Mike Richards VI (UGH): The Armageddon Edition (MOD NOTE POST #1)

[AKAY47]

You serious?

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/prescription-painkiller-overdose-deaths-rise/story?id=14858375

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/oxyco...in-young-adults-ontario-study-shows-1.2696995

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/15/health/deadly-dose-jackson-rummler/

That's just a couple of articles. Heath Ledger had a dangerous cocktail of drugs, including Oxy, found in his toxicology report.

Man, it's obviously severe. But to terminate a contract? That's not even close enough. This is going to set a precedent, it'll be historical. People/teams/owners/managers will look back on the Mike Richards situation and say "Wow, this is how you can get out of a ridiculous contract? Sign me up". OxyContin is nowhere close to being enough to terminate a contract. Stoll had cocaine on him, albeit his contract was up. Voynov alleged domestic violence. There's been graver instances that did not lead to a termination of a contract. What Lombardi needs is something historical, something that won't set a precedent and it'll have to trump cases because if it's that easy, teams will do it all the time.

 

[kingsfan28]

two things come to mind the Canadian Privacy Laws and Richards inner circle containing the situation till he got his money.

Someone was throwing around some serious weight yesterday preventing all of the hockey/sports writers from commenting on this. It's no surprise at all it was a non sports news site that broke it, which basically said FU to the gag order.

 

[agentfouser]

Man, it's obviously severe. But to terminate a contract? That's not even close enough. This is going to set a precedent, it'll be historical. People/teams/owners/managers will look back on the Mike Richards situation and say "Wow, this is how you can get out of a ridiculous contract? Sign me up". OxyContin is nowhere close to being enough to terminate a contract. Stoll had cocaine on him, albeit his contract was up. Voynov alleged domestic violence. There's been graver instances that did not lead to a termination of a contract. What Lombardi needs is something historical, something that won't set a precedent and it'll have to trump cases because if it's that easy, teams will do it all the time.

The thing is that it was at the border which could affect his ability to travel between the US and Canada. Unlike Voynov, where that obviously doesn't apply; in Stoll's case his contract was up anyhow.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Man, it's obviously severe. But to terminate a contract? That's not even close enough. This is going to set a precedent, it'll be historical. People/teams/owners/managers will look back on the Mike Richards situation and say "Wow, this is how you can get out of a ridiculous contract? Sign me up". OxyContin is nowhere close to being enough to terminate a contract. Stoll had cocaine on him, albeit his contract was up. Voynov alleged domestic violence. There's been graver instances that did not lead to a termination of a contract. What Lombardi needs is something historical, something that won't set a precedent and it'll have to trump cases because if it's that easy, teams will do it all the time.

Could be a strong enough case when everything is laid out to get a settlement that's like a partial termination. Face recapture cap hit and hand Richards a big check.

 

[Buddy The Elf]

No no no no. This can't be it. That's not nearly enough to terminate a contract. OxyContin? That's laughable. My aunt got those for pain killers. There's absolutely no, zero, zilch way Lombardi's would terminate a contract for possession of OxyContin. What Voynov allegedly did is TEN times worse than this and DL never terminated his contract.

Please tell me there's more to this, please.

First of all, we barely know anything. But more importantly, if he were charged and convicted of drug smuggling, he could lose is ability to cross the border (see the post below). But I doubt the Kings would go this route if it were just a possibility. My guess is there is more to the story and there is a reason he hasn't been formally charged and that is has been kept quiet up until a few hours ago.

He is inadmissible into the United States with a drug conviction other than a one time possession of marijuana of less than 30 grams. There are waivers than can be applied for (that's an awkward sentence) but depending on the actual charge for which he is convicted They can be tough to get.

Thanks for the info!

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Man, it's obviously severe. But to terminate a contract? That's not even close enough. This is going to set a precedent, it'll be historical. People/teams/owners/managers will look back on the Mike Richards situation and say "Wow, this is how you can get out of a ridiculous contract? Sign me up". OxyContin is nowhere close to being enough to terminate a contract. Stoll had cocaine on him, albeit his contract was up. Voynov alleged domestic violence. There's been graver instances that did not lead to a termination of a contract. What Lombardi needs is something historical, something that won't set a precedent and it'll have to trump cases because if it's that easy, teams will do it all the time.

The CBA doesn't state that "something historical" has to occur for a team to have grounds to terminate a player who is found to be in violation of his SPC.

The CBA, arbitrator, courts, what have you, will sort it out.

Ultimately, this could end up in court should the PA challenge it and they could reach some sort of settlement with payment for Richards to go away.

 

[Buddy The Elf]

The other thing you guys are ignoring with Stoll is his charges were reduced to misdemeanors. I'm not an immigration expert but I believe the felony conviction would've likely created an immigration issue for himself as well. Plus the fact the Mike was crossing a border is a major issue. Those guys don't **** around (on either side of the border).

 

[JCabranes]

Man, it's obviously severe. But to terminate a contract? That's not even close enough. This is going to set a precedent, it'll be historical. People/teams/owners/managers will look back on the Mike Richards situation and say "Wow, this is how you can get out of a ridiculous contract? Sign me up". OxyContin is nowhere close to being enough to terminate a contract. Stoll had cocaine on him, albeit his contract was up. Voynov alleged domestic violence. There's been graver instances that did not lead to a termination of a contract. What Lombardi needs is something historical, something that won't set a precedent and it'll have to trump cases because if it's that easy, teams will do it all the time.

If Slava is convicted of his charges he will be deported and as a result his contract will be terminated. If Stoll had been convicted of possession of any one of the controlled substances he would have been deported and his career as an NHL'er would be over (although it might be over now, who wants to take a chance on him). Possession of narcotics have serious immigration consequences and it cracks me up to see some of you posting that this isn't enough. You clearly don't understand immigration law. Please tell me how it isn't a material breach of his contract if he can't play games in the United States?

 

[Omni Owl]

Welp, if there's anyone else on the team with a drug/drinking problem, now's the time to sober the **** up.

 

[TheSentinel]

Welp, if there's anyone else on the team with a drug/drinking problem, now's the time to sober the **** up.

OR step up and get help, hopefully

 

[KingClipper]

Man, it's obviously severe. But to terminate a contract? That's not even close enough. This is going to set a precedent, it'll be historical.

Setting a precedent isn't always a bad thing. Getting your ass cut for something as serious as smuggling drugs across the border (if true) is a precedent that probably should have been set already.

 

[theMajor]

Welp, if there's anyone else on the team with a drug/drinking problem, now's the time to sober the **** up.

I cant help but feel bad for Mike right now. I know hes an adult and its 100% his responsibility, but it doesnt sound like hes in a great place (especially after reading his fiance ditched him). Whether or not he ever plays pro hockey again, I hope he gets his **** together....and fast

 

[Reclamation Project]

It does sound like he's in a dark place. Really sad.

 

[Buddy The Elf]

I think it is safe to say regardless of what happens with the NHL/NHLPA battle on this issue, Mike's days on the Kings are over. That's just way too much drama for one season.

 

[TonySCV]

"Paul Friesen ‏@friesensunmedia 7m7 minutes ago
Source says Mike Richards was formally arrested at border crossing, not merely detained for questioning. Investigation now at two-week mark."

So he was arrested.

Can you imagine how pissed Dean was when we found out Richards had been arrested days earlier but neither Richards nor his agent told Dean until draft day? I'd be furious.

 

[AKAY47]

Mike Richards' days with the Kings should've been over last summer.

 

[Omni Owl]

Opiates are no joke. Its really easy to lose your way and become dependent.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/sources-kings-found-out-about-richards-at-draft/

Watch the top video, the one with the radio studio

My video player's not working, could you tell me what was said?

 

[Buddy The Elf]

Can you imagine how pissed Dean was when we found out Richards had been arrested days earlier but neither Richards nor his agent told Dean until draft day? I'd be furious.

Or what if he found out from someone else? I think that would make it even worse. They probably were both just trying to make it to July 1st without it making the news.

 

[Face Wash]

Kings have nothing to lose here but to try. If it fails they were ready to buy him out anyway. Also this could be a precedent that tells all players, especially those in their locker room to stay in the clear or we'we'll do all that's necessary to cut you loose.

Either way the Kings have a little cap space now and can breathe easier with or without a favorable ruLing in the Voynov Case. Don't think they'll be active tomorrow but they're in a better place now. All I care abt.

 

[onlyalad]

Man, it's obviously severe. But to terminate a contract? That's not even close enough. This is going to set a precedent, it'll be historical. People/teams/owners/managers will look back on the Mike Richards situation and say "Wow, this is how you can get out of a ridiculous contract? Sign me up". OxyContin is nowhere close to being enough to terminate a contract. Stoll had cocaine on him, albeit his contract was up. Voynov alleged domestic violence. There's been graver instances that did not lead to a termination of a contract. What Lombardi needs is something historical, something that won't set a precedent and it'll have to trump cases because if it's that easy, teams will do it all the time.

Richards knew he was in trouble two weeks ago and said nothing.
Kings were in mid talks to trade him when they found out.
What if ( speculation) a team wanted a physical before making the deal.
Richards can't go because the CBS is holding his passport.
That is a materal breach , failure to appear.

 

[Chain]

That hurts to read. I'm still stinging years after a girl pulled a move like this with me. So...so true.

Sorry man. I think we've all been there brother.

Why does it take so long for Lombardi to find out Richards was arrested?

Well, apparently some of the players didn't even know and were asking reporters what was going on. That's just as surprising to me. You'd think they'd be among the first to know since they're supposed to be a tight knit group.

 

[JCabranes]

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Let's see if this works. A little education on the immigration consequences of drug convictions.

 

[kingsfan28]

Can you imagine how pissed Dean was when we found out Richards had been arrested days earlier but neither Richards nor his agent told Dean until draft day? I'd be furious.

No kidding. It only made it worse as he was trying to move him on draft day and find out in the middle of a deal. No wonder he looked so sour in that picture.

 

[417th]

Richards knew he was in trouble two weeks ago and said nothing.
Kings were in mid talks to trade him when they found out.
What if ( speculation) a team wanted a physical before making the deal.
Richards can't go because the CBS is holding his passport.
That is a materal breach , failure to appear.

This keeps getting forgotten. We were in talks with 2 different teams looking to make a deal for Richards. DL is the person who backed out and told the other two GMs that they had a problem in moving MR. This will have to be taken into consideration during any arb hearing too. I don't know how significant of an impact that it could have but it will have to have one. The Kings were unable to move MR as a result of his own legal troubles. It will have an impact.