Player Discussion Max Domi Part II

[DramaticGloveSave]

The thing that has impressed me the most about Domi so far to me isn't his point totals, it is the plays he's making prior to us ending up with the scoring chances. He's been starting plays from our own end or in the neutral zone (hard back checks, quick passes etc) and then the next thing we know we are in the opponent's end with a scoring chance.

Yup. This is why I think his play is sustainable. Perhaps the production isn't sustainable, but I think the way he tilts the ice is.

 

[jaffy27]

he isnt a real C tho. The only reason he is playing as one cuz we are the Habs with no C depth (currently). I fully expect to go fishing in the UFA market (Duchene?) and/or fill our C depth with our deep prospect pool. I mean as soon as Kotka, Poehling, Suzuki are ready, do you really think he stays as a C?
1C - Kotka
2C - Poehling/UFA signing/Suzuki
3C - Poehling/Danault
I expect him to transition to the Wing where his game is better suited

I see Domi as a centre....Suzuki I see as a winger.

Kotka
Domi
Poehling

That’s my 3 centres moving fwd......

Unless we draft a Cozens or Dach, that’s who I’m going with for the next decade

 

[417]

The thing that has impressed me the most about Domi so far to me isn't his point totals, it is the plays he's making prior to us ending up with the scoring chances. He's been starting plays from our own end or in the neutral zone (hard back checks, quick passes etc) and then the next thing we know we are in the opponent's end with a scoring chance.

To me...this is what stands out the most from Domi compared to Galchenyuk (sorry, I don't mean to always make the comparison, but it's difficult to separate both players at this point).

Domi just has more of an impact on the game in all facets of it.

Galchenyuk may have more flash, but Domi's got way more substance to his game.

On a good team, I think you need a bit of both. But right now, I think it's a trade that both teams are happy with.

Domi's adaptation to playing C has been nothing short of impressive.

 

[Habs Icing]

The thing that has impressed me the most about Domi so far to me isn't his point totals, it is the plays he's making prior to us ending up with the scoring chances. He's been starting plays from our own end or in the neutral zone (hard back checks, quick passes etc) and then the next thing we know we are in the opponent's end with a scoring chance.

Bingo!!!!!!!!!

And this is why I don't agree with WTK who maintains that Domi is not a #2 on a contender. Domi has shown he has all the ingredients to be a top 6 center. The only thing that will hold him back is work ethic. I'm not saying he has a poor ethic. I'm simply saying he puts in an effort and the results will be there.

And as many have already said this kid loves playing in the spotlight. I keep mentioning his World Juniors stint but I forgot the crowd in Montreal were chanting his name. That has rarely happened at a World Juniors and I'm sure he remembers it was here that they were chanting Domi.

 

[Habs Icing]

I see Domi as a centre....Suzuki I see as a winger.

Kotka
Domi
Poehling

That’s my 3 centres moving fwd......

Unless we draft a Cozens or Dach, that’s who I’m going with for the next decade

Man, oh man, a decade is a long time.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

I see Domi as a centre....Suzuki I see as a winger.

Kotka
Domi
Poehling

That’s my 3 centres moving fwd......

Unless we draft a Cozens or Dach, that’s who I’m going with for the next decade

That's where I'm at as well.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

To me...this is what stands out the most from Domi compared to Galchenyuk (sorry, I don't mean to always make the comparison, but it's difficult to separate both players at this point).

Domi just has more of an impact on the game in all facets of it.

Galchenyuk may have more flash, but Domi's got way more substance to his game.

On a good team, I think you need a bit of both. But right now, I think it's a trade that both teams are happy with.

Domi's adaptation to playing C has been nothing short of impressive.

And as much as Galchenyuk has "flash" I doubt he's walked around as many defenders with the puck in his entire career as Domi has in just these 10 games so far. Galchenyuk is like a streetballer, works great on the playground, but in terms of the actual games, Domi's skill translates better due to quicker processing ability.

 

[sandviper]

To me...this is what stands out the most from Domi compared to Galchenyuk (sorry, I don't mean to always make the comparison, but it's difficult to separate both players at this point).

Domi just has more of an impact on the game in all facets of it.

Galchenyuk may have more flash, but Domi's got way more substance to his game.

On a good team, I think you need a bit of both. But right now, I think it's a trade that both teams are happy with.

Domi's adaptation to playing C has been nothing short of impressive.

I don't disagree but I think the main thing is Domi plays the type of game MB and Julien (and to some extent, probably MT) wants. Hustle, effort and now more recently, speed. Not to say I don't think Galchenyuk always just floated out there, but the team needed centres to drive play which I think Domi does. Not sure if he's going to maintain this production pace, but he's the type of player who will give 100% every night; so long as he doesn't do anything stupid.

I personally would have rather have kept Galchenyuk, but there was no question he was done with this current management. I hope Alex all the best in Arizona, but he never was going to get the opportunity here. Whether this was on management or Alex himself is really irrelevant now; Galchenyuk was never going to ever be a center in Montreal this season or beyond.

 

[417]

And as much as Galchenyuk has "flash" I doubt he's walked around as many defenders with the puck in his entire career as Domi has in just these 10 games so far. Galchenyuk is like a streetballer, works great on the playground, but in terms of the actual games, Domi's skill translates better due to quicker processing ability.

Agreed 100%...

I've always said it re: Galchenyuk but he's a better player, the less time he has with the puck on his stick.

The more he has it, the more he tries to process things, then his feet stop moving, his head/shoulders start bobbing & weaving and everything falls apart.

But if you can get a guy whose good at controlling the puck and drawing defenders away from Galchenyuk...then Galchenyuk has the kind of shot to score 30+ easy (which is why I think Clayton Keller is the perfect linemate for him).

While he has a lot of attributes that scream "he's a C"...the more time has passed, the more I think he's better as a winger. The little i've watched of him in Arizona, also reinforces that for me.

 

[Habs Icing]

I don't disagree but I think the main thing is Domi plays the type of game MB and Julien (and to some extent, probably MT) wants. Hustle, effort and now more recently, speed. Not to say I don't think Galchenyuk always just floated out there, but the team needed centres to drive play which I think Domi does. Not sure if he's going to maintain this production pace, but he's the type of player who will give 100% every night; so long as he doesn't do anything stupid.

I personally would have rather have kept Galchenyuk, but there was no question he was done with this current management. I hope Alex all the best in Arizona, but he never was going to get the opportunity here. Whether this was on management or Alex himself is really irrelevant now; Galchenyuk was never going to ever be a center in Montreal this season or beyond.

From what I've seen of his games in Zona, he won't be a center there either.

 

[FrankMTL]

I'm surprised Domi actually has a pretty decent shot. Maybe everybody telling him he should shoot more is starting to sink in. I've always thought this guy had 60 point potential in this league. Hopefully his effort remains the same all year long.

 

[jaffy27]

Man, oh man, a decade is a long time.

Kotka will be 28
Domi will be 33
Poehling will be 29?

If Dach or Cozens is drafted, they’d be 27-28.....

It’s all good

 

[Habs Icing]

Kotka will be 28
Domi will be 33
Poehling will be 29?

If Dach or Cozens is drafted, they’d be 27-28.....

It’s all good

I wasn't implying they would be too old, I was just fantasizing about having a strong center corps for a decade. The last time we had a strong center corps for a whole decade was when Serge Savard was GM.

 

[417]

From what I've seen of his games in Zona, he won't be a center there either.

Man it would be quite the headlines if Max Domi ends up being the one who sticks as a center in Montreal and Galchenyuk gets moved back to the wing in Arizona.

I think that's where he ultimately ends up IMO, but I doubt the Coyotes want to even entertain that thought this early.

 

[jaffy27]

I wasn't implying they would be too old, I was just fantasizing about having a strong center corps for a decade. The last time we had a strong center corps for a whole decade was when Serge Savard was GM.

I get two of them are unproven but the word is that they will both be very good, I mean if we can talk about other teams and how their projected top prospects will succeed at the NHL level then we can certainly do it for the habs too.

Kotka and Poehling both have the size of ideal top C’s and Domi gives you that other element of speed and craftyness while also having the bite of a pitbull.

I’m liking the making of this trio, and who knows how Olofsson will progress, and if we for some reason draft high again (not looking good though), we are in serious business of possibly having a top 6-8 in the NHL when it comes to C’s. Where not there yet but it’s looking good.

 

[Habs Icing]

For those that haven't read this scouting report on Domi in the Elite Prospect page:

"Fairly small but a balanced skater with very good lower-body strength, all this Domi shares with his father on the ice is a name. Max Domi is a wonderful playmaker with fantastic puckhandling. He is a good skater with quick acceleration and elite top-end speed. Domi likes to stay low, which, combined with his tremendous skating and skills with the puck, compensates for his small stature. While offensive skillset enable to him to be a center, winger, playmaker or finisher, Domi needs to work on his defensive game and discipline."

This was written 6 years ago. That was exactly as I saw him as a junior. The only things I would add are his elite edge work, vision and IQ. His defensive game has progressed by leaps and bounds.

 

[Habs Icing]

Agreed 100%...

I've always said it re: Galchenyuk but he's a better player, the less time he has with the puck on his stick.

The more he has it, the more he tries to process things, then his feet stop moving, his head/shoulders start bobbing & weaving and everything falls apart.

But if you can get a guy whose good at controlling the puck and drawing defenders away from Galchenyuk...then Galchenyuk has the kind of shot to score 30+ easy (which is why I think Clayton Keller is the perfect linemate for him).

While he has a lot of attributes that scream "he's a C"...the more time has passed, the more I think he's better as a winger. The little i've watched of him in Arizona, also reinforces that for me.

I haven't seen enough of Keller's style to comment but one of the reasons I was disappointed that Chucky was going the other way in the trade was because I knew Domi and Galchenyuk would be a terror for other teams. That duo would just light up opposing nets. To this day I still would have traded Drouin instead of Galchenyuk with all his baggage.

 

[Deebs]

To this day I still would have traded Drouin instead of Galchenyuk with all his baggage.

Gotta disagree. The right player left us and Drouin's chemistry with Max is legit.

 

[Habs Icing]

Gotta disagree. The right player left us and Drouin's chemistry with Max is legit.

Maybe other elements would affect Galchenyuk's game but I think Chucky's skill set would mesh with Domi perfectly. Drouin has played better in some games but he never places himself in optimal positions to receive Domi's passes.

If nothing else Galchenyuk knew where to go on the ice for his shot on net. Domi would have made Chucky a consistent 40 goal player. Drouin is still trying to figure out what sort of player he'll be. Chucky half realized he was another Pacioretty. A player with an elite shot.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

For those that haven't read this scouting report on Domi in the Elite Prospect page:

"Fairly small but a balanced skater with very good lower-body strength, all this Domi shares with his father on the ice is a name. Max Domi is a wonderful playmaker with fantastic puckhandling. He is a good skater with quick acceleration and elite top-end speed. Domi likes to stay low, which, combined with his tremendous skating and skills with the puck, compensates for his small stature. While offensive skillset enable to him to be a center, winger, playmaker or finisher, Domi needs to work on his defensive game and discipline."

This was written 6 years ago. That was exactly as I saw him as a junior. The only things I would add are his elite edge work, vision and IQ. His defensive game has progressed by leaps and bounds.

yeah the IQ thing has surprised me. So smart. One of the reasons I don't think he's overachieving THAT much. Still trying to be cautious. I hope this last page or two doesn't jinx him! lol

I haven't seen enough of Keller's style to comment but one of the reasons I was disappointed that Chucky was going the other way in the trade was because I knew Domi and Galchenyuk would be a terror for other teams. That duo would just light up opposing nets. To this day I still would have traded Drouin instead of Galchenyuk with all his baggage.

Drouin to me has the higher upside but he'll likely be the more frustrating out of the two. Drouin's speed fits this team better imo. I was a Galch fan for sure but I don't know how he could keep up with Domi tbh.

 

[Habby4Life]

Maybe other elements would affect Galchenyuk's game but I think Chucky's skill set would mesh with Domi perfectly. Drouin has played better in some games but he never places himself in optimal positions to receive Domi's passes.

If nothing else Galchenyuk knew where to go on the ice for his shot on net. Domi would have made Chucky a consistent 40 goal player. Drouin is still trying to figure out what sort of player he'll be. Chucky half realized he was another Pacioretty. A player with an elite shot.

Chucky a consistent 40 goal player - thats a pretty faaaaaar stretch - quite laughable.

 

[Deebs]

Maybe other elements would affect Galchenyuk's game but I think Chucky's skill set would mesh with Domi perfectly. Drouin has played better in some games but he never places himself in optimal positions to receive Domi's passes.

If nothing else Galchenyuk knew where to go on the ice for his shot on net. Domi would have made Chucky a consistent 40 goal player. Drouin is still trying to figure out what sort of player he'll be. Chucky half realized he was another Pacioretty. A player with an elite shot.

I don't think Chucky would've been able to keep up to this team's pace. A poor skater with a weak effort level.

 

[Vlad The Impaler]

I was disappointed that Chucky was going the other way in the trade was because I knew Domi and Galchenyuk would be a terror for other teams. That duo would just light up opposing nets. To this day I still would have traded Drouin instead of Galchenyuk with all his baggage.

One of those rare times where I'm actually glad Bergevin is in charge and not the HF political agenda!

Galchenyuk is a bum, and Drouin a much better player.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Maybe other elements would affect Galchenyuk's game but I think Chucky's skill set would mesh with Domi perfectly. Drouin has played better in some games but he never places himself in optimal positions to receive Domi's passes.

If nothing else Galchenyuk knew where to go on the ice for his shot on net. Domi would have made Chucky a consistent 40 goal player. Drouin is still trying to figure out what sort of player he'll be. Chucky half realized he was another Pacioretty. A player with an elite shot.

I really don't want to criticize a player no longer on the team, and I wish him luck, but I'd be surprised if Galchenyuk even became a regular 30 goal scorer. No one doubts his talent level but there 's something missing to his game. If he ever hits 40 I'd be surprised but very happy for him.

 

[Habs]

Domi plays better in traffic than I expected, much better. Better in tight areas etc. Alex was always a perimeter player, that works on some teams, and it did one year very well.