OT: MIchigan Sports Thread: UM wins Natty Championship

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Just when you think the Lions can’t find a new way to lose they prove you wrong. Officials miss a delay of game, and the Ravens kick a NFL record 66 yard field goal that bounces off the crossbar and in. Unreal.

I dont want them to go 0-17 this year so I was kinda thinking this could be the one game they win lol. With that being said its still the exact game you want the Lions to play. Lose to a contender on the last play of the game, dont screw up the draft pick but be competitive and help build a culture.

I thought Julkian Okwara looked unblockable at times today, I think hes gonna see more playing time
 
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While the Lions continue to Lion, I'm still a Stafford fan. Happy to see him having success so far. And beating Brady today was a chef's kiss. Go Rams this year.
 
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Pistons media day today.

@Ed Ned and Leddy - What rotation (starters and reserves) do you want to see on opening night?

I want to start Cade, Saddiq, Jerami and Isaiah for sure. I'm not big on starting Killian right away at the beginning. I kind of want someone who is ready to attack the paint and/or can shoot from the outside. So I'm leaning towards Diallo or Frank Jackson.

And then off the bench I'm thinking Cory Joseph, Killian, Diallo/Frank Jackson, Olynyk and then I guess Lyles. Josh Jackson will probably get minutes though somehow even though I'd rather he didn't.
 

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While the Lions continue to Lion, I'm still a Stafford fan. Happy to see him having success so far. And beating Brady today was a chef's kiss. Go Rams this year.

Love Stafford, he is free to start winning in two years when we don't have their draft picks. I hope they lose their next 31 games. We probably need Donald or Ramsey to go down.
 

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Pistons media day today.

@Ed Ned and Leddy - What rotation (starters and reserves) do you want to see on opening night?

I want to start Cade, Saddiq, Jerami and Isaiah for sure. I'm not big on starting Killian right away at the beginning. I kind of want someone who is ready to attack the paint and/or can shoot from the outside. So I'm leaning towards Diallo or Frank Jackson.

And then off the bench I'm thinking Cory Joseph, Killian, Diallo/Frank Jackson, Olynyk and then I guess Lyles. Josh Jackson will probably get minutes though somehow even though I'd rather he didn't.

I think you're pretty on the money there. The one thing I will say is that I expect us to see a lot of Jeff Blashill-style rotation blending for this Pistons this year. The goal for this year is really just to see the kids improve and get comfortable playing with each other, so I expect plenty of mixing and matching.

For me the "easy" part is Grant and Bey, I think those two start almost every game they're healthy. Stewart will get big minutes, but I could see where Olynyk starts at times for the spacing he could provide. I agree with you on the 2 spot, I think that Cade and Killian have the potential to play together long-term but I'm not sure I'd start them together this fall. Diallo gives you the cutting and athleticism where Frank Jackson's shooting provides a bit more spacing.

If I were simply trying to give Cade as much spacing as possible to help him adjust as a primary ball-handler, I might run something like Cade-Frank-Bey-Grant-Olynyk. That gives him four players who can shoot. I could also see Cade-Diallo-Bey-Grant-Stewart for something a bit more balanced.
 
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Early impression is that the Wolverines may have a Cade McNamara problem. He looks completely ineffective throwing the ball
 

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Looked pretty good to me

Well when you watch through maize and blue glasses, everything looks good, I’m sure.

I like to think I’m pretty objective, and one pass isn’t going to change my opinion. He’s routinely lacked precision. Throws behind crossing routes, passes making it hard for receivers to turn up field, opting for dump offs in longer yardage situations.

He can improve yet, but you can tell that he hasn’t been asked to throw much to this point. The execution isn’t there so far.
 

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Well when you watch through maize and blue glasses, everything looks good, I’m sure.

I like to think I’m pretty objective, and one pass isn’t going to change my opinion. He’s routinely lacked precision. Throws behind crossing routes, passes making it hard for receivers to turn up field, opting for dump offs in longer yardage situations.

He can improve yet, but you can tell that he hasn’t been asked to throw much to this point. The execution isn’t there so far.

I wouldn’t say he has been completely ineffective, especially for his first true road start. McNamara has moved the chains on a couple throws, and that flea flicker was a perfect pass.

Having said that there is definitely room for improvement, especially on the crossing routes like you said. Michigan has to run the ball better in the 2nd half, the offensive line is not getting a push off the line of scrimmage. Go Blue!
 

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I wouldn’t say he has been completely ineffective, especially for his first true road start. McNamara has moved the chains on a couple throws, and that flea flicker was a perfect pass.

Having said that there is definitely room for improvement, especially on the crossing routes like you said. Michigan has to run the ball better in the 2nd half, the offensive line is not getting a push off the line of scrimmage. Go Blue!

That was also against one of the best defenses in the country, on the road, in a stadium they havent won at in 20 years. I think McNamara missed some throws and he isnt amazing (JJ might be though...), but I also think some people watch college and expect to see NFL level passing on every team too.

Either way, thats a pretty big statement win by Michigan against a solid team. The talk on 97.1 all week was how Michigan will probably lose because Wisco is good, I'll be interested to hear people talk about how Wisconsin just isnt that good now lol
 
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That was also against one of the best defenses in the country, on the road, in a stadium they havent won at in 20 years. I think McNamara missed some throws and he isnt amazing (JJ might be though...), but I also think some people watch college and expect to see NFL level passing on every team too.

Either way, thats a pretty big statement win by Michigan against a solid team. The talk on 97.1 all week was how Michigan will probably lose because Wisco is good, I'll be interested to hear people talk about how Wisconsin just isnt that good now lol

100% agree that was a statement win, one that Harbaugh needed badly. Can’t say enough about the defense and the job Macdonald has done, really exciting. Hutchinson’s first step is insane, when #97 is on the field my eyes are glued. There are multiple times a game where he is so fast off the ball that he is in the backfield before the tackle can even touch him. Hill had a monster second half too with that sack that knocked Mertz out, then a interception to seal it.

Im only 150 miles from Lincoln, going to next weekends game. Having been out of the country the last two years I am pumped to see the Wolverines in person. Go Blue!
 
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Early impression is that the Wolverines may have a Cade McNamara problem. He looks completely ineffective throwing the ball

You're going to get some pushback because we just beat Wisco away and went 5-0, but I generally agree.

I think "problem" is harsh, but I agree that McNamara limits the offense's ceiling. The Bell injury has certainly depleted his weapons, but he still doesn't seem to have either the consistency or the exceptional talent to lead a truly great college offense imo.

I've certainly seen worse Michigan quarterbacks, but McNamara doesn't inspire a ton of confidence.
 

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That was also against one of the best defenses in the country, on the road, in a stadium they havent won at in 20 years. I think McNamara missed some throws and he isnt amazing (JJ might be though...), but I also think some people watch college and expect to see NFL level passing on every team too.

Either way, thats a pretty big statement win by Michigan against a solid team. The talk on 97.1 all week was how Michigan will probably lose because Wisco is good, I'll be interested to hear people talk about how Wisconsin just isnt that good now lol

Badger fan stepping in to say Wisco is hot garbage. I'll gladly share my texts with my brother from 2 weeks ago saying as much. That defense that is one of the "best" got shredded by a pedestrian Notre Lame team.

I take nothing away from UM's game today, they executed as they should have against the level of competition they faced. Sorry, but that was far from a statement win. When you face a team that has routinely curb-stomped you and beat them when they've dipped to lower MAC level, it is not that impressive.
 

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Badger fan stepping in to say Wisco is hot garbage. I'll gladly share my texts with my brother from 2 weeks ago saying as much. That defense that is one of the "best" got shredded by a pedestrian Notre Lame team.

I take nothing away from UM's game today, they executed as they should have against the level of competition they faced. Sorry, but that was far from a statement win. When you face a team that has routinely curb-stomped you and beat them when they've dipped to lower MAC level, it is not that impressive.

Notre dame didn’t shred them but yeah Wisco isn’t a good team this year.

Wisco outgained ND.
 

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Notre dame didn’t shred them but yeah Wisco isn’t a good team this year.

Wisco outgained ND.

Even without the two pick sixes, ND still hung 17 points on them in 4th quarter. You can can subscribe to your version of shredding, but that exposed them as paper Badgers.
 

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Even without the two pick sixes, ND still hung 17 points on them in 4th quarter. You can can subscribe to your version of shredding, but that exposed them as paper Badgers.

They also got a kick return they only got 10 points on the defense in the 4th. And they really only scored because the offense was pure garbage and gave them good FP. Wisconsin didn’t allow 250 yards. They’re a good defensive team but the offense is really really bad.
 

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They also got a kick return they only got 10 points on the defense in the 4th. And they really only scored because the offense was pure garbage and gave them good FP. Wisconsin didn’t allow 250 yards. They’re a good defensive team but the offense is really really bad.

Rutgers held UM to nearly 100 yards less than the Badgers did. And, I've watched all the Badgers games and haven't been amazed. I'll have to rely on your word Bucky has a good defense.
 
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Rutgers held UM to nearly 100 yards less than the Badgers did. And, I've watched all the Badgers games and haven't been amazed. I'll have to rely on your word Bucky has a good defense.

Rutgers also had the ball for 7 more minutes then Wisconsin’s offense.

And the play calling in the 2nd half was atrocious for Michigan
 

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Badger fan stepping in to say Wisco is hot garbage. I'll gladly share my texts with my brother from 2 weeks ago saying as much. That defense that is one of the "best" got shredded by a pedestrian Notre Lame team.

I take nothing away from UM's game today, they executed as they should have against the level of competition they faced. Sorry, but that was far from a statement win. When you face a team that has routinely curb-stomped you and beat them when they've dipped to lower MAC level, it is not that impressive.

Wow, what is your definition of a statement win, taking home the national title? Michigan was 2-4 last year, have not won in Madison since 2001, and were the underdog. I repeat, your “hot garbage” Wisconsin team was favored. It was a statement win.
 

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Wow, what is your definition of a statement win, taking home the national title? Michigan was 2-4 last year, have not won in Madison since 2001, and were the underdog. I repeat, your “hot garbage” Wisconsin team was favored. It was a statement win.
A statement win is beating a team that most people think you don't have a chance of beating.

Like Penn State this season. Or the Buckeyes every year.

Was it a good win on the road? Yes. But it's not a, "Michigan is on the scene - deal with it" type of win.
 
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