Value of: Mike Matheson

[jfhabs]

You're not wrong. He's a decent offensive d-man that most teams have one or two better versions of. A bit like Schultz, a few years ago, who was traded for what?

I disagree, he's been so much better than that in Montreal. Watch a Montreal game and focus on him. He's very noticeably good now... there may be some teams with 2 better dman, but not a ton. Some playoffs teams don't for sure. I wouldn't be surprised if he finished the year with 50-55 pts this year.

He had a great season last year but I don't see him repeating it. MTL would be wise to cash out at the top

Why wouldn't he repeat or do better over a full season, with hopefully an healthier line up?
It's not like he slowed down or anything. The guy skates like the wind.

 

[majormajor]

If Matheson is so good in Montreal (and he has looked great in my viewings) then they should just keep him.

Either 1) his trade value will only increase over the next couple years as it catches up to his higher level of play.

Or 2) you just keep him for your next competitive team that will emerge in a couple years. He doesn't look anywhere close to breaking down, might be one of those D that plays their best hockey in their mid-30s.

If you sell now you don't get much.

 

[MasterMatt25]

Why would he be for sale? It's clear he's going to be our top pairing guy until Guhle can take over full-time. There's no need to rush and move him out

 

[SamHabsFan]

I dont think EDM has any interest, but I would absolutely not trade Matheson for a 1st and broberg...we have like 7 D prospect better than Broberg, it doesnt move the needle at all... Id rather keep matheson as a Vet presence for the remaining of his contract honestly. He seems to be very motivated and I wouldnt be shocked if he has another career year

 

[domiwroze]

I don't get why we would trade Matheson, there's no rush. He fits perfectly Marty's style on top of that.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I don't get why we would trade Matheson, there's no rush. He fits perfectly Marty's style on top of that.

Habs wouldn't trade Matheson. The OP was trying to get props for Matheson but it backfired. lol

If Matheson is healthy this season, he will pile on the points.

 

[HabsAddict]

Matheson had 34 points in 48 games. Over 81 games that's 57 points.

He's worth more then a mid late second to us, but if the offer was higher at the TD, we're all ears.

 

[Lockin17]

I don't get why we would trade Matheson, there's no rush. He fits perfectly Marty's style on top of that.

Ghule, Wifi, Trudeau, Harris, Engstrom, Hutson in the pipeline on the left.

Matheson's value is really high at the moment.
Since Habs are rebuilding , they should take advantage of this

 

[JianYang]

The Habs are extremely short in experience on defense. It's basically just Savard and matheson who are not inexperienced.

You just can't trade all of it away, and if they were to trade one of those guys, it's Savard.

Matheson's service isn't done yet with the Habs. I just don't see it.

He had a great season last year but I don't see him repeating it. MTL would be wise to cash out at the top

Thats what was being said after his final season in Pittsburgh too.

 

[SlafCaufield]

If the Habs hang on to him until the deadline, I could see and Ekholm type return for him

 

[Mackiaveli]

that most teams have one or two better versions of

Matheson scored 34p in 48gp with the Habs - 58p pace in an 82g season, which would have put him at 13th in points. On what planet does that make him the, 30-60th best defencemen in the league? lmfao

 

[OtherThingsILike]

Matheson scored 34p in 48gp with the Habs - 58p pace in an 82g season, which would have put him at 13th in points. On what planet does that make him the, 30-60th best defencemen in the league? lmfao

Most teams have at least one better defenseman to give 24 minutes a night to.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

He should go to LA. Would be a good fit with Doughty or Roy. Maybe Calgary as a Hanfin replacement

 

[McJedi]

Top 2 LHD
PP specialiste
His contrat is gold

What would be the value.

I think he’d fetch a 2nd rounder. Or a B prospect like Zary level.

Contract isn’t gold (it’s ok), he’s definitely not a top pair (middle pair level) and he’s a specialist.

 

[Petes2424]

I've watched him in Montreal. He's a good option there, but that's because of a lack of competition. He's getting more minutes, more developed, yet not a second pairing on a good team. Would a team trade a 1st for him, sure, it's possible, but that team would have to be desperate and lack better options in the pp.

That’s exactly what it is. There’s such a lack of competition in certain cities, he’s the type who benefits greatly. We would talk about him much differently if he was in Colorado let’s say. He’d be playing but fans would have him on their hit list to be replaced…

That goes for young prospects too. There’s several teams where Edvinsson and Clarke are 100% getting major NHL minutes on opening night. Some of those teams are better teams than LA or Detroit too. So another prospect on a different team gets props by fans for making his team, while people think there must be something wrong with guys like Clark. It’s just not the case.

Competition and philosophy has a major effect on different teams.. it’s not black and white, as many fans believe it is.

 

[Scintillating10]

Top 2 LHD
PP specialiste
His contrat is gold

What would be the value.

Montreal not moving Matheson. He's only experienced guy they have on backend

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Fans of other teams clearly aren’t aware of how great Matheson was last year. He was basically PPG on an anemic offensive team once he got comfortable post injury return. He’s solid defensively as well.

He’ll be one of the points leaders for Dmen this year and this thread will be worth a revisit.

 

[samsagat]

Matheson is a Petry 2.0, a guy who has all the tools but is weak in the mental department. Both guys are the kind who age well.

But the Matheson v.2.0, at least the one we've seen last year, doesn't seem to have sequences where he totally loose his confidence and play like a deer in the headlights, like Petry was.
Petry was a doctor Jerkyll and Mr Hyde type of player, capable of the better or the worst, but never in the middle.

Matheson was +7 on a team that finished bottom 5 in the league last year. That by itself is an accomplishment. I know he has a reputation of being so-so defensively but it wasn't the case last year. He was very solid all around.

Personally I wouldn't trade him yet, he's a proud local boy happy to be here, a rare veteran on our defense corp and a good example for our youngsters.

We'll see later but now isn't the best timing.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Not impressed.

 

[Scintillating10]

Top 2 LHD
PP specialiste
His contrat is gold

What would be the value.

Habs probably wouldn't move him unless blown away. Montreal stacked on left D. But yeah it don't hurt to ask.

 

[Baksfamous112]

I think he’d fetch a 2nd rounder. Or a B prospect like Zary level.

Contract isn’t gold (it’s ok), he’s definitely not a top pair (middle pair level) and he’s a specialist.

Your take is aging like fine wine. As always.

 

[jfhabs]

I've watched him in Montreal. He's a good option there, but that's because of a lack of competition. He's getting more minutes, more developed, yet not a second pairing on a good team. Would a team trade a 1st for him, sure, it's possible, but that team would have to be desperate and lack better options in the pp.

I can you have watched him and come up with this conclusion...? I mean, he's not a stud number 1 defenseman on a contender for sure. But very very easily a second pairing on ANY team. Worth a 1st + without much hesitation. Sub 5M for 3 years is very good value too.

If Matheson is so good in Montreal (and he has looked great in my viewings) then they should just keep him.

Either 1) his trade value will only increase over the next couple years as it catches up to his higher level of play.

Or 2) you just keep him for your next competitive team that will emerge in a couple years. He doesn't look anywhere close to breaking down, might be one of those D that plays their best hockey in their mid-30s.

If you sell now you don't get much.

Oh, we are keeping him!

 

[pth2]

Ghule, Wifi, Trudeau, Harris, Engstrom, Hutson in the pipeline on the left.

Matheson's value is really high at the moment.
Since Habs are rebuilding , they should take advantage of this

Team building isn't marbles. You need some veterans to keep the team competitive, insulate the younger players, etc.

 

[BHD]

Rightly or wrongly, he took a lot of criticism in Florida. He then solidified his game in Pittsburgh, and is now a veteran presence in Montreal. IMHO, the Habs should keep him around. You can't have all youth on the back end.

 

[AlexGretzchenvid]

He makes near $5M
has 3 full years left
to turn 30 during the season
hes a LD
hes not a top pair D

yet you think he’s worth a mid 1st+ quality prospect….

reality check is needed.

Chiarot…

Nuff said.

Matheson isn't a PP specialist/QB, like, at all. He can play there, but I'd be reluctant to describe him as anything more than a decent solution. Lacks high-end vision and passing. OP, FFS, you saw Andrei Markov playing for the Habs. THAT was a PP QB.

He's a LHD best cast as a #2 or #3 who skates very well, has otherwise pretty good offensive tools, brings some physicality, and isn't awful defensively but definitely has reading flaws which prevent him from being a legit two-way #1 (because his offensive tools aren't good enough to be a #1 solely on that basis, like, say, Erik Karlsson). The kind of player you ideally want achoring your second pair, or complement a better D-Men on your first pair. He's the #1 in Montreal (...for now), but ideally, somebody else push him down by the end of the season.

He definitely has value though.

This is it.