford.Please tell Looch to take it easy on the Oilers and to kick the snot out of the Flames and Canucks
Absolutely not
Sacha Baron Corbin
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Please tell Looch to take it easy on the Oilers and to kick the snot out of the Flames and Canucks
We're still salty about the Oilers ending our season
PJ Kings Hockey
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Please tell Looch to take it easy on the Oilers and to kick the snot out of the Flames and Canucks
I'd be fine with that.
We're still salty about the Oilers ending our season
In my eyes, the Flames and the Kings ended our season.
The Oilers gifted us a high point in our season, an 8-2 victory, keeping us in the playoff hunt. Then the Kings lost 3 out of the next 4 games, with the Flames putting the final nail in the coffin and eliminating the Kings from playoff contention. In the last week of the season with the playoffs on the line, the Kings score only 1 goal against the Canucks and 1 goal against the Flames. They give up 4 goals to Edmonton.
The Kings played 5 games against the Flames during the season and only managed to win 1 of those games. The Flames ended the season with 97 points and made the playoffs. The Kings ended the season with 95 and went to Las Vegas to party.
