Dreger: McDavid may cost 14 million

hamzarocks

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I Have a feeling he signs for 10.6 -11 Million makes him highest paid in league with probably front loaded 1st few years signing bonuses.

Do you know how much Mcdavid makes of of endorsement. Like is that public info or something that isn't put out there or only a estimate is out. If he makes 3-5 million in endorsements than a 9.7-10.5 salary is pretty fair with him being compensated greatly and the oilers having room to get the supporting pieces they need to their core.
 

VainGretzky

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Remember his draft day face? :sarcasm:

I think this changed his mood from that night

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6ix

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This makes sense. Sign for the absolute max for 4 years taking him to free agency. This allows him to sign with the leafs at a discount since he squeezed the max out of the oil.







Just kidding Oil :) I'm sure he will sign for 8 years.
 

danielpalfredsson

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If Mcdavid signs a 12.5M for 5 years deal and then follows it up 5 years later with another long term deal at 12.5M, sure.

You said Crosby took a discount though, he didn't really. He took very close to max on his post ELC deal.

McDavid can't do the same thing Crosby did on his second deal by going long term. Crosby's second deal looked like this at the time as a representation of the cap once you take away all the years past year 8 (20%/20%/20%/18.17%/18.17%/16.7%/15%/16%).

So if McDavid were to sign the exact same deals as Crosby, he'd get 12.975M on a 5 year term right now, and then assuming there are no further changes to the CBA, if the cap went up on average even 2M per season he'd get (17/17/17/15.44/15.44/14.2/12.75/13.6) which would be a (edit: oops) 15.3M AAV and on an 85M cap would be a similar contract to what Crosby got on a 60M cap when you take out the benefit of Crosby being able to sign a longer contract that artificially lowers the cap hit in his prime by coupling it with his out of prime years.

Crosby didn't take a discount on his first contract, it was the same as McDavid taking about 13M now. Then Crosby no more took a big discount than a guy like Hossa or Kovalchuk did. He just had an easier time than stars do now because he could have his cake and eat it too. Get paid fair value while not over burdening his team with a huge cap hit due to their not being an 8 year limit on contracts at the time.
 
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Sounds about right. Those hoping for a hometown discount will be disappointed, as usual. He's worth every penny though.
 

deckercky

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When Crosby signed his first extension, it was 5 years at the equivalent of $13M on the current cap for a 5 year contract (ie, almost all RFA years).

Ovechkin's first extension was the equivalent of marginally more than $14M cap hit currently takes, but that was a 13 year contract.

If McDavid goes 8 years, $13-14M is pretty reasonable.
 

Luigi Lemieux

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You said Crosby took a discount though, he didn't really. He took very close to max on his post ELC deal.

McDavid can't do the same thing Crosby did on his second deal by going long term. Crosby's second deal looked like this at the time as a representation of the cap once you take away all the years past year 8 (20%/20%/20%/18.17%/18.17%/16.7%/15%/16%).

So if McDavid were to sign the exact same deals as Crosby, he'd get 12.975M on a 5 year term right now, and then assuming there are no further changes to the CBA, if the cap went up on average even 2M per season he'd get (17/17/17/15.44/15.44/14.2/12.75/13.6) which would be a (edit: oops) 15.3M AAV and on an 85M cap would be a similar contract to what Crosby got on a 60M cap when you take out the benefit of Crosby being able to sign a longer contract that artificially lowers the cap hit in his prime by coupling it with his out of prime years.

Crosby didn't take a discount on his first contract, it was the same as McDavid taking about 13M now. Then Crosby no more took a big discount than a guy like Hossa or Kovalchuk did. He just had an easier time than stars do now because he could have his cake and eat it too. Get paid fair value while not over burdening his team with a huge cap hit due to their not being an 8 year limit on contracts at the time.
Cap may have been lower, but Crosby would not have signed anything crazy. He's mentioned that he wanted to make sure the pens could sign other talent. From the day he signed:

"I think the balance here was to try to find a contract in his third contract that could pay Sidney Crosby accordingly, but as Sid always says to me and said again, 'OK that is fine, but how can I help the team?' " Shero said. "He came back after he talked to Pat and said this AAV is really what I want to help the team. He's never been reluctant to help the team and we certainly appreciate that. It says a lot about Crosby."

https://www.nhl.com/news/crosby-penguins-agree-on-12-year-extension/c-636359

And that's just Crosby, Malkin took 9.5 when he could've asked for whatever he wanted in 2013, and that was under the new cba.
 

The CyNick

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He gets to set the market for the next crop of top players. Everything just gets adjusted. If top guys are going to make $14M, it just means that middle guys will make $3M instead of $5M. And more guys will fall into a minimum salary level.

But it won't really impact the quality of the teams. Possibly a team like the Leafs might be hurt if MNM are all paid top dollar. Would be hard to keep 3 guys at that level.
 

dredeye

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Sign a contract like that in the cap era and you pretty much guarantee yourself the opportunity to never get your name on the cup
 

PuckSeparator

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Haha, he would be the biggest jerk in NHL history if he demands that and nothing else. Would also ensure his club is royally screwed for the duration of the contract, on top of massively overrating deals that young studs like Matthews, Laine, etc. will receive. This would actually turn the entire NHL into a circus.:laugh::popcorn:

But yeah, he probably takes somewhere between 10-11 million so as to not be "that guy". If he makes over 12 million, he instantly becomes overpaid seeing as he's not even the clear cut best player in the NHL right now and had a sub-par showing in his first playoffs.
 

La Bamba

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McDavid cares about team success. He has stated it over and over and over again. He already makes a **** load of money via endorsements already. Winning is important to him so I do expect him to take a pay cut in order to help that.

Money will never be an issue for him. When he retires, he'll easily land some hockey management/ambassador role to earn him more millions. Enjoying career success while in the prime years of his life should be his main focus
 

Avs71

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I like Matthews and i'm a Leafs fan but he scored 69 points in his rookie season. Mcdavid just scored 100 points in his 2nd year. In what world does he get close to Mcdavid money? His contract will be similar to what Eichel gets. Mcdavid gets a blank cheque whatever he wants.
Glad to see a Leafs fan post this.
 

Hogan86

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That's what he asks for. They come to a deal at 11.5-12 tops. Which is what's he's worth on a long term deal as the cap rises.
 

powerstuck

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Already the best player in the NHL and will be the best player for probably the next decade. Could do his team a favor but that's a lot of money he'd be throwing away.

Well that much money probably means he would be ''the best player to never have won the cup'' because it's gonna be hard making a team competitive when you spend 18-19% of the salary mass on one guy.
 

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