Confirmed with Link: Mikael Granlund for a 2nd Round pick

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Nine goals while playing tons of minutes in ANY top six + PP is borderline ZAR shit.

EDIT: Actually even ZAR scored nine in 45 games and eight in 43 games lol

 

[HandshakeLine]

Did we accidentally trade for the wrong player?

 

[dogthateats]

One more point while playing top line minutes and top PP and 2 more games than Zucker. Also he only has 9 goals to Zucker's 17 and is a wonderful -16 (I know it's basically a useless stat) to Zucker breaking even.

I know all of that. I am just trying to stay positive and give him a chance. It is so annoying reading hundreds of posts acting like he has the offensive productivity of ZAR.

 

[Jacob]

30% of his career points come on the PP. That is quite high for a guy that won’t sniff our top unit.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Also why is this team absolutely allergic to acquiring any forward under the age of 31?

 

[Gurglesons]

Did we accidentally trade for the wrong player?

Yes we meant to acquire Mikael Backlund

 

[HandshakeLine]

Yes we meant to acquire Mikael Backlund

You know what, I'd almost believe it with this club.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

This guy's playmaking ability better be like if Ron Francis and Jumbo Joe had a lovechild.

Best of luck flashing it with Jeff Carter and Danton Heinen, I guess. With 70+ DZ starts.

 

[SteadyYeti]

To go from blueger to granlund for 30 picks is a good move. Better in September. But it's all water under the bridge

You got 24 hrs to swing a Jimmy Blockbuster.

Would you do Guentzel and Dumoulin for Pettersson? Call up Ty Smith. Addition by subtraction

In terms of this move and today

Crosby/Guentzel
Malkin/Zucker
Granlund/Rakell
Carter/Rust

If you wanna spread your jam.

 

[Pancakes]

This guy's playmaking ability better be like if Ron Francis and Jumbo Joe had a lovechild.

Best of luck flashing it with Jeff Carter and Danton Heinen, I guess. With 70+ DZ starts.

Granlund is a very crafty passer. It's the one thing he can do well. The only thing really.

But I'm not sure how much of a need that fills when we already have a team that overpasses the puck all the time lol

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Granlund is a very crafty passer. It's the one thing he can do well. The only thing really.

But I'm not sure how much of a need that fills when we already have a team that overpasses the puck all the time lol

Really though

Also why is this team absolutely allergic to acquiring any forward under the age of 31?

Might cost a 1st!

 

[HandshakeLine]

Granlund is a very crafty passer. It's the one thing he can do well. The only thing really.

But I'm not sure how much of a need that fills when we already have a team that overpasses the puck all the time lol

Yeah, like I get that Granlund has some attributes that a team would like to have, they're just none of the things we were actually lacking and were in need of.

That's just more fuel for the "team doesn't realize its own problems" pile, I guess.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Granlund is a very crafty passer. It's the one thing he can do well. The only thing really.

But I'm not sure how much of a need that fills when we already have a team that overpasses the puck all the time lol

Absolutely. Like if you were gonna get a guy that kinda sucks all over except one thing maybe make that one thing an ability to put the puck in the net? Especially on this team of ham-fists?

And not like the only thing they actually do well which is set up chances... that they can't finish?

 

[Pancakes]

Absolutely. Like if you were gonna get a guy that kinda sucks all over except one thing maybe make that one thing an ability to put the puck in the net? Especially on this team of ham-fists?

And not like they only thing they actually do well which is set up chances... that they can't finish?

Yeah like Boeser is a floater but at least with him I could say well he can put the puck in the net and we struggle badly at that.

Granlund is just another floaty old guy who has skill but declining physical attributes. And don't we have entirely too much of that already?

 

[Freeptop]

So, I still don't like the trade, but I do think there is a chance that Granlund can be better than he showed in Nashville.

For instance: his shooting percentage has basically stayed the same (around 8% for the Wild, and around 9% fo the Preds), but literally the moment he switched from the Wild to the Predators, his shot totals plummeted.
Shot totals his last three years with the Wild (81, 77 and 63 games played, respectively): 135, 124, 121
Shot total his first full year with the Preds: (63 games played): 94
Shot totals dropped even further from there.

Edit: the above numbers are all 5v5

That ~30 shot per season dropped right as he switched teams? That's almost certainly a reflection of a change in systems.

Granted, that still only translates to around 10 goals per season from him, which is not what you pay someone $5M per season for, but it at least shows that evaluating him based on his time with the Predators may not give a good view as to what he can do. There may have been a mismatch between player and system there.

 

[RSPens]

I know all of that. I am just trying to stay positive and give him a chance. It is so annoying reading hundreds of posts acting like he has the offensive productivity of ZAR.

I get that and I agree. I think he is a very good option to help the Pens bottom 6. I'm just kinda pissed that Hexie didn't get any retention and that he is signed for 2 more years. Are there no UFA's or players with 1 year left that could have helped the Pens bottom 6 just as much as Granlund? It just seems like he cleared cap just to fill it. Similar to how he got Geno, Letang and Rust to take slightly less than they would on the open market, only to waste the savings on signing Kappy to a contract that no other GM would have signed him to. He just got lucky that a team was willing to pick him up.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I do not get how he is going to help the bottom 6 one bit, unless we were bumping Rust to L3 and putting Granlund with Malkin.

 

[dogthateats]

I get that and I agree. I think he is a very good option to help the Pens bottom 6. I'm just kinda pissed that Hexie didn't get any retention and that he is signed for 2 more years. Are there no UFA's or players with 1 year left that could have helped the Pens bottom 6 just as much as Granlund? It just seems like he cleared cap just to fill it. Similar to how he got Geno, Letang and Rust to take slightly less than they would on the open market, only to waste the savings on signing Kappy to a contract that no other GM would have signed him to. He just got lucky that a team was willing to pick him up.

Yeah, I agree with all of that too. Granlund wouldn’t be a guy that I would have targeted. I am more pissed about how they dicked Malkin around.

 

[Pens1566]

I do not get how he is going to help the bottom 6 one bit, unless we were bumping Rust to L3 and putting Granlund with Malkin.

I've said it other threads, it's more likely that Rakell gets bumped down to L3 and Rust goes up with Sid. Because Sullivan ...

 

[Andy99]

So, anyone want to explain to me why Granlund is getting thrown onto the PK?

Or anything about any of these brilliant moves and player usage? It's above my pay grade.

Because two of Sullivan’s best PKers just got moved…it’s that simple lol

 

[RSPens]

They just have to have salary in and salary out. You don't seriously think they're done now do you?

If the only option available is Edmondson for a 1st...I sure hope someone hides Hexie's phone

 

[Trade]

I do not get how he is going to help the bottom 6 one bit, unless we were bumping Rust to L3 and putting Granlund with Malkin.

My wishful thinking is we add another potential top-sixer tomorrow to move either Zucker or Rust down to the third line with Granlund and El Jefe to really just stack the top-9.

 

[Ryder71]

If the only option available is Edmondson for a 1st...I sure who someone hides Hexie's phone

I don't think hexo's going to do that.

 

[HandshakeLine]

My wishful thinking is we add another potential top-sixer tomorrow to move either Zucker or Rust down to the third line with Granlund and El Jefe to really just stack the top-9.

Yeah, if we're going to go with it, might as well lean into it as hard as we can.

Also, the absolute funniest situation would be us somehow trading Granlund tomorrow after playing him tonight.

 

[StaalForOne]

Yes we meant to acquire Mikael Backlund

I assumed he just typed Garland wrong when searching for players