Confirmed with Link: Mikael Granlund for a 2nd Round pick

[66-30-33]

I think the benefit with this is Granlund has always been a better W than C.



For the record…

Matheson when he wants to just friggin dominates his way into the offensive zone like a boss. I don't really follow those things anyway, I rather just watch.

 

[Gurglesons]

Matheson when he wants to just friggin dominates his way into the offensive zone like a boss. I don't really follow those things anyway, I rather just watch.

Granlund was the original Kaprizov in Minnie.

There’s a reason Nash originally moved Fiala for him.

Question is did he fall off because of age or because John Hynes is one of the worst coaches in the world and Nashville was even worse than Minnesota in terms of allowing offense.

 

[66-30-33]

Granlund was the original Kaprizov in Minnie.

There’s a reason Nash originally moved Fiala for him.

Question is did he fall off because of age or because John Hynes is one of the worst coaches in the world and Nashville was even worse than Minnesota in terms of allowing offense.

Hopefully Sully wont steal his soul.

 

[Gurglesons]

Hopefully Sully wont steal his soul.

I do not believe he is a player Sullivan will like or use properly.

 

[66-30-33]

I do not believe he is a player Sullivan will like or use properly.

Oh man I am so tired of that f***in guy.

 

[canadianguy77]

I have no idea.

I don’t like the trade or line. But at this time dude is a Penguin so I’ll root for him.

I’d roll..

Jake - Sid - Rakell
Zucker - Malkin - Granlund
Heinen - Poehling - Rust
DOC - Carter - Arci

I’d also pray there is another move coming..

That might be the only saving grace for Rust. Put him on the third line and hope it lights a fire under his ass. If it doesn’t, it’s time to cut ties with him too.

The only players this team should be looking at right now are guys that will give it their all every game. We can’t have guys taking weeks off at a time anymore.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I think the benefit with this is Granlund has always been a better W than C.

Whether he's center or wing won't matter a lick if Sullivan uses him on the third line with Carter at center and the same type of defensive zone deployment.

That's the problem. It's like Hextall and Sullivan didn't even discuss what they need. Hextall brought in an offensive playmaker while Sullivan seems to want a player that can plug into the third line as a defensive ace.

 

[Gurglesons]

Whether he's center or wing won't matter a lick if Sullivan uses him on the third line with Carter at center and the same type of defensive zone deployment.

That's the problem. It's like Hextall and Sullivan didn't even discuss what they need. Hextall brought in an offensive playmaker while Sullivan seems to want a player that can plug into the third line as a defensive ace.

I mean Granlund in his younger days was in Selke talks.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

It is nothing unsusual that we are told the player sucks or has warts when we make a move, surely, but outside of the Jack Johnson contract I don't recall the same level of "WTF was that" from fans of our newbies prior team.

Didn't fans say the same about Heinen, Rodrigues, Sheahan, Ceci and Gudbranson?
All of them had good years here. Even Kapanen did, when Leafs fans mocked him after the pickup. 30 points in 40 games when we won the division, I believe? Top ES producer?

Gotta shut out the noise from obnoxious, dumb fans and come to your own conclusions.
Let's look at career averages to get a better feel when making long term projections. He averages 53 points per 82 games (good). 16 goals per 82 games (very weak).
Pretty durable, which is nice. He's unpredictable, with big highs and lows.

That rate is concerning for me, since I don't think they'll give him PP1 here, and he'll be relied on to bring some scoring at ES in a defensive role (if he's 3C). For example Schmaltz was a career 2.15 or something, which is a big reason why I was high on him. It's a shame, because Granlund's a better PP player than Guentzel and he likely won't get the chance to help the top unit.

My expectations are low with how he'll be used here, and I think a lot of people have every right not to be happy right now. But I am allowing for the possibility for one of his positive spikes in play in a new environment. Chemistry is next to impossible to guess.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Rofl

 

[Gurglesons]

Rofl

Was waiting for you lol

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I mean Granlund in his younger days was in Selke talks.

Come on, now. He finished 13th in Selke voting *ONE* time back in 2016-17 at age 24 and never once got another Selke vote after that.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Was waiting for you lol

Sorry, had I known our big move was for Granlund, I would have been here faster.

 

[canadianguy77]

I want nothing to do with him trading POJ, Petts, or our 1st. I’d rather the new gm/front office deal with all of that after he’s been fired.

 

[Gurglesons]

Come on, now. He finished 13th in Selke voting *ONE* time back in 2016-17 at age 24 and never once got another Selke vote after that.

I just mean he isn’t really as bad as those charts make him seem.

I would not be surprised to see him get knocked out tomorrow and ala Rakell tho.

I hate this deal.

I want nothing to do with him trading POJ, Petts, or our 1st. I’d rather the new gm/front office deal with all of that after he’s been fired.

You think he’s going to be fired?

FSG has allowed him to bank roll like 100+ mil in one year.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I just mean he isn’t really as bad as those charts make him seem.

I would not be surprised to see him get knocked out tomorrow and ala Rakell tho.

I hate this deal.

I didn't say he was bad? I was saying he's not well suited to play the role Sullivan has the third line playing. Being average defensively is still a fish out of water with the usage Sullivan gives L3.

So either Sullivan has to run 3 offensive lines or Granlund's going to get caved in.

 

[canadianguy77]

I just mean he isn’t really as bad as those charts make him seem.

I would not be surprised to see him get knocked out tomorrow and ala Rakell tho.

I hate this deal.



You think he’s going to be fired?

FSG has allowed him to bank roll like 100+ mil in one year.

I don’t think they’re going to make the playoffs. I think that gets him fired.

 

[Gurglesons]

I don’t think they’re going to make the playoffs. I think that gets him fired.

It’ll be really hard for us to miss tbh.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

It’ll be really hard for us to miss tbh.

Cake schedule and games in hand.

So yeah.

Quick exit. But that is no different than before this trade.

If they win two games in the first round I will be surprised.

 

[AjaxTelamon]

The only line we consistently give heavy O zone starts to is Geno's line. Granlund will have to play with Geno I guess, and Rust to L3 with Carter. The issue being Carter and Rust are both defensive liabilities, and we just waived our best defensive LW in McGinn. And we just traded our shut down center.

I guess this is GMRH getting even for the "this is our roster" comment from Sully.

Good luck coach, you're gonna need it.

 

[Pengu]

Good passer....that's it
Soft
not great defensivly,
not the greatest work rate
Never shoots the puck
poor production without pp time
poor contract
Most will have soured on this player next season

 

[HandshakeLine]

Most have soured on this player NOW.

This team is so f***ing dumb.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

This team turned into such a joke.

f*** you Hextall

 

[Zbynek]

1% Defensive WAR. 4% WAR overall. For 3 years at 5M/per at age 31. To play on our third line with... (wait for it) BIG JEFF CARTER!!!!!!!!!

it's time for me to take a break from hockey.

 

[JTG]

Whether he's center or wing won't matter a lick if Sullivan uses him on the third line with Carter at center and the same type of defensive zone deployment.

That's the problem. It's like Hextall and Sullivan didn't even discuss what they need. Hextall brought in an offensive playmaker while Sullivan seems to want a player that can plug into the third line as a defensive ace.

He and Carter could hand off C/W duties to each other. Carter could take faceoffs and Granlund could lug the puck. Heinen is actually probably a really decent fit with Granlund.

I like the deal in terms of hockey, but I really don't like the deal in terms of what we gave up and how much term/money he has left.