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Player Discussion Matthew Poitras II

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He should start the year in Providence. Will allow him to get back into game shape and shake the rust off. It did wonders for Pasta and others. Give it a few weeks there and he’ll be back in Boston.

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I don’t disagree with your overall point, but it was a somewhat unusual situation in that they couldn’t send him to the A. It was either NHL or back to junior. Ordinarily he probably would have been in Providence for more games. And he may still benefit from playing down there for a bit. Training camp will tell the tale.
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Precisely why that damn rule needs to be fixed. He’s too good for juniors but not quite ready for full time nhl. IMO, this rule is a hindrance to players like Poitras.
 
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Alicat said:
He should start the year in Providence. Will allow him to get back into game shape and shake the rust off. It did wonders for Pasta and others. Give it a few weeks there and he’ll be back in Boston.


Precisely why that damn rule needs to be fixed. He’s too good for juniors but not quite ready for full time nhl. IMO, this rule is a hindrance to players like Poitras.
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I understand the sentiment behind the rule (I think). You don’t want to persuade a kid to leave juniors for the NHL only to then put him in the AHL when he would have rather stayed on his junior squad.

Barring anything where a player could turn professional but also still be allowed back on his junior team beyond the 9 game “tryout”, I don’t see why it can’t be up to player/agent and NHL team to have a discussion individually. If both sides are honest in their expectations up front about time in the A, why does there need to be a strict rule against being sent down?
 
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CharasLazyWrister said:
I understand the sentiment behind the rule (I think). You don’t want to persuade a kid to leave juniors for the NHL only to then put him in the AHL when he would have rather stayed on his junior squad.

Barring anything where a player could turn professional but also still be allowed back on his junior team beyond the 9 game “tryout”, I don’t see why it can’t be up to player/agent and NHL team to have a discussion individually. If both sides are honest in their expectations up front about time in the A, why does there need to be a strict rule against being sent down?
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I understand the rule and generally agree that you don’t want kids to jump ship and then get caught in a less than ideal situation. I can get behind revising the number of games from 9 to say 15-20 and then allowing for negotiations pending on the outcome of the trial period. Bottom line is that it needs some revision to align with the current state of the game.
 
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15 goals / 30 assists is my prediction for Poitras this year if he makes the team. Frederic -- Poitras -- Geekie should be a solid 3rd line that can bring a little of everything.
 

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Poitras will start as number 3 center but by the new year i see him centering Marchand on the second line. I rarely get excited about young players but he seems like the real deal to me.
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I would bet that Poitras, is in Providence before that happens.
 
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He has the 4th best offensive hockey sense out of all their forwards. (Pastrnak, Marchand, and assuming Lindholm however haven't watched him, are the others) He should be playing top 6 and PP2 at min. Put him in a position to succeed especially on a team that needs scoring help.

I predict by December, the hockey world will be groaning "where do they find these guys" again

Would love to see Lysell steal that 2RW spot though.
 
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He has the 4th best offensive hockey sense out of all their forwards. (Pastrnak, Marchand, and assuming Lindholm however haven't watched him, are the others) He should be playing top 6 and PP2 at min. Put him in a position to succeed especially on a team that needs scoring help.

I predict by December, the hockey world will be groaning "where do they find these guys" again

Would love to see Lysell steal that 2RW spot though.
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This is exactly it. For some odd reason, a lot of fans think the forward group is better than they are, or that they can afford to let Poitras play in the minors.

The forwards lack a serious element of skill in their top nine. Lindholm addresses a portion of it but it's really not enough especially with the loss of Debrusk and Heinen.

Poitras was 2nd on the team in 5v5 CORSI among regular forwards after Pastrnak and ahead of Marchand. It would just be dumb to keep a player like him in the minors.

Lysell isn't too far behind either. He obviously has much more to prove but if they can give Steen 30 something games last year with his 1 goal then they can give their 1st round pick a chance
 
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I don't like the idea of Poitras at wing. He's a playmaker, give him two wings to pass to and let him open up the ice. Size and aggression wise Frederic makes more sense at wing than Poitras.
 
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I don't like the idea of Poitras at wing. He's a playmaker, give him two wings to pass to and let him open up the ice. Size and aggression wise Frederic makes more sense at wing than Poitras.
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I remember him being really good along the boards though. My memory is not always great. I think Bergeron played some wing in his youth as well. Bruins have a lot of centres right now
 
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I remember him being really good along the boards though. My memory is not always great. I think Bergeron played some wing in his youth as well. Bruins have a lot of centres right now
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Bergy did play RW his first year
 
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Fenian24 said:
Bergy did play RW his first year
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He did, and it would not be a bad thing if Poitras does it too. I'd rather him on the big club playing this season at wing if that is the only spot he fits versus being a center in Providence.
 
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He did, and it would not be a bad thing if Poitras does it too. I'd rather him on the big club playing this season at wing if that is the only spot he fits versus being a center in Providence.
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Agree with this, I just think he can handle center if you give him Frederic on his wing. Lindholm, Coyle, X, Beecher/Kastelic. That third line C spot seems open to me.
 
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Fenian24 said:
Agree with this, I just think he can handle center if you give him Frederic on his wing. Lindholm, Coyle, X, Beecher/Kastelic. That third line C spot seems open to me.
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Here is the issue, what do you do in the playoff? Poitras may be able to be an effective 3C in the regular season, but can he help your team win the Conference Finals against the Panthers as a center, or does the team want to roll Frederic in that slot? Does it make sense to go with a regular season lineup that you will just have to change in the playoffs?

If I am GM/Coach, if Poitras improves on last season, I still put him at C even for the playoffs. But reasonable minds can differ on that point, and if the B's do not intend to play him at C in the playoffs then they may has well training him up on the wing because they probably need his skill in the lineup.
 
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