Player Discussion Mason McTavish

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I think the narrative of him dishing the puck to Terry for the hat trick is silly.

He’s trying to win the game and felt it was the best play, not for individual stats. Empty nets are a different story.

Why is it silly? Mac could have scored on the EN instead of Vatrano, but also screamed at Vatrano to just shoot the EN himself instead of passing it off. Mac has scored on a 2-on-1 before in that similar situation, see his WJC-18's scouting video. The easier play was to shoot the puck instead of doing a cross-ice pass with a defender between them.

Mac not accepting the jacket and identifying Carrick is another example how cerebral and conscientious he is.

So many people doubted in Mac before we drafted him and didn't believe in all the skills he possessed back then. But now you call it a narrative when you didn't believe back then. That's rich.
 

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Why is it silly? Mac could have scored on the EN instead of Vatrano, but also screamed at Vatrano to just shoot the EN himself instead of passing it off. Mac has scored on a 2-on-1 before in that similar situation, see his WJC-18's scouting video. The easier play was to shoot the puck instead of doing a cross-ice pass with a defender between them.

Mac not accepting the jacket and identifying Carrick is another example how cerebral and conscientious he is.

So many people doubted in Mac before we drafted him and didn't believe in all the skills he possessed back then. But now you call it a narrative when you didn't believe back then. That's rich.
Like I said, empty nets are a different story to pass off the puck for a hat trick. You already have the lead and you aren’t lowering your chances for the win by passing.

In OT you’re not thinking about getting a guy the hat trick, you’re thinking about the best play to win the game. If you’re thinking about getting your teammate a hat trick in OT instead of making the best play to win the game you’re an idiot.
 

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Can somebody please explain all the patches on the hunting jacket? And where did the idea of a hunting jacket come from? TIA.
There's one for every country someone on the team comes from and some generic "Competitor" and "Commander" patches that are fairly self-explanatory

The crabs I have no idea if this is accurate but a Google search says they can be symbolic of rebirth, victory, resiliency, and toughness which would make sense given the current state of the team coming off of last year's shit show.

The hunting jacket as DuckDuckGetz said is just part of that "Duck Hunt" mentality

It also says Smashmouth on the back which I'm assuming is alluding to their hit classic All Star
 

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In OT you’re not thinking about getting a guy the hat trick, you’re thinking about the best play to win the game. If you’re thinking about getting your teammate a hat trick in OT instead of making the best play to win the game you’re an idiot.

You may not think it, but making the pass to Terry with a defender between them was not the higher percentage play when taking into consideration it's Mac with the puck. Out of all of our forwards, Mac can beat goalies at that range b/c he's done so several times before.

It surprised me that Mac passed up on shooting that puck in OT. But, hey, you're the Mac expert in believing that pass was the best play.
 

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There's one for every country someone on the team comes from and some generic "Competitor" and "Commander" patches that are fairly self-explanatory

The crabs I have no idea if this is accurate but a Google search says they can be symbolic of rebirth, victory, resiliency, and toughness which would make sense given the current state of the team coming off of last year's shit show.

The hunting jacket as DuckDuckGetz said is just part of that "Duck Hunt" mentality

It also says Smashmouth on the back which I'm assuming is alluding to their hit classic All Star
Interesting because Smashmouth is a San Jose based band and their original lead singer died a month ago and SJ hockey appears to have died with him.

Meanwhile the Ducks had local OC band 'The Offspring' at the game vs Vegas.
 

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Like I said, empty nets are a different story to pass off the puck for a hat trick. You already have the lead and you aren’t lowering your chances for the win by passing.

In OT you’re not thinking about getting a guy the hat trick, you’re thinking about the best play to win the game. If you’re thinking about getting your teammate a hat trick in OT instead of making the best play to win the game you’re an idiot.
Exactly. I'm pretty confident Mac was thinking "Lets win the game and if I make this pass we can do just that" vs "I think i'll pass it to Terry so he can get a hat trick." Empty net? Sure try and get a guy a hat trick but in OT? Making a pass to get a guy a hat trick is a stretch IMO.
 
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You may not think it, but making the pass to Terry with a defender between them was not the higher percentage play when taking into consideration it's Mac with the puck. Out of all of our forwards, Mac can beat goalies at that range b/c he's done so several times before.

It surprised me that Mac passed up on shooting that puck in OT. But, hey, you're the Mac expert in believing that pass was the best play.
You notice the goalie thought that also and that’s why he didn’t get over in time? I can’t even believe I’m arguing this.

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On a 2 on 1 the d-man is supposed to take the middle, prevent the pass and any cutting to the middle, and let the goalie take the shooter. You see how far the d-man is cheating over right there leaving Terry wide ass open? You see how the goalie is at the top of the crease cutting down the angle meaning that he’s going to have to move even further laterally to the left to make a save on a shot from Terry? They both thought he was going to shoot which is why they cheated so far over.

As a LH shot, it’s way easier to make this pass with zip on the forehand than try and shoot at a goalie that has the angle covered. If he’s a RH shot, chances are he probably shoots it as he’s got a better angle with the puck coming from a few feet over to the right. In this situation, he makes this pass 9 times out of 10, regardless of whether Terry has 0 goals in the last 5 games or 5 in that game.
 

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If, hypothetically, McTavish indeed decided to go with a lower percentage play in OT because he knew Terry could get a hat trick out if it, that would not be an argument in McTavish's favor in any way. Especially not in terms of his qualifications for captain. Your captain needs to be cognizant of what's best for the team as a whole, not any individual player's stat line.
(I don't think he did, I'm just saying even if he did that's not actually a good thing.)
 
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His 43 points last year came on a historic bad Ducks team so maybe if they hadn't been so bad he'd have gotten 60 points on a very good team ?

Matthew Beniers had 57 points last year on a very good Seattle. Now Beniers isn't having the same success as last year and he's playing a whole minute more per game than McTavish.
McTavish has leapfrogged him in Faceoff win% at 57.7% this year.
 

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