Speculation: Mcdavid and Eichel Contracts

[OvermanKingGainer]

That's over 12 million. Have fun crippling the rest of your team haha no player should ever get paid that much

Why should a team that wins a lottery to get the so-called best player in a decade, then get a home town discount from that player? Said player should be paid market value not "how can we cheese the system" value.

 

[Not Sure]

Top 5 puts him at $9.5, which is a lot different than $12+. I doubt highest paid. All the highest paid signed UFA deals. I just don't see an RFA getting that spot.

If McDavid doesn't play a single game next year he is worth more than $9.5. He will be bringing in the fans, he is the face of the new oilers, his point total while important doesn't matter. Unless he completely turns into a shell he will be the highest paid RFA ever, and has a very good chance to be the highest paid player in the league.

 

[Connor]

If McDavid doesn't play a single game next year he is worth more than $9.5. He will be bringing in the fans, he is the face of the new oilers, his point total while important doesn't matter. Unless he completely turns into a shell he will be the highest paid RFA ever, and has a very good chance to be the highest paid player in the league.

That logic is off.

If Wayne Gretzky came out of retirement and signed with the Leafs, his jersey would EASILY the most sold jersey. People would be going crazy for tickets to see him. Should Gretzky become the highest paid player in the league if he came out of retirement?

 

[JarvisFunk]

Lol some people are such babies. Mcdavid will be an oiler forever, enjoy it *****es

 

[Halla]

Lol some people are such babies. Mcdavid will be an oiler forever, enjoy it *****es

unlikely. how many players stay with one team? very few

 

[Jagemon]

Lol some people are such babies. Mcdavid will be an oiler forever, enjoy it *****es

Curious as to why do you think so? Same goes for Eichel. As much as I want him to be a Sabre for as long as possible, it is a pipe dream to me that he would play for the Sabres til retirement.

 

[McBaevid]

Lol some people are such babies. Mcdavid will be an oiler forever, enjoy it *****es

even as a Oilers fan, the chances of McDavid being an Oiler for life is slim to none.

 

[Not Sure]

That logic is off.

If Wayne Gretzky came out of retirement and signed with the Leafs, his jersey would EASILY the most sold jersey. People would be going crazy for tickets to see him. Should Gretzky become the highest paid player in the league if he came out of retirement?

But Gretzky coming out of retirement isn't one of the best players in the league with very real potential to be THE best player in the league. Crosby missed a ton of time from his concussions, but he was the best player on the team and was worth just paying him even if he plays 30-50 games a year. The real value isn't in what you will pay but what others are willing to pay. Some team will be willing to offer him a max contract if he ever comes close to RFA/UFA status, so you don't risk it. You pay him $11 million for 8 years before someone else offers him $14/15 million per on a 7 year deal, or even worse a 4 year deal allowing him to hit UFA as soon as possible.

 

[varano]

Mcdavid should be a max contract player.....

I'm sure another team will offer sheet him for an insane amount of cash.

 

[Connor]

But Gretzky coming out of retirement isn't one of the best players in the league with very real potential to be THE best player in the league. Crosby missed a ton of time from his concussions, but he was the best player on the team and was worth just paying him even if he plays 30-50 games a year. The real value isn't in what you will pay but what others are willing to pay. Some team will be willing to offer him a max contract if he ever comes close to RFA/UFA status, so you don't risk it. You pay him $11 million for 8 years before someone else offers him $14/15 million per on a 7 year deal, or even worse a 4 year deal allowing him to hit UFA as soon as possible.

That makes more sense.

In you first statement you were stating his value as a cap hit in comparison to the dollars he'll bring in. Most teams don't do that. Most teams pay players according to how much impact they will have in making the team better, which you stated in the above post.

 

[ijuka]

Right now, comparing Crosby to McDavid isn't the best course of action. While I think that Sidney Crosby was in a vacuum a more talented prospect than McDavid, he never hit his full potential, most likely due to all the concussion issues. If McDavid actually hits his potential, I have no doubts that he'll become better than Crosby. Most people might want to compare him to Crosby as a prospect and his trajectory to become the player he is today, but that's just missing the fact that he failed to fully reach his generational potential.

As for McDavid's contract, it seriously should be 10+ even with mostly RFA years, assuming his season goes as expected.

 

[Peanut]

even as a Oilers fan, the chances of McDavid being an Oiler for life is slim to none.

I think he is being sarcastic like his name says is pretty opposite of what happened in the fight. Atleast I think?

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

what if McDavid just has a pretty good season next year?... like a 65-75 point one?... kinda seems like everyone is 100% anticipating a 100 point season

 

[Howboutthempanthers]

Right now, comparing Crosby to McDavid isn't the best course of action. While I think that Sidney Crosby was in a vacuum a more talented prospect than McDavid, he never hit his full potential, most likely due to all the concussion issues. If McDavid actually hits his potential, I have no doubts that he'll become better than Crosby. Most people might want to compare him to Crosby as a prospect and his trajectory to become the player he is today, but that's just missing the fact that he failed to fully reach his generational potential.

As for McDavid's contract, it seriously should be 10+ even with mostly RFA years, assuming his season goes as expected.

Actually, if we're just talking about the tool set they have, I think McDavid was a more talented prospect. I don't know if McDavid will ever reach Crosby's level, but I think he has a little bit more pure talent than Crosby.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

what if McDavid just has a pretty good season next year?... like a 65-75 point one?... kinda seems like everyone is 100% anticipating a 100 point season

75 points as a 19 year old would be more than just pretty good. That'd make him a top 10 point scorer. I think it'd take a lot less than 65-75 for people to lose faith in McDavid. The issue with his contract is that because of the generational label, even with modest point totals during his ELC, there'll be teams willing to offer sheet him and pay him large amounts based on his potential alone.

Will an offer sheet work? No. But, it still raises the cost for Edmonton because McDavid is the rare player that would be worth both the inflated cap hit required for an offer sheet, and giving up 4 first round picks. In all likelihood, neither side will want to go through the BS of an offer sheet, but they'll both know that if Edmonton lowballs McDavid he could just go and sign an offer sheet for the amount he is asking for, get it matched, they end up at the same finishing line but everybody ends up looking bad when they could have just signed the same contract in the first place.

I don't think an Art Ross trophy for McDavid next season is an unfair prediction. Granted, smaller sample sizes should be taken with a grain of salt, but his numbers last season would put him over a full season in the top 3 points wise and he was only getting more productive as the season went on. The last guy to do that at 18? Crosby. Crosby then went on to win the Art Ross at 19. Obviously, you have to ignore raw point totals because the first two seasons out of the lockout saw everybody have hugely inflated numbers due to the change in how the game was called, which is why I am strictly referring to where they finished relative to the rest of the league as a basis for a comparison.

 

[tucker3434]

If McDavid doesn't play a single game next year he is worth more than $9.5. He will be bringing in the fans, he is the face of the new oilers, his point total while important doesn't matter. Unless he completely turns into a shell he will be the highest paid RFA ever, and has a very good chance to be the highest paid player in the league.

What he's worth and what he'll get don't have to be the same. A lot of RFA's take less than they're truly worth.

 

[Draiskull]

have not looked at other pages but pretty sure 9.7M\yr extenstion for #97 has probably been mentioned.

 

[ThatSaid]

I think it depends on how the Oilers perform. If they take steps forward, he might be more likely to take a bit of a discount. Judging by what we've seen so far though, he probably will be the best player in the NHL by the end of his ELC.

If that's the case, I think he takes Toews/Kane money at best for Edmonton. If Edmonton doesn't look like its turning things around, I'd expect league max.

Its pretty much all about what McDavid wants. If he wants max money, he'll get it. Unless he doesn't live up to expectations, which at this point seems unlikely.

 

[Curufinwe]

Crosby's first contract had an AVV that was 17.3% of the cap ceiling of $50.3m when it was signed in July, 2007 after his second season.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/sidney-crosby

Let's say the cap ceiling goes up by $2m to $75m. 17.3% of $75m is $12.975m.

 

[varano]

Are you guys crazy? He's going to get close to a max deal. Katz will write him a blank cheque. Period.

 

[varano]

Crosby's first contract had an AVV that was 17.3% of the cap ceiling of $50.3m when it was signed in July, 2007 after his second season.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/sidney-crosby

Let's say the cap ceiling goes up by $2m to $75m. 17.3% of $75m is $12.975m.

Yup. And nowadays Crosby's deal is a monster steal

 

[Rockmorton]

I would love to see McDavid get offer sheeted for the luls

Don't see him making it to free agency tbh.

 

[Havok89]

Don't see him making it to free agency tbh.

McDavid is the rare exception where he holds all the cards. He can take a team friendly and fair deal from Edmonton or force them to sign a 4 year offer sheet for huge $$$ that takes him straight to UFA.

 

[SaltySkywalker]

Just saw this thread...I think it's hilarious everyone's boners for these players that they have to create a thread about new contracts which are still two years away. Start this thread next year.

 

[StuckOutHere]

Actually, if we're just talking about the tool set they have, I think McDavid was a more talented prospect. I don't know if McDavid will ever reach Crosby's level, but I think he has a little bit more pure talent than Crosby.

The only thing Crosby has on McDavid outright in my opinion is his sinister backhanders (which are themselves becoming something of a lost art). Otherwise, slight lean to McDavid on most counts.