Value of: Max Pacioretty

[Sinner]

Nuge + Yak + 2017 1st for MaxPac + Plekanec?

In a perfect world I like that for both sides, forget Yak though, like my gf he has potential but he's damaged goods

 

[Benstheman]

Draisitl + Nurse for Pacioretty + Plekanec

 

[rhinoshawarma]

please close this thread, he's not going anywhere and these offers are horrible.

And then you keep bringing up habs fans who offer horrible deals

 

[Habsfan2731]

radulov has way too much talent not to be a top 6 player. He dominted the KHL, the best KHL player out there including Panarin (back then). If panarin was that good, theres no reason to believe Radulov wont pan out. I could say what if Gallagher doesnt pan out for the upcoming season.

The talent is there, but it's remaining to be seen if he pans out. You proved my point, he's not proven in the NHL. Yakupov hasn't proven anything in the league offensively outside of his rookie year.

Gallagher's proven in the NHL, we know what we're getting with him which is 20G & 40-50 points. It's not the same circumstance.

 

[LaP]

Pacioretty + Plekanec for RNH + Yakupov + 1st would be mad,

This trade is totally ridiculous. Not necessarily in term of value but in term of what Mtl is looking for right now.

Yes RNH is younger than Plekanec and has more value by a fair margin but right now as i write this he is not much better than Plekanec if he even is.

Pacioretty despite all his flaws his a much much better player than Yakupov. Yakupov might develop in the future who knows but unless something strange happen he will remain not as good as Patch for the next 2 or 3 years.

The first pick holds very little value for Montreal specially since with McDavid healthy (and adding Patch and Plek two good vets who won here) Edmonton will more than likely not finish in the bottom 5. After this trade is made the worst i can see them finish is around 20th.

Montreal is looking to win now. One of the best goalie in the world who is signed for a fair cap hit for 2 more years. One of the best dman in the world who is 31 years old (i don't agree with the trade but Weber remains Weber). A very talented and imo underrated around the league young center in AG who is entering his prime. A perennial 30 goals scorer under a ridiculously good contract for another 3 years. One of the best rat in the league in Gallagher.

Montreal wants to win now. That trade does nothing for us.

 

[LaP]

Gallagher's proven in the NHL, we know what we're getting with him which is 20G & 40-50 points. It's not the same circumstance.

That's the minimum you can expect for Gallagher though. He'll likely bring close to 25 goals and 50 points if he plays top 6.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Doubt that Pacioretty is moved for any thing unless it's an insane overpayment. Paciorretty for Fowler and Montour as was one of the proposals makes zero sense Montreal is looking to add to their top 6 and trading patches makes that worse and he probably leaves Anaheim after a 2 years or so any ways so that deal doesn't make to much sense for either team.

 

[Habsfan2731]

That's the minimum you can expect for Gallagher though. He'll likely bring close to 25 goals and 50 points if he plays top 6.

Exactly that. Pacioretty/Gallagher/Plekanec/Galchenyuk are the only forwards that we know for a fact what we're getting from them. Radulov we have no idea, Yakupov we'd have no idea & RNH at best essentially replaces Plekanec, it's still not a worthwhile gamble at the stage the Canadiens are in.

 

[sandysan]

We need more Pacioretty's, not less. Our best chance to win the cup with the current core is the next 3 seasons, trading away our 35 goal, 65 point, two-way winger makes no sense right now.

two-way what now ? more pacioretty's means we just get to observe what talent without drive means.

We need the points we would lose if he gets shipped, but we need a captain who leads by example as well, not one who consistently folds when the chips are down, what we do not need is more empty net or meaningless goals.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

Ryder+Halak+2nd

 

[CharlesHabsFan]

This trade is totally ridiculous. Not necessarily in term of value but in term of what Mtl is looking for right now.

Yes RNH is younger than Plekanec and has more value by a fair margin but right now as i write this he is not much better than Plekanec if he even is.

Pacioretty despite all his flaws his a much much better player than Yakupov. Yakupov might develop in the future who knows but unless something strange happen he will remain not as good as Patch for the next 2 or 3 years.

The first pick holds very little value for Montreal specially since with McDavid healthy (and adding Patch and Plek two good vets who won here) Edmonton will more than likely not finish in the bottom 5. After this trade is made the worst i can see them finish is around 20th.

Montreal is looking to win now. One of the best goalie in the world who is signed for a fair cap hit for 2 more years. One of the best dman in the world who is 31 years old (i don't agree with the trade but Weber remains Weber). A very talented and imo underrated around the league young center in AG who is entering his prime. A perennial 30 goals scorer under a ridiculously good contract for another 3 years. One of the best rat in the league in Gallagher.

Montreal wants to win now. That trade does nothing for us.

Why are you even quoting me about that when I said the exact same thing you did ?

 

[PhoenyX]

Max Pacioretty. The contract Golden Boy that can do no wrong.

Scores the most Empty Net and Meaningless Goals on the Habs.

The PP dies on his stick when he's on the half-wall.

Time and Space Impact him negatively.

Not Aggressive or Physical.

Habs needs to sell now and sell high while the cat is still in the bag.....Need to call Jim Benning ASAP.

I like Pacs...but unfortunately a lot of this is true. He's also been a no-show in the playoffs thus far in his career.

He really reminds me of Rick Nash - big, fast, defensively responsible, but doesn't use his size and isn't a big game player.

 

[Treb]

I like Pacs...but unfortunately a lot of this is true. He's also been a no-show in the playoffs thus far in his career.

He really reminds me of Rick Nash - big, fast, defensively responsible, but doesn't use his size and isn't a big game player.

Since his 1st PO in 2012-2013, Pacioretty is tied 1st in goals (with Bourque ) and tied 2nd in points with Gallagher (behind PK ) with the Habs. PO goalscoring has been a big problem for the Habs since 1994.

League wise, he's tied 45th with Kopitar (45 games) in goals. He's tied 81st in points with guys like Marchand and Zetterberg (tied 66th in ppg for players with 20 games or more).

He may not be the ultimate PO warrior, but his ''no-showiness'' is overblown by many people.

 

[TheGreat]

Max Pacioretty. The contract Golden Boy that can do no wrong.

Scores the most Empty Net and Meaningless Goals on the Habs.

The PP dies on his stick when he's on the half-wall.

Time and Space Impact him negatively.

Not Aggressive or Physical.

Habs needs to sell now and sell high while the cat is still in the bag.....Need to call Jim Benning ASAP.

Michel Therrien is that you ?

 

[CapSpace]

Don't need Pacioretty now that we have a Ladd and an abundance of LW's to begin with. I'd be interested in Plekanec, but not for a crazy price.

Interesting. What would you offer ?

 

[oconnor9sean]

Habs traded for Weber so they could contend hard for the next 2-3 years (before Price's contract is up), why would we trade a 35+ goal scorer who's on a cost efficient contract? makes no sense

Adding Weber and subtracting Subban with nothing else involved doesnt make you any more of a contender.

 

[smirob]

Ryder+Halak+2nd

This is original, hilarious and frankly very refreshing.

Keep up the valuable contributions you are making on a day-to-day basis.

 

[SLAPSHOT723]

Interesting. What would you offer ?

As I said before, probably Bailey, Mayfield, 2nd. I'd give up a 1st if that was the absolute dealbreaker, but I'd try to push for just the 2nd.

I also wouldn't do this deal if Barzal makes the team, but I like Plekanec and I think we need at least one more top-6 forward, whether it be a RW or a 2C.

 

[jwrocks1]

Ryder+Halak+2nd

so a 30 goal scorer, a starting goalie and a Norris winning Dman. Sure. But we don't need the goalie so it doesn't really fit

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

Would the Habs be interested in a captain swap with the Blue Jackets? Foligno for Patches? If Nick plays with Galchenyuk and gets PP time, he could put up very similar numbers to what he did when he was next to Johansen.

 

[Oleg Petrov]

Would Minnesota be willing to do a 2 for 1 swap.

Something like

Niederriter & Zucker
Coyle & Zucker
Coyle & Niederrieter

for

Pacioretty

 

[SmellOfVictory]

This is original, hilarious and frankly very refreshing.

Keep up the valuable contributions you are making on a day-to-day basis.

One ****post and suddenly I don't contribute. lol. Whatever.

 

[Legend123]

Would Minnesota be willing to do a 2 for 1 swap.

Something like

Niederriter & Zucker
Coyle & Zucker
Coyle & Niederrieter

for

Pacioretty

Habs dont take lesser players esp those ones.

 

[The Great Weal]

Would the Habs be interested in a captain swap with the Blue Jackets? Foligno for Patches? If Nick plays with Galchenyuk and gets PP time, he could put up very similar numbers to what he did when he was next to Johansen.

Pacioretty>>>Foligno

Awful for Montreal

 

[Chez Weber]

In a perfect world I like that for both sides, forget Yak though, like my gf he has potential but he's damaged goods

Brutal