Player Discussion Matthew Poitras II

[Saxon Eric]

And we're paid to win games ,we'll talk about on Monday,is that the new wait till your Father gets home?
Where was this tough belligerent Monty last May?

 

[Hookslide]

Any else annoyed with Monty’s handling of Poitras yet?

The kid had a great camp and came out of the gate strong, but lets be honest, he is not a 15- 18 minute player right now. The skill level is there, and in time he will be a fine player. In fairness to the decision to keep him on the roster, he made it hard on the organization to make that decision with his play. Monty said it, they get paid to win. Remember another thing, the fans wanted him and I am sure that came into play in the decision. I also understand the rational that he had nothing to gain going back to junior, other than gain weight and strength. I have other issues to be annoyed at with Monty, like keeping JVR in the lineup, fans talk about toughness, and I am not talking about fighting, but one hit in the last 10 games, really.

 

[Absurdity]

And we're paid to win games ,we'll talk about on Monday,is that the new wait till your Father gets home?
Where was this tough belligerent Monty last May?

Bergeron was the coach

 

[mjhfb]

And we're paid to win games ,we'll talk about on Monday,is that the new wait till your Father gets home?
Where was this tough belligerent Monty last May?

Ask Goalie Bob.

 

[Gordoff]

I will never get on board with Monty after last years collapse, No coming back from that.

We have blown how many games with pulled goalies and without?

He keeps rolling out the same guys that have zero killer instinct that lose every battle to loose pucks in the most important time in a hockey game.

Its happened way to often since he's been the coach, Kelly as well.

His instincts for the game seem to be lacking. As they say "low hockey IQ"

 

[Gordoff]

Seems so, and honestly it's kind of odd- no one expected this team to be tops in East or the league this season with the loss of 1-2Cs and the cap constraints. It felt like the goal was to make the playoffs and that is almost surely going to happen at this point. I wonder where the pressure is coming from and why.

$$$$$ and Damn the future. Sure the cap will go up but WHO will they spend it on and who wants to play here? It's a great organization and city but, as with anywhere there are warts. Monty is one wart to speak of.

 

[Dr Hook]

$$$$$ and Damn the future. Sure the cap will go up but WHO will they spend it on and who wants to play here? It's a great organization and city but, as with anywhere there are warts. Monty is one wart to speak of.

I am not as sour on him as you are, yet. It does seem like he is getting pressured, and if its from above, I find that strange in that the team is probably exceeding expectations as they stood going into the year. If we are talking $$$$ then making the playoffs is the goal, and they are well on track to do that. If the FO doesn't like the poor showing in terms of grit, or pushback, or even starting on time, then they have to look in the mirror as they assembled the roster.

 

[The National]

$$$$$ and Damn the future. Sure the cap will go up but WHO will they spend it on and who wants to play here? It's a great organization and city but, as with anywhere there are warts. Monty is one wart to speak of.

Well those 1-2Cs likely won’t come via free agency, they rarely make it there, if they do there’s usually a reason why.

But idk I think plenty of guys would like to center Pasta or Marchy, plus a lot of guys love the original 6 stuff. Consistently good always in the mix organization, there’s a lot worse situations in the league.

 

[The National]

I am not as sour on him as you are, yet. It does seem like he is getting pressured, and if it’s from above, I find that strange in that the team is probably exceeding expectations as they stood going into the year. If we are talking $$$$ then making the playoffs is the goal, and they are well on track to do that. If the FO doesn't like the poor showing in terms of grit, or pushback, or even starting on time, then they have to look in the mirror as they assembled the roster.

I doubt there’s pressure from above. They built the team as a bridge/development year roster. Three 34-35 year old 1 year deals playing everyday roles. Three rookies on the roster. There’s no way they expected this record.

I think it’s just a coach trying to win games anyway how, just like he said, but he’s not seeing the bigger picture. This is when you get the kid comfortable and work thru the mistakes so that he’s ready when games get more important.

Which he has during periods 1-2 but when 3rd period comes around he stapled to the bench, it’s just weird.

 

[GordonHowe]

His instincts for the game seem to be lacking. As they say "low hockey IQ"

You've pegged Montgomery perfectly.

As for Mathew, his instincts for the game are excellent. He's 19. He has a lot to learn.

But the playmaking, creativity, elusiveness, scoring touch and "hockey sense" are all there.

Part of this is "load management." They don't want to overtax and exhaust Matt. "Maintenance days."

 

[GordonHowe]

Agreed, but, I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets a few scratches mixed in here or there and Geekie getting some C reps.

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[BigGoalBrad]

He should be in the box a few games kids too young for the AHL still.

Monty needs to send JVR to Providence. We’re lucky we get to play so many terrible teams and the league isn’t that strong. I think we’ll be fine now we get some decent opponents coming up but it’s weird to see us not crushing in December we’re typically unstoppable this month.

 

[MillerTime29Bombs]

Geekie is one of the many many third/FOURTH line players the Bs trot out nightly.

 

[Bruin4]

Hmmm, Maybe Monty should give Poitras a chance to have a short memory.

 

[Aussie Bruin]

I am not as sour on him as you are, yet. It does seem like he is getting pressured, and if its from above, I find that strange in that the team is probably exceeding expectations as they stood going into the year. If we are talking $$$$ then making the playoffs is the goal, and they are well on track to do that. If the FO doesn't like the poor showing in terms of grit, or pushback, or even starting on time, then they have to look in the mirror as they assembled the roster.

Good points. I feel like last year's record run may have created some unrealistic expectations, whether from management or simply in the minds of the coaches. As you say, this season's team is again well ahead of where it was expected to be - they're equal top of the league in terms of win percentage with a roster that's still decent but really doesn't scream 'best in show'. In that sense there's plenty of room for younger players to learn, make mistakes and find their feet. You always want more wins, I get that, but the team's not desperate for points. Ideally the franchise needs to be playing the long game too.

Overall the team's got some issues that need work, and they shouldn't be ignored. But the kids aren't responsible for the main problems, yet they feel singled out and kept on a leash more than anyone else. That's not right.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

How's the body language tho? Must have seen something in his eyes.

 

[sarge88]

Well those 1-2Cs likely won’t come via free agency, they rarely make it there, if they do there’s usually a reason why.

But idk I think plenty of guys would like to center Pasta or Marchy, plus a lot of guys love the original 6 stuff. Consistently good always in the mix organization, there’s a lot worse situations in the league.

It might not be a C….it might be Nylander who scores like 1C and live with Zacha as 1C and hope Poitras decelops quickly.

 

[quietbruinfan]

You've pegged Montgomery perfectly.

As for Mathew, his instincts for the game are excellent. He's 19. He has a lot to learn.

But the playmaking, creativity, elusiveness, scoring touch and "hockey sense" are all there.

Part of this is "load management." They don't want to overtax and exhaust Matt. "Maintenance days."

It may well develop, but I am not sure about the sense. He overhandles the puck almost every time....He has a bit of Coyle's problem and will not make the simple play. Monty is absolutely right to bench him.

 

[bruinsfan1968]

Good points. I feel like last year's record run may have created some unrealistic expectations, whether from management or simply in the minds of the coaches. As you say, this season's team is again well ahead of where it was expected to be - they're equal top of the league in terms of win percentage with a roster that's still decent but really doesn't scream 'best in show'. In that sense there's plenty of room for younger players to learn, make mistakes and find their feet. You always want more wins, I get that, but the team's not desperate for points. Ideally the franchise needs to be playing the long game too.

Overall the team's got some issues that need work, and they shouldn't be ignored. But the kids aren't responsible for the main problems, yet they feel singled out and kept on a leash more than anyone else. That's not right.

The coaching staff knows the players better than anyone here.
So they will do what they feel is best, regardless of what some may think.

 

[The National]

It might not be a C….it might be Nylander who scores like 1C and live with Zacha as 1C and hope Poitras decelops quickly.

Idk if I see Nylander as a Bruin haha, he’s gonna get crazy overpaid as well, I think I’d pass. Bruins fans that think Pasta is soft he would drive them crazy.

The coaching staff knows the players better than anyone here.
So they will do what they feel is best, regardless of what some may think.

Might as well close up the boards then case is closed lol

 

[Gordoff]

Idk if I see Nylander as a Bruin haha, he’s gonna get crazy overpaid as well, I think I’d pass. Bruins fans that think Pasta is soft he would drive them crazy.


Might as well close up the boards then case is closed lol

I don't think that Pasta is 'soft' at all. He goes after guys and mixes it up more than some other B's players. He makes some ill-timed turnovers but it's the nature of the beast.
Nylander on the other hand, no idea if he could ever be the prototypical Bruin player that most of us want. He'd make us more like the Leafs than anything else. If he/they were surrounded by more toughness, than I think he'd carve out a niche as a goal scorer/play maker ala Rick Middleton (who was tough btw). But IMO I think Nylander (with no added beef to the line-up) makes us softer.

 

[The National]

I don't think that Pasta is 'soft' at all. He goes after guys and mixes it up more than some other B's players. He makes some ill-timed turnovers but it's the nature of the beast.
Nylander on the other hand, no idea if he could ever be the prototypical Bruin player that most of us want. He'd make us more like the Leafs than anything else. If he/they were surrounded by more toughness, then I think he'd carve out a niche as a goal scorer/play maker ala Rick Middleton (who was tough btw). But IMO I think Nylander (with no added beef to the line-up) makes us a tad softer.

I just can’t help but think of the many clips of Nylander’s low effort away from the puck





Not sure I’d be willing to give 10-12m to him

(Sorry for going off topic)

 

[Aussie Bruin]

It may well develop, but I am not sure about the sense. He overhandles the puck almost every time....He has a bit of Coyle's problem and will not make the simple play. Monty is absolutely right to bench him.

Poitras' not Coyle, he's much closer to Krejci. He's a high-end playmaker who wants to hold the puck and make clever/fancy passes and moves. That's his natural game and skill set and he should be encouraged in continuing to play that way. It's a balancing act - as a young, inexperienced player sometimes yeah he'll need to rein his instincts in and make the sensible, simple plays. Sometimes the coach will need to make that clear to him. But if you do it too often then there's a risk that you stifle and even damage a player's development and confidence, and that of course is to be avoided.

So I don't want Poitras being constrained too much. I want him to aim high and look to use his smarts and talent as much as reasonably possible. As long as he can do that with moderation and while keeping his situational awareness, I'll accept a few mistakes along the way.

 

[GordonHowe]

It may well develop, but I am not sure about the sense. He overhandles the puck almost every time....He has a bit of Coyle's problem and will not make the simple play. Monty is absolutely right to bench him.

I don't particularly have a problem with the benching. I think patience is a virtue in terms of his development. Patience from all involved.

Giveh the kid a break. He's nineteen years old.

 

[quietbruinfan]

I don't particularly have a problem with the benching. I think patience is a virtue in terms of his development. Patience from all involved.

Giveh the kid a break. He's nineteen years old.

Just telling you what I see. Most top playmaking centers have better sense, even at this young age.