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In a perfect world I like that for both sides, forget Yak though, like my gf he has potential but he's damaged goods
Value of: Max Pacioretty
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In a perfect world I like that for both sides, forget Yak though, like my gf he has potential but he's damaged goods
Benstheman
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rhinoshawarma
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please close this thread, he's not going anywhere and these offers are horrible.
And then you keep bringing up habs fans who offer horrible deals
And then you keep bringing up habs fans who offer horrible deals
Habsfan2731
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The talent is there, but it's remaining to be seen if he pans out. You proved my point, he's not proven in the NHL. Yakupov hasn't proven anything in the league offensively outside of his rookie year.
Gallagher's proven in the NHL, we know what we're getting with him which is 20G & 40-50 points. It's not the same circumstance.
LaP
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This trade is totally ridiculous. Not necessarily in term of value but in term of what Mtl is looking for right now.
Yes RNH is younger than Plekanec and has more value by a fair margin but right now as i write this he is not much better than Plekanec if he even is.
Pacioretty despite all his flaws his a much much better player than Yakupov. Yakupov might develop in the future who knows but unless something strange happen he will remain not as good as Patch for the next 2 or 3 years.
The first pick holds very little value for Montreal specially since with McDavid healthy (and adding Patch and Plek two good vets who won here) Edmonton will more than likely not finish in the bottom 5. After this trade is made the worst i can see them finish is around 20th.
Montreal is looking to win now. One of the best goalie in the world who is signed for a fair cap hit for 2 more years. One of the best dman in the world who is 31 years old (i don't agree with the trade but Weber remains Weber). A very talented and imo underrated around the league young center in AG who is entering his prime. A perennial 30 goals scorer under a ridiculously good contract for another 3 years. One of the best rat in the league in Gallagher.
Montreal wants to win now. That trade does nothing for us.
LaP
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That's the minimum you can expect for Gallagher though. He'll likely bring close to 25 goals and 50 points if he plays top 6.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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Doubt that Pacioretty is moved for any thing unless it's an insane overpayment. Paciorretty for Fowler and Montour as was one of the proposals makes zero sense Montreal is looking to add to their top 6 and trading patches makes that worse and he probably leaves Anaheim after a 2 years or so any ways so that deal doesn't make to much sense for either team.
Habsfan2731
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Exactly that. Pacioretty/Gallagher/Plekanec/Galchenyuk are the only forwards that we know for a fact what we're getting from them. Radulov we have no idea, Yakupov we'd have no idea & RNH at best essentially replaces Plekanec, it's still not a worthwhile gamble at the stage the Canadiens are in.
two-way what now ? more pacioretty's means we just get to observe what talent without drive means.
We need the points we would lose if he gets shipped, but we need a captain who leads by example as well, not one who consistently folds when the chips are down, what we do not need is more empty net or meaningless goals.
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CharlesHabsFan
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I like Pacs...but unfortunately a lot of this is true. He's also been a no-show in the playoffs thus far in his career.
He really reminds me of Rick Nash - big, fast, defensively responsible, but doesn't use his size and isn't a big game player.
Since his 1st PO in 2012-2013, Pacioretty is tied 1st in goals (with Bourque
) and tied 2nd in points with Gallagher (behind PK 
) with the Habs. PO goalscoring has been a big problem for the Habs since 1994.League wise, he's tied 45th with Kopitar (45 games) in goals. He's tied 81st in points with guys like Marchand and Zetterberg (tied 66th in ppg for players with 20 games or more).
He may not be the ultimate PO warrior, but his ''no-showiness'' is overblown by many people.
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oconnor9sean
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This is original, hilarious and frankly very refreshing.
Keep up the valuable contributions you are making on a day-to-day basis.
SLAPSHOT723
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As I said before, probably Bailey, Mayfield, 2nd. I'd give up a 1st if that was the absolute dealbreaker, but I'd try to push for just the 2nd.
I also wouldn't do this deal if Barzal makes the team, but I like Plekanec and I think we need at least one more top-6 forward, whether it be a RW or a 2C.
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so a 30 goal scorer, a starting goalie and a Norris winning Dman. Sure. But we don't need the goalie so it doesn't really fit
Would the Habs be interested in a captain swap with the Blue Jackets? Foligno for Patches? If Nick plays with Galchenyuk and gets PP time, he could put up very similar numbers to what he did when he was next to Johansen.
Would Minnesota be willing to do a 2 for 1 swap.
Something like
Niederriter & Zucker
Coyle & Zucker
Coyle & Niederrieter
for
Pacioretty
Something like
Niederriter & Zucker
Coyle & Zucker
Coyle & Niederrieter
for
Pacioretty
SmellOfVictory
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This is original, hilarious and frankly very refreshing.
Keep up the valuable contributions you are making on a day-to-day basis.
One ****post and suddenly I don't contribute. lol. Whatever.
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