Player Discussion Max Domi Part II

[Sniperr]

Domi should have had an assist on his goal. that pass what something else.

 

[the]

145 to be exact!! lol

Domi has been a real nice surprise!!

146...I like those coyotes

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Seguin wasn't liked in Boston's lockerroom. Dallas don't seem to care much.

Seguin truly is a ****** bag. Max has always been a good kid. His father is a back stabbing sociopath , thankfully his mother is a great person.

 

[THE HOFF]

sure, just like the guys who followed Armia outwest, or watched tons of Detroit games cause they loved Tatar so much...

it's just a coincidence people (and not only you) happened to follow players who magically became Habs. and it's a coincidence none of them were talking about said players before they became Habs.


I mean, sure, you watch all Habs games, tons of other NHL games (not just highlights, you FOLLOWED him you know), tons of european leagues games as well(same here, not just highlights)... like everyone else who, by coincidence, happened to be following players who became Habs.

I do get where you are coming from, there is certainly truth to that in many cases. There was a Max domi thread in which I expressed my optimism way before the first game, but I won't be the guy who starts the ''let's get max domi '' thread. Liked him a lot for a long time and that's something my friends would know. I have a severe allergy to Trade/proposal threads, so don't be surprised if you learn about my interest for the player when we actually get him. I can PM you a shortlist of players I like so we can avoid such reactions in the future

on top of that, what does it matter ? its not like a player wasn't good here and flourished elsewhere - where the debate would actually make sense - he's playing good, just rejoice man.

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

Seguin truly is a ****** bag. Max has always been a good kid. His father is a back stabbing sociopath , thankfully his mother is a great person.

While hockey culture is extremely white and conservative, Domi stands out as an outspoken MAGA guy. I don't think he's a particularly "good kid". But he doesn't need to be.

I wonder why the Yotes traded him. Was he not liked by the room? Any off-ice issues?

 

[Vlad The Impaler]

I won’t say we won this trade yet but man...I actually like this Domi guy.

That trade was won the second it was made. Another great Bergevin move.

 

[Runner77]

For sure...Domi 10 points in 9 games. Galchenyuk 1 assist. Goes to show how much the so called "experts" on this board know. They all condemned the trade to the lowest.

If the comparison is going to be based solely on points, then it's unfair to use the numbers of a player who was injured and who didn't play the same or a similar number of games.

However, it goes beyond that. Domi doesn't look out of place playing center and fills a role that the team desperately needed. And so far, he's shown a lot of intensity, game in and game out and he and Gallagher look like they're pushing and encouraging each other (bromance?) which is nice to see.

Domi has been great on his own merits. It doesn't matter what Galchenyuk does or doesn't do, Domi's performance so far has been worthy all its own. And he's probably greatly appreciating what it's like to be in a situation where he's being valued by the coaching staff as opposed to how he was handled in Zona.

Domi is currently playing like a #1C.

Do we have any metrics to see how Domi stacks up against other first line centers in the league? Or do we need a greater sample size of games played?

people should be careful with that
we'd be shocked learning who does what

The only thing I've heard from a mainstream media source was the time two years ago when Guillaume Latendresse was on 98.5 FM and confirmed that Galchenyuk got so drunk at a club, that he couldn't stand on his own anymore. He was taken out of the club by two individuals who supported him from under his arms.

I've also read several other accounts of excessive nightlife drinking, however, they are not as credible as Latendresse, so I don't attach any value to them. Hence, your words of caution fully apply.

But none of the legitimate contender teams. I get it, we've been bad at C for so long but if you've watched the playoffs the last five years, you know what level your Cs need to be to win it all.

That's a fair point. Based on his play so far and assuming he were used solely at the center position, what line would he be playing on, on most clubs? Can we agree that he would likely have no. 2C capability on most clubs?

 

[jaffy27]

Do we have any metrics to see how Domi stacks up against other first line centers in the league? Or do we need a greater sample size of games played?

I certainly want a greater sample size, it’s almost too good to be true right now.

But mister man is it nice to see us aquire a legit and productive top 6 player. He’s a gamer and I see him being a clutch, playoff warrior

 

[Runner77]

I certainly want a greater sample size, it’s almost too good to be true right now.

But mister man is it nice to see us aquire a legit and productive top 6 player. He’s a gamer and I see him being a clutch, playoff warrior

Absolutely. He's one of the key additions making it fun to be a Habs fan, again.

About the backstories and how he supposedly was in Zona, this could be an example about how people change and mature, assuming the negative stuff being bandied about by some Zona fans is even founded.

And then there's the age-old factor that Hab fans absolutely value -- a player who is always trying, who goes all out and who gets noticed. I don't know how sustainable that might be given the ebbs and flows of a long season, but I do know how much fans appreciate this type of playing style.

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

The only thing I've heard from a mainstream media source was the time two years ago when Guillaume Latendresse was on 98.5 FM and confirmed that Galchenyuk got so drunk at a club, that he couldn't stand on his own anymore. He was taken out of the club by two individuals who supported him from under his arms.

I've also read several other accounts of excessive nightlife drinking, however, they are not as credible as Latendresse, so I don't attach any value to them. Hence, your words of caution fully apply.

A twenty something got wobbly drunk at a club, stop the presses. I can't imagine how my life would've been affected if the things I got up to (and up my nose) were speculated upon radio lol. Sports, and indeed all, media will be insufferable in a few years when everybody will have come up in the "record everything and post in on social media" generation and everything is meticulously documented and reported on by the content hungry internet and nobody has any privacy whatsoever.

If Arizona had any hockey fans and anything worth doing, there would be stuff on Domi as well. That's why I pay no credence to this stuff.

If someone has a substance problem, it'll show up sooner than later. Chucky being a single, party guy wasn't his problem in Montreal. I'd argue he didn't have a problem per se so much as he wasn't given a proper chance (or didn't earn one) and in turn it caused friction with the organization and mutual distrust. He isn't a flawless player and has a good many warts, but he wasn't developed properly and wasn't given opportunities to grow his game. Both can be true.

Side thought: I bet the really good clubs will have even more strict no-phone policies. Many private clubs from Soho House and up insist on no photography already.

 

[webersshot]

Can some one with the skills please shop domi’s face on gagas and Drouins in cooper?

 

[Runner77]

A twenty something got wobbly drunk at a club, stop the presses.

We've all been that age. Stop the presses yet again.

That wasn't the point. I was merely echoing the sentiments of the poster I was responding to, when the poster stated that we have to exercise caution when it comes to off ice behavior. I don't want to get into it more than that as it's immaterial. I'm enjoying watching Domi perform, which is all that really matters.

 

[Runner77]

Can some one with the skills please shop domi’s face on gagas and Drouins in cooper?

Might help if the image were visible.

 

[GHJimmy]

I'm loving him so much! He plays it with heart and soul! Works hard and he's an amazing player, the vision, skills, everything is there! I loved it how James Neal was picking on one of our players then domi stepped in asking Neal "you want it?" Throughout the Flames game and Neal refused

 

[Runner77]

I'm loving him so much! He plays it with heart and soul! Works hard and he's an amazing player, the vision, skills, everything is there! I loved it how James Neal was picking on one of our players then domi stepped in asking Neal "you want it?" Throughout the Flames game and Neal refused

Domi looks to me as having the same fearlessness as Gallagher.

 

[WeThreeKings]

That's a fair point. Based on his play so far and assuming he were used solely at the center position, what line would he be playing on, on most clubs? Can we agree that he would likely have no. 2C capability on most clubs?

On most clubs? Probably a two. On a contending team? He's a three

 

[Kriss E]

The only thing I've heard from a mainstream media source was the time two years ago when Guillaume Latendresse was on 98.5 FM and confirmed that Galchenyuk got so drunk at a club, that he couldn't stand on his own anymore. He was taken out of the club by two individuals who supported him from under his arms.

I've also read several other accounts of excessive nightlife drinking, however, they are not as credible as Latendresse, so I don't attach any value to them. Hence, your words of caution fully apply.

What 20 year old has this not happened to?

 

[BushFireRecordsRedux]

If he turns out to be a defensively r responsible 55-60 point center the trade is a home run

Yup, I agree. Whatever Galchenyuk does, it just wasn't a good fit here. He'd lost the faith of 2 different coaches and Julien isn't going anywhere. I don't begrudge him, it was just the right time to move on. Hope he thrives but Domi is a great fit with this coaching staff. Obviously he's not going to be a PPG player but if he keeps playing like this the points will be respectable and he's a better player in the Dzone and neutral zone than Galchenyuk was. Also his speed makes him a different element 5 on 5.

 

[Habs Icing]

On most clubs? Probably a two. On a contending team? He's a three

No disrespect meant but I'm wondering if your dislike for MB isn't clouding your judgement. Before the 2018 draft you (and I too) were raving about Akil Thomas. You said he could be a #2 center but definitely a top 6 player. Thomas plays a similar game to Domi. (One of the reasons I liked him). The only difference is that Domi has worked on his defensive game enormously.

 

[WeThreeKings]

No disrespect meant but I'm wondering if your dislike for MB isn't clouding your judgement. Before the 2018 draft you (and I too) were raving about Akil Thomas. You said he could be a #2 center but definitely a top 6 player. Thomas plays a similar game to Domi. (One of the reasons I liked him). The only difference is that Domi has worked on his defensive game enormously.

It's not hate on MB, it's re-adjusting expectations to fit the new NHL. Thomas at his potential, Domi playing how he is now in a consistent manner, it's just not good enough to beat a Backstrom, a Tavares, a Malkin, a Point, etc.

My approach is to maximize the team to be competitive against the best constructed rosters.. a Domi or a fully realized Thomas is on the Kadri level, or giving up some defense for offense over an Eller, an upgrade on a Bonino to make up for the difference between who we have a 2 vs. a Malkin.

Ideally we walk out of the draft with a Dach, Cozens or a Hughes, because I still don't believe this team keeps winning, I'll admit I'm wrong if they haven't nose-dived by the time January rolls around. And with one of those three, Kotkaniemi at 2, move Domi and Suzuki to the wing, and Poehling plays 3C.. and then I'd say we have the depth on the wings and down the middle to truly compete.

 

[Habs Icing]

It's not hate on MB, it's re-adjusting expectations to fit the new NHL. Thomas at his potential, Domi playing how he is now in a consistent manner, it's just not good enough to beat a Backstrom, a Tavares, a Malkin, a Point, etc.

My approach is to maximize the team to be competitive against the best constructed rosters.. a Domi or a fully realized Thomas is on the Kadri level, or giving up some defense for offense over an Eller, an upgrade on a Bonino to make up for the difference between who we have a 2 vs. a Malkin.

Ideally we walk out of the draft with a Dach, Cozens or a Hughes, because I still don't believe this team keeps winning, I'll admit I'm wrong if they haven't nose-dived by the time January rolls around. And with one of those three, Kotkaniemi at 2, move Domi and Suzuki to the wing, and Poehling plays 3C.. and then I'd say we have the depth on the wings and down the middle to truly compete.

Okay, I see your point but I don't agree. I think Domi will make an excellent #2. My worries are with Koko Puff. I don't know if he has what it takes to be a #1.

 

[Price4Prez]

It's not hate on MB, it's re-adjusting expectations to fit the new NHL. Thomas at his potential, Domi playing how he is now in a consistent manner, it's just not good enough to beat a Backstrom, a Tavares, a Malkin, a Point, etc.

My approach is to maximize the team to be competitive against the best constructed rosters.. a Domi or a fully realized Thomas is on the Kadri level, or giving up some defense for offense over an Eller, an upgrade on a Bonino to make up for the difference between who we have a 2 vs. a Malkin.

Ideally we walk out of the draft with a Dach, Cozens or a Hughes, because I still don't believe this team keeps winning, I'll admit I'm wrong if they haven't nose-dived by the time January rolls around. And with one of those three, Kotkaniemi at 2, move Domi and Suzuki to the wing, and Poehling plays 3C.. and then I'd say we have the depth on the wings and down the middle to truly compete.

I agree with alot of what you said, although i dont think we need Domi to be a Malkin or Tavares. Truth is, we cam do well having 2 "Kadris" as opposed to 1 "Malkin".

Also,i really dont think our problem is on the forward side. If you really watch the game and pay attention to the transition, how much better would we be if we had better defensemen?

Sure Weber coming back will help. Petry, Reilly are doing well. Juulsen does his part. But if we managed to replace Mete,Alzner,Benn,Ouelette -with better quality D, who can effectively get the puck out of the zone , our forwards would produce even more.

 

[dinodebino]

A twenty something got wobbly drunk at a club, stop the presses. I can't imagine how my life would've been affected if the things I got up to (and up my nose) were speculated upon radio lol. Sports, and indeed all, media will be insufferable in a few years when everybody will have come up in the "record everything and post in on social media" generation and everything is meticulously documented and reported on by the content hungry internet and nobody has any privacy whatsoever.

If Arizona had any hockey fans and anything worth doing, there would be stuff on Domi as well. That's why I pay no credence to this stuff.

If someone has a substance problem, it'll show up sooner than later. Chucky being a single, party guy wasn't his problem in Montreal. I'd argue he didn't have a problem per se so much as he wasn't given a proper chance (or didn't earn one) and in turn it caused friction with the organization and mutual distrust. He isn't a flawless player and has a good many warts, but he wasn't developed properly and wasn't given opportunities to grow his game. Both can be true.

Side thought: I bet the really good clubs will have even more strict no-phone policies. Many private clubs from Soho House and up insist on no photography already.

Chucky had a substance problem. THAT was documented. He went under the NHL Substance Abuse Program at least once. It SHOULDN'T have come out, but it did. All beat writers knew about it but dared not to write it publicly. Because it is supposed to be anonymous. But a drunken commentator did and it came out.

 

[Habs Icing]

Yup, I agree. Whatever Galchenyuk does, it just wasn't a good fit here. He'd lost the faith of 2 different coaches and Julien isn't going anywhere. I don't begrudge him, it was just the right time to move on. Hope he thrives but Domi is a great fit with this coaching staff. Obviously he's not going to be a PPG player but if he keeps playing like this the points will be respectable and he's a better player in the Dzone and neutral zone than Galchenyuk was. Also his speed makes him a different element 5 on 5.

I saw bits and parts of his 3 games. Offensively, Chucky will get his points. Defensively, it looks like he hasn't learned a damn thing. Let's revisit this conversation in 40-50 games maybe Tocchet will eventually get through to him.

 

[WhiskeySeven*]

Chucky had a substance problem. THAT was documented. He went under the NHL Substance Abuse Program at least once. It SHOULDN'T have come out, but it did. All beat writers knew about it but dared not to write it publicly. Because it is supposed to be anonymous. But a drunken commentator did and it came out.

Did it come out? Citation needed.

Speaks a lot that the cowards in MTL media didn't report on something clearly in the public/fans' interest in order to further ingratiate themselves with the Habs organization. They literally work to conspire against the fans and expect us to pay them for their glorified PR job (eg The Athletic, which I've cancelled).