Speculation: Matthew Tkachuk MEGA Thread (informs Flames he will not sign long term)

[kaddy]

With rumours of Tkachuk on the move. I've come up with a Blockbuster trade similar to one Burke made with Phaneuf trade.

Calgary

Marner
Reilly

Toronto

Tkachuk
Andersson


Flames get a replacement for Johnny Hockey. Leafs a thoughess for the playoffs. Who says no?

It's really not too far off if Tkachuk signs a decent contract.

Really Toronto needs Tanev and Markstrom

 

[ole ole]

Common sense

Or in this case homerism.

 

[Gliff]

McTavish + 2023 1st (top 5 protected) +

 

[Body Checker]

I think he’ll go to Philly with Provorov coming back as main piece amongst other pieces

 

[cyris]

Yes Rielly > Andersson.
But Tkachuk is younger tougher out-pointed and out scored Marner last season so what makes Marner better?

Marner had a better PPG and is better defensively.
Marner has been the best RW in the league the last 2 seasons as demonstrated by him being named a first team allstar 2 years in a row.

Or in this case homerism.

Yeah all the media who voted Marner as the best RW in the league 2 years in a row are also homers too right?

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Flames could attach Hanifin to the Tkachuk deal for a mega, mega trade. Don’t forget the rumoured Hall/Vatanen/Bennett/Hanifin deal with NJ.

Trade separately. No one wants/can add that much cap.

If you get a top prospect or young player for Tkachuk, Lindholm, and Hanifin it ensures a pretty solid rebuild. Quality > quantity I think is the key here. We have enough middle roster players (Coronato, Pelletier, Zary, Ruzicka). We just need a couple elite forwards and a few D depending on who we trade (I think we sign Kylington long term and Andersson stays)

 

[CanadienShark]

Just a thought ? Boston: David Pastrnak 6.6 million 1year Brandon Carlo 4.1 for 5 years- Calgary : Matthew Tkachuk RFA signs 9-10 Million Boston gets a power forward?

Terrible idea. I doubt Boston moves Pastrnak straight up, let alone adding Carlo.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Three way trade

To Boston: Kreider (waives NMC for hometown club)

To NYR: Tkachuk

To Calgary: Debrusk, Kakko, Lundkvist, Bos 1st

Probably a bit more in prospects or picks to Calgary from Boston’s side.

Why? Because I want Tkachuk on the Rangers. That’s all. Get in there Drury!

You know Flames are asking for Laf if NYR call

 

[Foppberg]

So weird.. Not sure what's in the water out in Calgary..

 

[Djp]

With rumours of Tkachuk on the move. I've come up with a Blockbuster trade similar to one Burke made with Phaneuf trade.

Calgary

Marner
Reilly

Toronto

Tkachuk
Andersson


Flames get a replacement for Johnny Hockey. Leafs a thoughess for the playoffs. Who says no?

Why not Matthews for Tkachuk and Lindholm….

 

[McJedi]

So weird.. Not sure what's in the water out in Calgary..

Water?

 

[CanadienShark]

Three way trade

To Boston: Kreider (waives NMC for hometown club)

To NYR: Tkachuk

To Calgary: Debrusk, Kakko, Lundkvist, Bos 1st

Probably a bit more in prospects or picks to Calgary from Boston’s side.

Why? Because I want Tkachuk on the Rangers. That’s all. Get in there Drury!

So....

Calgary trades: Tkachuk for Debrusk + Kakko + Lundkvist + Boston 1st
Boston trades: Debrusk + Boston 1st for Kreider
NY trades: Kreider + Kakko + Lundkvist for Tkachuk

Broken down that way, I think the Rangers lose this deal. Calgary gets great value for a player whose value has taken a hit. Boston... that seems fair, but I don't know if it makes sense for their direction.

Solid trade proposal that at least takes into account for needs.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

So....

Calgary trades: Tkachuk for Debrusk + Kakko + Lundkvist + Boston 1st
Boston trades: Debrusk + Boston 1st for Kreider
NY trades: Kreider + Kakko + Lundkvist for Tkachuk

Broken down that way, I think the Rangers lose this deal. Calgary gets great value for a player who's value has taken a hit. Boston... that seems fair, but I don't know if it makes sense for their direction.

Solid trade proposal that at least takes into account for needs.

It doesnt make sense for Boston at all. They arent trading another 1st + Debrusk for another LW that is 31 and making $6.5 when they already have 2 of those.

 

[CanadienShark]

It doesnt make sense for Boston at all. They arent trading another 1st + Debrusk for another LW that is 31 and making $6.5 when they already have 2 of those.

Which I said.

 

[Craigo85]

Not trying to turn this into a Leafs thread, and I know Calgary and Toronto are in different situations but this does make me worry about Matthews a bit more.

Hope you guys get a decent haul for him.

 

[ole ole]

Marner had a better PPG and is better defensively.
Marner has been the best RW in the league the last 2 seasons as demonstrated by him being named a first team allstar 2 years in a row.


Yeah all the media who voted Marner as the best RW in the league 2 years in a row are also homers too right?

How does that make him better than Tkachuk who plays LW?

 

[Royal Puck]

So weird.. Not sure what's in the water out in Calgary..

Don't draft Americans in Canada.

 

[kaddy]

Why not Matthews for Tkachuk and Lindholm….

Matthews - probably won't stay with us.
Lindholm - people don't get how important of a 2 way center he is.
Tkachuk - you don't find players like him very often.

No from the Flames.

 

[TootooTrain]

It doesnt make sense for Boston at all. They arent trading another 1st + Debrusk for another LW that is 31 and making $6.5 when they already have 2 of those.

Its not just another LWer. Its Krieder.

 

[swiftwin]

Hard pass.

 

[Wreckus]

You guys really think Calgary is going to knock it out of the park on the return for Tkachuk?

Calgary has no leverage. Every team knows that Tkachuk is available and they also know that they can get him for nothing after next season as he's probably getting a 1 year deal.

It'll be for picks, incl at least one 1st round pick, prospects, and a couple of players to offset Tkachuk's salary.

 

[lightstorm]

I really hope NJ is all over this.

Tkachuk for Mercer and 2nd?

We'll grab Tatar too if capspace is a concern.

 

[IranCondraAffair]

Boy you sound like a shitty sibling.

Or, you know, some people want their own lives

I really dont get people who say this so confidently.

You don't think Matthew wants to be a captain? Lead a team? Be "the guy"? You don't think theres a possibility that they would butt heads? It's unfathomable to you that a guy wouldn't want to be underneath his little brother in the team hierarchy, in the eyes of his teammates, and in the hearts and minds of the consumer?

Now, I am not saying that any of these reasons are applicable. But outright dismissing them as possibilities is ridiculously obtuse.

Oh, you're being ridiculous. When have brothers ever had power struggles amongst them? Seems like something out of a fairy tale!

Not power struggle. What happens to Brady when he brother does something detrimental to the team? What happens when Matthews is in a contract dispute? What happens when some player complains to Brady about something his brother is doing on-ice?

It is just asking for trouble,

 

[danny90]

Matthews - probably won't stay with us.
Lindholm - people don't get how important of a 2 way center he is.
Tkachuk - you don't find players like him very often.

No from the Flames.

Uhhh

 

[cyris]

How does that make him better than Tkachuk who plays LW?

Despite being a natural LW Tkachuck played RW last season with Johnny Hockey being the LW on his line……