Matthew "The Knee" Tkachuk suspension incoming?

[Auston Marlander]

If he had that much control of his fall he wouldn't be falling. Like I guess he's a professional athlete but if you can have your head below your feet and have enough presence of mind to drive your knee into the guy below you. That's some body contortionist level of control.

If you believe that I'm concerned about how little control you have over your body.

 

[DJJones]

It’s really not hard. Being a regular athlete is all you need, you don’t even need to be professional.

Ya maybe, no one's getting suspended for how they fall though. If it was intentional that's some 4D chess.

 

[Muston Atthews]

No suspension. A leaf should’ve been suspended by jumping him at the end of the game there though but soft team is soft

 

[Nothingbutglass]

I know exactly what you mean. Every single time I get shoved from behind, my automatic reaction is to pull my knee back and drive it into whatever's in front of me. It's reflexive.

You'd think since Toronto is the center of the hockey universe they'd get more respect from the refs, instead they get treated like a run of the mill chump team.

 

[Ottobot]

Not suspendable but don’t know how someone could deny or defend the intent.

 

[HanSolo]

Zero. Leafs fans exaggerating for the cause.

I don't care about either team one way or the other (if anything I think Leafs fandom is a little too loud and often boastful for my liking so I'd probably be less likely to side with them on something like this) and I thought it was pretty bad.

Maybe it's not suspension worthy but at minimum I don't think Tkachuk did enough to get off. Even if we can say this wasn't some reckless or intentional act, he sits with his knees on top of Campbell without so much as moving a muscle to try to get off. If Bogosian hadn't shoved him off, we can only speculate as to how much longer he would've sat in that position like that. Considering he didn't take any care to get Campbell out of that situation I don't think it's unreasonable to think he'd have been there another few seconds.

 

[DJJones]

If you believe that I'm concerned about how little control you have over your body.

If I'm going forward or sideways I'm good at rolling. Falling straight down scares the shit out of me though. Broken my collarbone twice trying to catch myself haha

 

[KCbus]

Give me a break.

The guy got cross-checked from behind and knocked off his feet. To think that he would be in complete control of his body after that is ludicrous. To think that there would even be enough time for him to THINK about deliberately dropping a knee on someone is a reach, let alone enough time to execute such thought.

 

[YMCMBYOLO]

I don't care about either team one way or the other (if anything I think Leafs fandom is a little too loud and often boastful for my liking so I'd probably be less likely to side with them on something like this) and I thought it was pretty bad.

Maybe it's not suspension worthy but at minimum I don't think Tkachuk did enough to get off. Even if we can say this wasn't some reckless act, he sits with his knees on top of Campbell without so much as moving a muscle to try to get off. If Bogosian hadn't shoved him off, we can only speculate as to how much longer he would've sat in that position like that.

I agree with everything you said, but of a scummy play; that’s Tkachuk for ya. Still not suspension worthy. The Leafs apparently allowed it too with their lack of response.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

I don't care about either team one way or the other (if anything I think Leafs fandom is a little too loud and often boastful for my liking so I'd probably be less likely to side with them on something like this) and I thought it was pretty bad.

Maybe it's not suspension worthy but at minimum I don't think Tkachuk did enough to get off. Even if we can say this wasn't some reckless or intentional act, he sits with his knees on top of Campbell without so much as moving a muscle to try to get off. If Bogosian hadn't shoved him off, we can only speculate as to how much longer he would've sat in that position like that. Considering he didn't take any care to get Campbell out of that situation I don't think it's unreasonable to think he'd have been there another few seconds.

He didnt do enough to get off? Why does he have to do anything to get off? He should have been punted across the ice by two Leafs players, but you know, Leafs.

 

[Three On Zero]

Much like the Kesler “holding Talbots pad”. It’s an overreaction over a nothing play.

 

[A1LeafNation]

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It was a 2min penalty at worst.

 

[Hunter368]

Hard to tell from OP gif, I need to see it at normal speed before I can give any opinion.

 

[CycloneSweep]

[MOD]
He doesn't get cross checked.
There are other angles that show that. But sure "he got crossed checked"



Watch at 1 min. He doesn't get cross checked by anyone.

 

[Anglesmith]

There were other ways to land which would have been more awkward for Tkachuk and less painful for Campbell, but I don't think there is any grounds for supplemental discipline. I think the league would look for guys targetting the head on falls, but choosing to land on knees instead of on your side likely isn't going to warrant anything.

 

[leafygoods]

Give me a break.

The guy got cross-checked from behind and knocked off his feet. To think that he would be in complete control of his body after that is ludicrous. To think that there would even be enough time for him to THINK about deliberately dropping a knee on someone is a reach, let alone enough time to execute such thought.

Tell me who crosschecks him? He literally smacks Brodie in the back of the head himself.

[mod]

He definitely "had help" falling as in he lost his balance while trying to take Brodie down, not sure how his foots ends up at face level of the guys behind him and comes crashing down on Campbell's back though.. that one's a head scratcher

 

[Legion34]

I'm disappointed...I expected to see this:

Turn your phone sideways and it’s actually pretty close

 

[BlackDogg]

Very nice how he puts that little extra into it...he's a master of it. But if we can see it, why can't the league?

 

[HanSolo]

He didnt do enough to get off? Why does he have to do anything to get off? He should have been punted across the ice by two Leafs players, but you know, Leafs.

Cause he's transferring 210 pounds worth of Tkachuk into Campbell's neck through his knees and that's a potentially dangerous situation? Bogosian did eventually shove him off but to act like Tkachuk has no duty of care to others in an out of the ordinary position that he finds himself in, regardless of how he got there, is silly.

 

[KCbus]

He doesn't get cross checked.
There are other angles that show that. But sure "he got crossed checked"

Alright, alright... I was looking at the angle from behind him. The timing made it look like #65 in white wiped him out. OK, I'm wrong.

But on the other angle, it still looks like he's in a wrestling match with a Leafs player who throws him off balance. So the part about not having control of your body -- that I stand by.

 

[CycloneSweep]

There were other ways to land which would have been more awkward for Tkachuk and less painful for Campbell, but I don't think there is any grounds for supplemental discipline. I think the league would look for guys targetting the head on falls, but choosing to land on knees instead of on your side likely isn't going to warrant anything.

He could of just, fallen? Instead he lifts both of his knees up and lands knee first into him.
Go watch the link I posted.

Tkachuk unlike most players will always go the route that will hurt someone else.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Alright, alright... I was looking at the angle from behind him. The timing made it look like #65 in white wiped him out. OK, I'm wrong.

But on the other angle, it still looks like he's in a wrestling match with a Leafs player who throws him off balance. So the part about not having control of your body -- that I stand by.

Nothing Brodie did would of caused him to have both of his legs come up and drive into Campbell.

Tkachuk saw an opportunity to hurt the goalie to help win the game, and he took it.

Hell you can see him almost jump his left leg up too.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Cause he's transferring 210 pounds worth of Tkachuk into Campbell's neck through his knees and that's a potentially dangerous situation? Bogosian did eventually shove him off but to act like Tkachuk has no duty of care to others in an out of the ordinary position that he finds himself in, regardless of how he got there, is silly.

The drama. Everyone survived. Get a grip

 

[LeafsNation75]

Much like the Kesler “holding Talbots pad”. It’s an overreaction over a nothing play.

There is a major difference between Tkachuk kicking the back of Campbell's head, compared to Kesler holding onto Talbot's pad and which interfered with his ability to make a save and allowing a goal against.

 

[Mez]

How can someone not see that he intentionally forced his knee down on the goalie? I dont expect anything from DoPs but it should be a penalty and an ass kicking. Will be interesting to see if the Leafs have enough spine to respond.

Tkachuk is the new and evolved Marchand...shit disturber, dirty, takes advantage of "falls" to hide said dirty plays, and a good hockey player. He definitely seems to be sneakier than Marchand though.