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MattMartin said:
The moronic hot takes on the 1st 2 pages look so cringe worthy now.
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I enjoyed mine, it was the tune of Dave Portnoy pizza review. "Frankie I don't hate it, 7.6!"

I was pretty on the nose for supporting Lou's moves. In the past I was a huge critic of having Quine and Prince replace guys like Zeeker and Clutterbuck because the roles didn't match. We had the wrong guys in the bottom 6 and fast forward to today we have the right mix and they are effective.
 
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Costigan77 said:
What is funny is that everyone that bashed this, are the same who bashed Lou on his thread when he stood pat at the deadline.

Love the fly off the handle mentality by few
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I keep thinking about how we were seemingly “Better off with Chimera!” after Martin left.

I was on the fence about that one. I liked Chimera’s shorter term, speed and goal scoring.

But after seeing him first hand, you also saw the slow decision, poor positioning and acceleration relative to his overall speed. Nullifying a lot of the benefit of his speed.

Anyway, seeing the way the cap/costs are rising along with the dynamic impact all three of them have as a line... I can’t see any valid argument that they are overpaid.

This is a fourth line in NAME only! But when it comes to results, this is one of the better lines in the NHL on one of the better teams in the NHL.
 
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... I realize that as fans, it’s our job to question moves made by the powers that be with our respective franchises. That said, it’s always astonished me how easily people can assume they know as much or more as people who not only can make a living doing this but are in the Hall of Fame doing it. I’ve never been comfortable with that.

I might not have agreed with everything LL did last summer, but I certainly wasn’t arrogant enough to assume I knew better than he did. As a matter of fact, I assumed he’s forgotten more about hockey than I’ll ever know and I trust his vision more than I trust my own.…
 
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Costigan77 said:
What is funny is that everyone that bashed this, are the same who bashed Lou on his thread when he stood pat at the deadline.

Love the fly off the handle mentality by few
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I've said it here several times before. I never bashed Lou for the other signings but I didn't see the need to get Martin back. We had Ross Johnston who didn't play badly while he was up. Cheaper contract too. But there's something about what 17 brings to the lineup that can't be quantified. He's a different player here. Makes that 4th line better than the sum of it's parts. I'm gladly eating crow for it.
 
Lou probably should have had the Leafs retain salary on Martin this year. However his contract was front loaded so after this year I think his average deal is around $1.8 per. That's a very fair deal for what Martin brings.
 
RWWallpaper said:
... I realize that as fans, it’s our job to question moves made by the powers that be with our respective franchises. That said, it’s always astonished me how easily people can assume they know as much or more as people who not only can make a living doing this but are in the Hall of Fame doing it. I’ve never been comfortable with that.

I might not have agreed with everything LL did last summer, but I certainly wasn’t arrogant enough to assume I knew better than he did. As a matter of fact, I assumed he’s forgotten more about hockey than I’ll ever know and I trust his vision more than I trust my own.…
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In all fairness, 50% Of this board probably would have run Edmonton better than chia. I mean, a 1st and 2nd
For Gryffindor? Jesus chia.
 
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Sorge Georos said:
They were an overrated sideshow to begin with. A lot of worthless hits to make fans think they were "lunchpail guys" but not actually winning players. Maybe Clutterbuck at his best was a decent 4th liner and that's it.
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One of the worst of the takes was this. f***ing brutal.
 
MJF said:
I've said it here several times before. I never bashed Lou for the other signings but I didn't see the need to get Martin back. We had Ross Johnston who didn't play badly while he was up. Cheaper contract too. But there's something about what 17 brings to the lineup that can't be quantified. He's a different player here. Makes that 4th line better than the sum of it's parts. I'm gladly eating crow for it.
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This is exactly how I felt.
I'm not disappointed with Lou for bringing MM back, considering it cost nothing, I just assumed Ross was going to fill that spot.

Having said that, and I said this before, when Martins contract ends, he won't be re-signed...
 
I think he'll be re-signed. If Clutterbuck is our Maltby and Cizikas is our Draper, then Martin is our McCarty.
 
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Bronson said:
I think he'll be re-signed. If Clutterbuck is our Maltby and Cizikas is our Draper, then Martin is our McCarty.
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The reasons I don't think Lou will re-sign him are...

A) He's getting slower and producing less impactful hits.
B) He's not much of a fighter anymore.

McCarty was a different beast.

I'm not shitting on the guy, he is an Islander legend and is currently useful, but his time is running out...
 
Le Grec said:
The reasons I don't think Lou will re-sign him are...

A) He's getting slower and producing less impactful hits.
B) He's not much of a fighter anymore.

McCarty was a different beast.

I'm not ****ting on the guy, he is an Islander legend and is currently useful, but his time is running out...
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If only you understood the League as well as the Marts he adjusted to the league.

A) He has not gotten slower(Try a new eye test) ....Producing less impactful Hits?..tell the Pittsburg Penguins that after he Laid 33 IMPACTFUL hits on them in a 4 game series...Decimating their defence into not wanting the puck or giving it away(Lets not forget regular season 4.1 hits per made him #2 in the league. His reputation as a devastating checker precedes him, most would rather just give up the disk that be hit by Matty Marts..If anything he went from 95 % clean hits to 99.9%. that likely what your eye test is seeing. He has on ice presence...few have it. Do you not see his mates have done so much better than the past 2 years. Do you believe Ciz scores 20 without #17..Clutterbucks renewed hitting and nastiness.....This is all directly related to #17.

B) You say he is not much of a fighter anymore?....You do realize fighting is way down...you do realize he has fought everyone in the league that needed fighting, many multiple times..many larger than himself.. you should realize most don't want to fight him....ask yourself who has Ross fought..ask yourself again who?..Not a single name of consequence not one..not a knock against Ross..but #17 he isn't..

So to summarize..The only thing you are right about is McCarty was a different beast..his drinking and drug use were well known.....so one out of three ain't bad.

Resigning Matt Martin should and would be high on the list of things to do......it isn't by accident this team didn't make the playoffs the 2 seasons he was absent....Then again with all the Babcock leaving talk i am sure Marts would be a key component to a cup with the coaching change...time will tell.

What Lou will do.. Lou will do...But the NYI are not the same team without Matty Marts.... #17 is a Islander legend thats for sure i can agree with you there...even with all his great Islander moments i cannot help thinking there are many more to come.
 
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Joedoggy said:
If only you understood the League as well as the Marts

A) He has not gotten slower(Try a new eye test) ....Producing less impactful Hits?..tell the Pittsburg Penguins that after he Laid 33 IMPACTFUL hits on them in a 4 game series...Decimating their defence into not wanting the puck or giving it away(Lets not forget regular season 4.1 hits per made him #2 in the league. His reputation as a devastating checker precedes him, most would rather just give up the disk that be hit by Matty Marts...If anything he went from 95 % clean hits to 99.9%. that likely what your eye test is seeing.

B) You say he is not much of a fighter anymore?....You do realize fighting is way down...you do realize he has fought everyone in the league that needed fighting, many multiple times..many larger than himself..ask yourself who has Ross fought..ask yourself again who?..Not a single name of consequence not one.

So to summarize..The only thing you are right about is McCarty was a different beast..his drinking and drug use were well known.....so one out of three ain't bad.

Resigning Matt Martin should and would be high on the list of things to do......it isn't by accident this team didn't make the playoffs the 2 seasons he was absent....Then again with all the Babcock leaving talk i am sure Marts would be a key component to a cup with the coaching change...time will tell.

What Lou will do.. Lou will do...But the NYI are not the same team without Matty Marts.
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I can see him signing another short deal followed by yearly one year deals... until he finally hits the end of his playing days.

He’ll always have a place on LI though.
 
CupHolders said:
I can see him signing another short deal followed by yearly one year deals... until he finally hits the end of his playing days.

He’ll always have a place on LI though.
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I think you nailed it. Long Island will always a a piece of his heart. And Lou seems to have a soft spot for him. I can see him going on to work for the Isles in some capacity when he hangs it all up. But we are still a ways away from that.

 
CupHolders said:
I can see him signing another short deal followed by yearly one year deals... until he finally hits the end of his playing days.

He’ll always have a place on LI though.
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We are still a year away from having to make any decisions but it will certainly be interesting to see what happens after this year. At that point, we will be starting to get up against the cap (depending on how this off season goes), and there may not be a spot for a 30 year old Matt Martin. Of course, that's what we thought a couple of years ago and look at what happened this year. But we'll have Ross Johnston on year 3 of his deal looking for ice time and we'll have Uncle Leo who will also be in year 3 of his deal primed for 4th line duties.

You want to have a spot for Matt Martin on this team - he's the heart and soul of this club but it remains to be seen if there is one. He could easily be the next Dennis Seidenberg, just hanging around the team as a quasi-coach, but I doubt he's ready for that role. He still has some hockey left in him (at least he will certainly think so), and he hasn't really cashed in like some others have as far as contracts go. He's done ok, but before this 4 year deal he signed with Toronto, he had a $1m AAV deal over 4 years - if he signed at a different time he probably could have gotten more.

Still a long ways away.
 
For the record, I would extend him next year to 2 more years, at 2.5M if the line is effective. Clutterbuck and Cizikas have 2-3 years left on their deals. There is just something about having all 3 of these guys on one line that makes them all better. It's uncanny the chemistry they have. The sum is better than the parts. It's impossible to ignore.
 
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Joedoggy said:
If only you understood the League as well as the Marts he adjusted to the league.

A) He has not gotten slower(Try a new eye test) ....Producing less impactful Hits?..tell the Pittsburg Penguins that after he Laid 33 IMPACTFUL hits on them in a 4 game series...Decimating their defence into not wanting the puck or giving it away(Lets not forget regular season 4.1 hits per made him #2 in the league. His reputation as a devastating checker precedes him, most would rather just give up the disk that be hit by Matty Marts..If anything he went from 95 % clean hits to 99.9%. that likely what your eye test is seeing. He has on ice presence...few have it. Do you not see his mates have done so much better than the past 2 years. Do you believe Ciz scores 20 without #17..Clutterbucks renewed hitting and nastiness.....This is all directly related to #17.

B) You say he is not much of a fighter anymore?....You do realize fighting is way down...you do realize he has fought everyone in the league that needed fighting, many multiple times..many larger than himself.. you should realize most don't want to fight him....ask yourself who has Ross fought..ask yourself again who?..Not a single name of consequence not one..not a knock against Ross..but #17 he isn't..

So to summarize..The only thing you are right about is McCarty was a different beast..his drinking and drug use were well known.....so one out of three ain't bad.

Resigning Matt Martin should and would be high on the list of things to do......it isn't by accident this team didn't make the playoffs the 2 seasons he was absent....Then again with all the Babcock leaving talk i am sure Marts would be a key component to a cup with the coaching change...time will tell.

What Lou will do.. Lou will do...But the NYI are not the same team without Matty Marts.... #17 is a Islander legend thats for sure i can agree with you there...even with all his great Islander moments i cannot help thinking there are many more to come.
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I would have given a detailed response, but unfortunately you are being a condescending :eek::eek::eek::eek:...
 
The Winter Soldier said:
I think you nailed it. Long Island will always a a piece of his heart. And Lou seems to have a soft spot for him. I can see him going on to work for the Isles in some capacity when he hangs it all up. But we are still a ways away from that.

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So Matt was listening to updates on the Isles on his way to work in Toronto?
LOL!!
 
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