McDavid heating up, what are odds on 150 points this season?

[Akrapovince]

So many haters, McDavid could help the Oilers win a cup and people would say he needs to win two to prove its not a fluke.

 

[Cup or Bust]

Amazing season by McDavid.

 

[KCC]

Great call on McDavid's OT goal to hit 60 by TNT.

 

[Deen]

That was tasty

 

[ozzie]

So many haters, McDavid could help the Oilers win a cup and people would say he needs to win two to prove its not a fluke.

I used to think that way, but I'll be honest. If this year is a peak and he reverts to much lower numbers, then maybe. If he puts up a few seasons similar to this one, it changes the narrative. I find myself now saying, if he could at least make it to the finals, win or lose. Then it's can he make it to several conference finals and play well in the playoffs. He's chipping away at that narrative, at least for me. I can't imagine I'm alone in this thinking.

If he retired as an Oiler with 0 cups, there would be a lot to admire with is loyalty or winning 1 cup with this franchise would be enough. Add in Olympic gold and some other successes? can change everything.

 

[ManByng]

Hopefully with a new team he has a measure of success. He deserved much better than starting his career with Edmonton.

This is why I hope the Habs never win another cup in my lifetime.

 

[dwonger]

As a player he's already in the running for best of all time and ahead of everyone not named Gretzky and Lemieux,. As a sportsman (which includes championships) he's obviously behind.


Hopefully with a new team he has a measure of success. He deserved much better than starting his career with Edmonton.

Habs are one team that's run even worse than Edmonton has been. Future looks bad too. Nick Suzuki is meh typical 60 point player, horrible defensively paid near 8 million yikes!

 

[KCC]

Every game that passes you think there's no way he can keep up the goal scoring pace and yet in the last 15 games he's went from 43 goals to 60 goals. Good God. lol. Has to run the table with at least one goal a game for the remainder but he continues to chug along. Also needs to run the table and continue at least 2 points a game to hit 156 and pass Yzerman, and once again he continues to chug along. If he can go on a run and get a few bigger games say a few 3 or 4 point games he'll have some more breathing room.

 

[JimmyApples]

Freak of nature. The most impressive goal scoring season we’ve seen in a long time.

 

[koyvoo]

This is why I hope the Habs never win another cup in my lifetime.

And what would you hope for if it was said by a jets fan. Or Sabres, or stars, or coyotes fan. Or any fan.

Because it isn’t exactly wrong, as much as it hurts your feelings.

And I live the guy, but I was not be surprised if in a few months the narrative isn’t “how could the oilers take the goaltending they chose into the playoffs with a prime McDavid”.

So, do you disagree that the oilers have shit the bed with the opportunity that a true generational player is supposed to give you? Or is that no one should mention it, because it makes you angry?

 

[ReHabs]

This is why I hope the Habs never win another cup in my lifetime.

Habs are one team that's run even worse than Edmonton has been. Future looks bad too. Nick Suzuki is meh typical 60 point player, horrible defensively paid near 8 million yikes!

The Habs have been very poorly run this is true, but without McDavid or Draisatl or any sort of notable offensive talent on the team they've won more playoff rounds than Edmonton since the McDavid draft. It's just simply a tragic shame for hockey in general and Connor McDavid in particular that he had to be drafted by the Oilers. The Habs were circling the drain with an aging core that consisted only of an injury-prone Carey Price and an over-the-hill Shea Weber and somehow won more playoff rounds than Edmonton with McDavid and Draisaitl-- tragic shame.

Surely you can sympathize with a neutral fan of McDavid like me, I just want him on a good team so the hockey world can profit from his GOAT-level talent.

 

[ReHabs]

And what would you hope for if it was said by a jets fan. Or Sabres, or stars, or coyotes fan. Or any fan.

Because it isn’t exactly wrong, as much as it hurts your feelings.

And I live the guy, but I was not be surprised if in a few months the narrative isn’t “how could the oilers take the goaltending they chose into the playoffs with a prime McDavid”.

So, do you disagree that the oilers have shit the bed with the opportunity that a true generational player is supposed to give you? Or is that no one should mention it, because it makes you angry?

Edmonton supporters have every right to bristle at the notion that McDavid should leave their team but it doesn't change the fact that the Oilers organization has not served hockey well. McDavid should be the Leo Messi of hockey but instead his reputation is under-inflated because of the team he's stuck on. On one hand it serves him right for signing that contract with the Oilers, but on the other than it's just a shame overall.

 

[Bank Shot]

So, do you disagree that the oilers have shit the bed with the opportunity that a true generational player is supposed to give you? Or is that no one should mention it, because it makes you angry?

Well the Oilers have at least 3 seasons left of McDavid so I guess we will see.

People love to jump the gun on narratives. A few years ago it was "McDavid can't elevate in the playoffs". Anyone who said that looks like a complete doorknob now.

Edmonton supporters have every right to bristle at the notion that McDavid should leave their team but it doesn't change the fact that the Oilers organization has not served hockey well. McDavid should be the Leo Messi of hockey but instead his reputation is under-inflated because of the team he's stuck on. On one hand it serves him right for signing that contract with the Oilers, but on the other than it's just a shame overall.

Maybe if you whine about it enough you can reverse the timeline?

 

[ReHabs]

Well the Oilers have at least 3 seasons left of McDavid so I guess we will see.

People love to jump the gun on narratives. A few years ago it was "McDavid can't elevate in the playoffs". Anyone who said that looks like a complete doorknob now.

Only a doorknob would criticise McDavid's playoff performance in the context of his career with the Oilers. It's the Oilers that failed to elevate (at all times, not just the playoffs). Three more years of McDavid with the Oilers, I think it's a steep ask to expect a trade but we can only hope he doesn't get injured until he hits UFA. Very curious to see how his career shapes up -- like I said, he should be the Leo Messi of hockey but he's barely an afterthought and it has to do with the problems of the Oilers not him.

Maybe if you whine about it enough you can reverse the timeline?

Do you think this is whining? Have you not been an Oiler fan for the past decade+, I think you should know what whining looks and sounds like.

 

[koyvoo]

Well the Oilers have at least 3 seasons left of McDavid so I guess we will see.

People love to jump the gun on narratives. A few years ago it was "McDavid can't elevate in the playoffs". Anyone who said that looks like a complete doorknob now.

I would say that if people were saying that McDavid couldn’t elevate in the playoffs a few years, that opinion would likely be coming from a place of emotional hate, rather than logic.

The same way that if an oiler fan discounts people’s opinions that the oilers have wasted his years up to this point is coming from an emotional bond to the player and team, rather than a logical one.

I think if they lose in the playoffs this season, it’s an absolutely legit argument to suggest taking this level of goaltending into the postseason with a prime McDavid would be another example of poorly building the supporting cast a generational player needs to win.

Sure, there’s a few years left, as you mention. And things could change. But I don’t think getting mad because someone states that the oilers have shit the bed with the opportunity a McDavid level player should give them is simply coming from the fact they are your team and he is your player. Like I said, and emotional bond trumping a logical thought.

 

[McNuge]

Only a doorknob would criticise McDavid's playoff performance in the context of his career with the Oilers. It's the Oilers that failed to elevate (at all times, not just the playoffs). Three more years of McDavid with the Oilers, I think it's a steep ask to expect a trade but we can only hope he doesn't get injured until he hits UFA. Very curious to see how his career shapes up -- like I said, he should be the Leo Messi of hockey but he's barely an afterthought and it has to do with the problems of the Oilers not him.


Do you think this is whining? Have you not been an Oiler fan for the past decade+, I think you should know what whining looks and sounds like.

This the same Habs team that had one of the best Canadian goalies ever and couldn't build anything infront of him? While being one of the premiere destinations in hockey?

Stop being a clown.

 

[Bank Shot]

Only a doorknob would criticise McDavid's playoff performance in the context of his career with the Oilers. It's the Oilers that failed to elevate (at all times, not just the playoffs). Three more years of McDavid with the Oilers, I think it's a steep ask to expect a trade but we can only hope he doesn't get injured until he hits UFA. Very curious to see how his career shapes up -- like I said, he should be the Leo Messi of hockey but he's barely an afterthought and it has to do with the problems of the Oilers not him.


Do you think this is whining? Have you not been an Oiler fan for the past decade+, I think you should know what whining looks and sounds like.

You act like this is the first occurrence of something similar happing in hockey. Bourque didn't win for forever. A truly generational goalie in Hasek didn't win until later in his career. It took the Pens 7 years to win with Mario, and they airdropped Larry Murphy and Ron Francis onto the team. That's not possible with the cap anymore. Took forever for the Caps and Ovie to get over the hump.

Yeah it would make for a nice bedtime story if the Oilers and McDavid won the cup 3 years ago, but things don't always fall together perfectly. McDavid was always going to a poorly managed team because he was the first overall pick so its not like results would be guaranteed to be dramatically different elsewhere.

 

[TopCheese]

The scary thing about Mcdavid is that he always elevates when it matters most. At the end of the year and in the playoffs he enters god mode. Lost in the backround of Mcdavids season, Draisaitl and RNH are having career seasons as well. Drai will hit 120 pts and RNH should hit 100. Can't ever remember seeing 3 guys with 100 pts on the same team

 

[ReHabs]

This the same Habs team that had one of the best Canadian goalies ever and couldn't build anything infront of him? While being one of the premiere destinations in hockey?

Stop being a clown.

The Habs were poorly run, that's for sure. Marc Bergevin was a terrible GM and squandered Carey Price's prime. Price isn't the GOAT, he's not remotely close to being the GOAT. McDavid is. The Oilers have done McDavid dirty -- I'm not sure why you're upset. Do you really think you should defend the Oilers organization's honour right now -- in this context?

You act like this is the first occurrence of something similar happing in hockey. Bourque didn't win for forever. A truly generational goalie in Hasek didn't win until later in his career. It took the Pens 7 years to win with Mario, and they airdropped Larry Murphy and Ron Francis onto the team. That's not possible with the cap anymore. Took forever for the Caps and Ovie to get over the hump.

Yeah it would make for a nice bedtime story if the Oilers and McDavid won the cup 3 years ago, but things don't always fall together perfectly. McDavid was always going to a poorly managed team because he was the first overall pick so its not like results would be guaranteed to be dramatically different elsewhere.

This is slightly more reasonable than the other comment above, so I'll give you kudos.

Surely you can acknowledge that the Oilers have underserved McDavid (and by extension, hockey in general). No?

 

[BallardEra]

People would have laughed before this season started if someone said McDavid would score 60 goals faster than Matthews did last season.

He is now one goal away from 300 for his career.

 

[BallardEra]

 

[mr figgles]

The scary thing about Mcdavid is that he always elevates when it matters most. At the end of the year and in the playoffs he enters god mode. Lost in the backround of Mcdavids season, Draisaitl and RNH are having career seasons as well. Drai will hit 120 pts and RNH should hit 100. Can't ever remember seeing 3 guys with 100 pts on the same team

Has to be the Pens in 95-96 with Lemieux, Jagr, and Francis. I can’t imagine anyone did it after that when the puck died.

 

[Mr Buckles]

Has to be the Pens in 95-96 with Lemieux, Jagr, and Francis. I can’t imagine anyone did it after that when the puck died.

And they finished 1,2 and 4 in scoring!

 

[EchoesoftheEighties]

Ovechkin is probably the greatest goal scorer ever and it took him 13 seasons to win.

Legendary captain and leader Steve Yzerman was considered a choker and he didn't win until his 13th season.

Wayne Gretzky himself couldn't win another cup after leaving those legendary Oilers teams.

Some of these LOL MCDAVID HASN'T WON YET takes are absolutely ludicrous. You're watching one of the greatest ever do his thing and put up a historical season that you might not see again for another 30 years. Winning will come.

 

[MoistDadBod]

Well there goes that one bragging right Leafs fans had of Matthews > McDavid.

We now have a new best goal scorer in the world

Yeah but you're forgetting about blocked shots in Tuesday night home games with 8:30PM starts when the moon is full! Matthews crushes McDavid there!