There's actual defence and coaching in the 2020s though, not so much in the 1980s. Not to mention the 5 foot 9 goalies that leave half the net empty.
McDavid heating up, what are odds on 150 points this season?
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There's actual defence and coaching in the 2020s though, not so much in the 1980s. Not to mention the 5 foot 9 goalies that leave half the net empty.
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if he stays healthy 140 is almost a certainty with 150 looking like its absolutely possible.
If he keeps up his scoring rate from last year the rest of the way out and plays all 82 he is pacing for over 140, if he can keep this pace up its 159
If he keeps up his scoring rate from last year the rest of the way out and plays all 82 he is pacing for over 140, if he can keep this pace up its 159
Most likely.
Its so effective too, he doesnt even open up to shoot, he just slides it there and theres nothing you can do about it.
Its hockey canada, do they care about that?
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Screw 150 I want to see him at 164 aka 2 points per game. Now that would be something we haven't seen in a long time.
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If anyone is actually being serious about 150+ points not being ridiculous in 2023 just because Yzerman did it in the late 80s, then give your head a shake.
80s hockey while entertaining and fun if we're being honest is pure pond hockey.
There's no defensive strategy whatsoever, some of the D can't even skate properly backwards, lol. Just pure fire wagon hockey with far worse goaltending than today.
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What Lames can even come close to that ? I'm sorry that franchise is pathetic , don't ever speak McDavid's name ever again. You're not worthy and its insulting when you even mention him. You're far too stupid to be speaking about him... its embarrassing
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it is also a different league than what we've been used to through Crosby and Ovis prime. What I associate with the 80's is defensemen scoring 100. And 31 year old Josi got 96 points last year, 32 year old Karlsson is on pace for 100+. PPG players don't have to be elite anymore, etc. Scoring is near all time highs again.
So the best hockey player in the world setting marks not set since the 80's seems natural. Nothing to take away from McDavid though, he is the best hockey player in the universe.
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The goaltending and defensive structures are still far better than they were in the 80s, though. If we start seeing the other top guys scoring 130+ in a single season (Kucherov, MacKinnon, Matthews, Drai), then we'll know we're reaching a point of no return for high scoring offense.
Mcdavid had his 8th career 5 point game yesterday. Gretzky at the same point of his career as Mcdavid had 71 5 point games. Okay, scoring was higher back in the day and everyone was putting 5 point games on the regular. The guy behind Gretzky is Mario with just 29. 3rd place is just 11 5 point games.
Mcdavid is great, you dont need to disrespect the handful of players greater than Mcdavid because of some era vs era garbage talking points. Each era had its advantages and disadvantages.
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And 80s was obviously the easiest score of all time to score in.
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You're assuming I'm disrespecting Gretz and Mario. I'm not. I know how dominant Gretzky was compared to his peers (and then Mario) - it's why he put up so many more points than everyone else who were playing under the same conditions. But nobody has put up 150 in 27 years, so it's absolutely going to be a crazy feat to witness if 97 can accomplish it.
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Arguably the best offensive stretch of hockey since the 80s was Mario in 2000-01. 35 goals, 76 points in 43 games, heart of the DPE, coming back from 4 years away. Yes, he had Jagr and peak Kovalev, but it's still mind-boggling. And Mario played over 24 minutes a game, at 35 years old.
Hockey Reference has their "adjusted points" stat that does a series of calculations to attempt to level things between eras.
Adjusted Statistics | Hockey-Reference.com
Explaination of hockey stats adjusted for the era the games were played in.
www.hockey-reference.com
NHL & WHA Single Season Leaders and Records for Adjusted Points | Hockey-Reference.com
1. Howie Morenz (190), 2. Wayne Gretzky (170), 3. Cooney Weiland (168), 4. Wayne Gretzky (166), 5. Mario Lemieux (165), 6. Wayne Gretzky (163), 7. Frank Boucher (160), 8. Wayne Gretzky (159), 9. Connor McDavid (158), 10. Wayne Gretzky (156)
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I don't think his current season hasn't been updated after tonight's game.
How cool it would be to see like a 60+90 season from McDavid? Hopefully he plays all 82 games this season, I want to see what he is able to do, it might be something only two greatest offensive players of all time (Gretzky and Mario) have done before him.
Yep
..and in a era with less goals than today.
Young people loves to bring up the 80s with bad goaltendings.and bla bla to put down Mario Lemieux...
But think about that..
A 35 years.old Lemieux...after 4 years retirement....in the.worse era ever for goals.....scored 35 goals in 43 games and 76 points.
An absolute prime Mcdavid at 25 years.old..injury free...has 32 goals in 37 games so far..
You have right there all the.elements.to see that Mario Lemieux was a real phenom.
Really nothing against 97...but 66 was the beast!!
I keep thinking this every year, than the next year happens and he steps it up. Where does it end with this guy? Could he possibly be better again next year?
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5 points without Draisaitl and carrying a plug in JP. lol
Yup. Everyone knows Mario was nuts. And during the dead puck era he was special. if he could have stayed healthy he smashes Gretzky's goal scoring record (well over 1000) and a bunch of other records also. But alas numbers are what matters at the end of the day and he just couldn't stay healthy enough. It's great to see what Mcdavid is doing though. I would love to see him break 155 points to be the only player outside of Gretzky and said Lemieux to score more in a season.
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This isn’t a “diss” to Mario - the guy was obviously insane and what he did post cancer was mythical but I just wanted to point out that 99’s back troubles in the 90’s are well documented and the whole “what if” can go both ways.
Also, if the oilers didn’t have a corrupt owner the Oilers dynasty probably stays together into the mid 90’s and who knows how 99’s production would have differed.
Either way, absolutely blessed to have watched both live.
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Them losing in the final to the Matthews led Arizona would be an amazing story.
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Why do some fans always think we are "dissing" Lemieux when we talk about McDavid having one of the best seasons since him?
No one hates on Mario here, he gets a ton of respect.
So much insecurity.
No one hates on Mario here, he gets a ton of respect.
So much insecurity.
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Hey look everyone, Jordan Belfart's Albertan cousin is in the house!!!
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Grate n Colorful Oz
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And most skaters were slow compared to today's standards.
80's hockey was like watching today's hockey in constant slow-mo
