Player Discussion Max Domi Part II

[417]

Did it come out? Citation needed.

Speaks a lot that the cowards in MTL media didn't report on something clearly in the public/fans' interest in order to further ingratiate themselves with the Habs organization. They literally work to conspire against the fans and expect us to pay them for their glorified PR job (eg The Athletic, which I've cancelled).

The NHL substance abuse program is anonymous...

Or rather, it's supposed to be.

 

[HuGort]

Domi playing like a #1 center certainly has added a lot to this club. If any of those other guys we acquired to play 1C had worked out, Gomez, Galchenyuk, Drouin, etc... this club would have either a cup or two or got to finals. From 2010 to 2015ish. We got to the final 4 twice, came within a Game7 overtime of beating cup winning Bruins in 2011. Without a #1 center, should be telling you something.

 

[Deebs]

I just love the complete level. Even if he isn't producing points (haven't seen that yet) we know he'll be busting his butt at both ends. So similar to Gally and that's great for us

 

[Church]

My friend has a type 1 diabetic son who's about to get his insulin pump. Apparently Max is a huge inspiration to those kids.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

On most clubs? Probably a two. On a contending team? He's a three

If he keeps this up? Nah he's a #2. You don't need two future HOFers at your #1 and #2 to be a contender. I mean I guess technically he wouldn't displace Tavares or Malkin or Backstrom (don't know if he's the #2 now or not) but I don't think he's enough orders of magnitude below these guys at this point to say he can't be a #2 on a contender.

Plus look who he's tied with points wise at the moment. it's not like he's surrounded by crazy talent either. Drouin's been more good than bad but plenty of 'meh' moments. Lehkonen's playing solid but flubbing a lot of chances. Domi's a play driver.

I don't understand the quality of play argument. Christ he's playing like a middling to solid but lower tier #1 let alone a #2 which is unreal. The real argument is whether this is sustainable. I'm not convinced 100% it is. It could be but it really just seems too good to be true. Kid's playing like a star.

 

[Nedved]

Domi has been incredible for us. I didn't have any expectations, but this is a pleasant surprise about how dominant he's been for us. He's the only reason why we're off to a great start. It was a risky move, but so far so good. Hopefully he can continue to produce and play this hard.

 

[Gustave]

Trading and drafting top 6 centerman in the same offseason is some sort of small miracle for us Habs fans.

I truly hope Domi continues to look so comfortable at the position. It gives Drouin the opportunity to thrive as a winger. It pushes Danault down to a more suitable role. A miracle I tell you.

 

[Baksfamous112]

We've all been that age. Stop the presses yet again.

That wasn't the point. I was merely echoing the sentiments of the poster I was responding to, when the poster stated that we have to exercise caution when it comes to off ice behavior. I don't want to get into it more than that as it's immaterial. I'm enjoying watching Domi perform, which is all that really matters.

The fact that Gallagher hangs out with him is a good sign. I remember Galchenyuk and Gallagher were always together up until all the rumors started about Galchenyuk. That’s when Gallagher cut ties with him.

If he’s “Gallagher approved”, I’m not worries a single bit about his off ice and personality. To be frank, he seems like a cool guy to be around.

On most clubs? Probably a two. On a contending team? He's a three

Lmao. A three? Maybe on Pittsburgh and Toronto but that’s it. A good 3C plays good defensively while putting up 30-35 points a year. That’s FAR from what Domi brings

 

[Habs Icing]

If he keeps this up? Nah he's a #2. You don't need two future HOFers at your #1 and #2 to be a contender. I mean I guess technically he wouldn't displace Tavares or Malkin or Backstrom (don't know if he's the #2 now or not) but I don't think he's enough orders of magnitude below these guys at this point to say he can't be a #2 on a contender.

Plus look who he's tied with points wise at the moment. it's not like he's surrounded by crazy talent either. Drouin's been more good than bad but plenty of 'meh' moments. Lehkonen's playing solid but flubbing a lot of chances. Domi's a play driver.

I don't understand the quality of play argument. Christ he's playing like a middling to solid but lower tier #1 let alone a #2 which is unreal. The real argument is whether this is sustainable. I'm not convinced 100% it is. It could be but it really just seems too good to be true. Kid's playing like a star.

What may not be sustainable is the middling to the lower tier #1 but the #2 is definitely sustainable. He has the skills, drive and vision. Let's be honest Lehkonen and Domi are the two who come to play every game, every shift. Drouin much too often (compared to those two) has been a passenger

 

[jaffy27]

Domi looks to me as having the same fearlessness as Gallagher.

I see it like this......they are the same power tool but split in two.....

Domi is the Skill.......

While Gallagher is the saw....

 

[Vlad The Impaler]

Did it come out? Citation needed.

Speaks a lot that the cowards in MTL media didn't report on something clearly in the public/fans' interest in order to further ingratiate themselves with the Habs organization. They literally work to conspire against the fans and expect us to pay them for their glorified PR job (eg The Athletic, which I've cancelled).

Many journalists and connected individuals know who parties, who's angry with who and the like but wisely choose to not report on such trivialities. There are many reasons for this, most importantly that they are into sports journalism and not insider gossips nor investigative reporting, which requires effort and legal backing from the journalist's employer.

Did sports analysts and journalists know Galchenyuk, Smith-Pelly and Beaulieu were notable partiers? Of course, almost everybody who is moderately connected does. Are they paid to report on that? No. When some of these players got caught with skanks, booze and the police had to break a fight between Galchenyuk and his girlfriend, did sports reporters report it? Not a lot. They let journalists who are used to cover these type of incidents do the work, as they should.

As 417 said, the substance abuse program is anonymous. Again, some players, journalists and "connected" individuals usually know about that stuff. But you don't causally throw around that a player has entered the program. This was Mario Tremblay doing the wrong move.

Besides, it's unclear if it is in "the fans interest" and even if it was, I'm not sure people would believe it. Even when it is glaringly obvious the events reported are true, you'll find people (especially on HF) who will be in complete denial about it and scream about conspiracies and talk about "the French media" like a crazy person shouting at sidewalks.

 

[jaffy27]

My friend has a type 1 diabetic son who's about to get his insulin pump. Apparently Max is a huge inspiration to those kids.

He’s an inspiration to me and I ain’t even diabetic!!!!

 

[417]

Many journalists and connected individuals know who parties, who's angry with who and the like but wisely choose to not report on such trivialities. There are many reasons for this, most importantly that they are into sports journalism and not insider gossips nor investigative reporting, which requires effort and legal backing from the journalist's employer.

Did sports analysts and journalists know Galchenyuk, Smith-Pelly and Beaulieu were notable partiers? Of course, almost everybody who is moderately connected does. Are they paid to report on that? No. When some of these players got caught with skanks, booze and the police had to break a fight between Galchenyuk and his girlfriend, did sports reporters report it? Not a lot. They let journalists who are used to cover these type of incidents do the work, as they should.

As 417 said, the substance abuse program is anonymous. Again, some players, journalists and "connected" individuals usually know about that stuff. But you don't causally throw around that a player has entered the program. This was Mario Tremblay doing the wrong move.

Besides, it's unclear if it is in "the fans interest" and even if it was, I'm not sure people would believe it. Even when it is glaringly obvious the events reported are true, you'll find people (especially on HF) who will be in complete denial about it and scream about conspiracies and talk about "the French media" like a crazy person shouting at sidewalks.

Personally, I don't think it's on the fans interest to know which player is going into the substance abuse program.

Its anonymous and it should remain that way...just like it would be for anyone entering such programs.

They're anonymous for a reason.

 

[1909]

Personally, I don't think it's on the fans interest to know which player is going into the substance abuse program.

Its anonymous and it should remain that way...just like it would be for anyone entering such programs.

They're anonymous for a reason.

But knowing that a player has substances issues might help understand why this player underperform or behave strangely. We could excuse the guy and salute him when he is taking the proper measures to clean up his life.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Really could care less about who “won” the trade, Domi simply is a better fit with us due to his speed/effort and makes us a better team.

I hope Galchenyuk has success in Arizona, but he just wouldn’t have fit the style the team wants to play now.

 

[Vlad The Impaler]

Personally, I don't think it's on the fans interest to know which player is going into the substance abuse program.

Its anonymous and it should remain that way...just like it would be for anyone entering such programs.

They're anonymous for a reason.

I agree.

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

Personally, I don't think it's on the fans interest to know which player is going into the substance abuse program.

Its anonymous and it should remain that way...just like it would be for anyone entering such programs.

They're anonymous for a reason.

The programs are anonymous to protect the players' current and future earnings, not because it's too personal to report upon. For instance, the NFL releases this information (because the NFLPA is toothless).

 

[Sterling Archer]

Really could care less about who “won” the trade, Domi simply is a better fit with us due to his speed/effort and makes us a better team.

I hope Galchenyuk has success in Arizona, but he just wouldn’t have fit the style the team wants to play now.

That’s exactly it. Chucky is very skilled but doesn’t play the style Julien wanted to play. They can both be good players.

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

Really could care less about who “won” the trade, Domi simply is a better fit with us due to his speed/effort and makes us a better team.

I hope Galchenyuk has success in Arizona, but he just wouldn’t have fit the style the team wants to play now.

He was definitely too slow for the Habs we've seen of the first ten games this year. But it remains to be seen if a quick pace is more sustainable than a quick release and real talent.

I want Domi to succeed with the Habs. I simply don't think it's fair to trash Galchenyuk in praising him, and it's a bit early to rate the trade in either respect. After the Subban-Weber trade we heard similar things when Subban started slow and Weber was en fuego. I have nothing against Chucky (or PK) so I don't like seeing them trashed and put down after such a small period of time post-trade.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Many journalists and connected individuals know who parties, who's angry with who and the like but wisely choose to not report on such trivialities. There are many reasons for this, most importantly that they are into sports journalism and not insider gossips nor investigative reporting, which requires effort and legal backing from the journalist's employer.

Did sports analysts and journalists know Galchenyuk, Smith-Pelly and Beaulieu were notable partiers? Of course, almost everybody who is moderately connected does. Are they paid to report on that? No. When some of these players got caught with skanks, booze and the police had to break a fight between Galchenyuk and his girlfriend, did sports reporters report it? Not a lot. They let journalists who are used to cover these type of incidents do the work, as they should.

As 417 said, the substance abuse program is anonymous. Again, some players, journalists and "connected" individuals usually know about that stuff. But you don't causally throw around that a player has entered the program. This was Mario Tremblay doing the wrong move.

Besides, it's unclear if it is in "the fans interest" and even if it was, I'm not sure people would believe it. Even when it is glaringly obvious the events reported are true, you'll find people (especially on HF) who will be in complete denial about it and scream about conspiracies and talk about "the French media" like a crazy person shouting at sidewalks.

The french media did know all this for a while and it explains why at l'antichambre they were on his case almost after every game. Every time Galchy did some mistakes it was noticed with a video (Gaston Therrien for example). So basicly they did not tell us Galchy was using illegal substances but on the other hand they were doing what was ethic in his case : showing his on-ice play over and over. It looked like harassment and now I understand why they did it. I understand but not fully agree. Only Mario Tremblay did tell about his use of drugs. But Mario Tremblay and good ethic doesn't go together.

 

[1909]

He was definitely too slow for the Habs we've seen of the first ten games this year. But it remains to be seen if a quick pace is more sustainable than a quick release and real talent.

I want Domi to succeed with the Habs. I simply don't think it's fair to trash Galchenyuk in praising him, and it's a bit early to rate the trade in either respect. After the Subban-Weber trade we heard similar things when Subban started slow and Weber was en fuego. I have nothing against Chucky (or PK) so I don't like seeing them trashed and put down after such a small period of time post-trade.

Different teams, different teamates, different play system, new environement.... + So many other aspects can impact the player's overall game. What counts at the end, is how these players are contributing to the success of their new team. And if BOTH teams involved are helped, that's super.

 

[The Great Weal]

On most clubs? Probably a two. On a contending team? He's a three

Well I'm not going to place him as a 1,2 or 3 center ten games in. I dont know if he can keep up by playing this well at center. I mean people here forget that Galcehynuk was only behind Ovechkin in goals during a period of time too.

However, if he does keep up, he would quite easily be a top 6 c on most teams. I also think the saying "on a contending team" is a bit flawed. There isnt a single center in the league besides McDavid that would be a top 6 center in Pittsburgh. They are a contending team, does that mean that all other centers are number threes on a cup contending team? On the other hand, Nashville is a cup contender too, do you think Turris is a legit 2? Hes their 2nd line center on a cup contending team, is he better than Domi(if he keeps this up)?

There are many ways a cup contenders become cup contenders, one thing I'll agree with you is that you undoubtedly need a #1 C. Other than that, you need excellent pieces in other areas.

 

[savard95]

Well I'm not going to place him as a 1,2 or 3 center ten games in. I dont know if he can keep up by playing this well at center. I mean people here forget that Galcehynuk was only behind Ovechkin in goals during a period of time too.

However, if he does keep up, he would quite easily be a top 6 c on most teams. I also think the saying "on a contending team" is a bit flawed. There isnt a single center in the league besides McDavid that would be a top 6 center in Pittsburgh. They are a contending team, does that mean that all other centers are number threes on a cup contending team? On the other hand, Nashville is a cup contender too, do you think Turris is a legit 2? Hes their 2nd line center on a cup contending team, is he better than Domi(if he keeps this up)?

There are many ways a cup contenders become cup contenders, one thing I'll agree with you is that you undoubtedly need a #1 C. Other than that, you need excellent pieces in other areas.

Like the Jets. They're definitely cup contenders and their 1C (Sheif) is amazing, but after that, it's okay.

 

[The Great Weal]

Like the Jets. They're definitely cup contenders and their 1C (Sheif) is amazing, but after that, it's okay.

Yeah that's another example. Also the Hawks after Toews during their cup runs.

 

[buddahsmoka1]

I said it then and I will say it now, Domi is better than 27. Thankfully, all the golden boy drama queens on this board have begun to get their hysterics under control.

That's not even the worse of it. I got ostracized for merely suggesting that it is entirely possible that Domi is as skilled as Galchenyuk.